Bdu's are  very easy to fit into if you dont mind a bit of a military look.    They are very comfy too.   Now that im building up some hips and ass they still fit great.   they also have  variable waist sizes that aren't noticeable.   I still kinda wear these even though my butt/hips have gotten much bigger.

I always go for slim or skinny fit chinos or jeans and then pull them down and sag them at my hips. If you sag them at your hips and wear you shirt down over your hips, your hips should almost disappear. I've found tighter jeans + sagging is the only method that establishes a nice, masculine line down from my hips to my to my ankles. My initial strategy, like most guys, was "baggier is better," but I honestly think getting a tighter, more tailored fit is the way to go. Much more effective at passing in my experience and a bit more fashionable as well.

As for specifics: I get my pants mostly from H&M. I'm a 31 waist there. Products are good, stylish and (most importantly) cheap- cheaper than Target, in fact.

I've had the best luck with slim fit jeans too. Loose fits just seem to make my legs/hips/butt look bigger, especially because I have enough hips and butt that I have to buy the jeans big enough to fit them, which makes them too baggy lower on my legs. Overall loose fits make me look poorly dressed, shorter, and younger. So instead I get slim fit jeans with a waist measurement an inch or two bigger than I would otherwise, and they fit me in the hips and butt and are just a little bit loose on my lower legs. It works best with jeans that are a little stretchy too. I try to avoid cuffing my jeans most of the time, because I think it makes my legs look a little shorter.

My favorite thus far has been uniqlo jeans--stretchy, super comfortable, I can get a pretty good fit, and not crazy expensive. If you go to the stores in person, they can do hemming for free to whatever length you like. I'm not sure if you can get things hemmed if you order online, but if you can then I would strongly recommend it.

wait, I have to learn sewing??? this is one of those skills I boycotted because it was a "girl" thing and I suck at it. Lol.

so I wore one of the pairs of pants I got to therapy today. it felt great, they are pretty long though.

Quote from: radsi on March 17, 2014, 11:24:53 PM
Post it! Am sure u look ace dude n we all wanna see

I see a friend on friday. maybe I will ask him to take a picture. maybe.

Though as with lots of other things there is nothing inherently feminine about sewing, not that I can do it or anything. It's a "gendered activity". I actually know cis guys that like sewing.

--Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on March 20, 2014, 01:23:51 AM
Though as with lots of other things there is nothing inherently feminine about sewing, not that I can do it or anything. It's a "gendered activity". I actually know cis guys that like sewing.

--Jay

Well, I do know that. It's just one of those things that I was pushed into learning as a kid because I was a "girl" and that resentment has stuck with me. Not to mention I totally suck at it.

I'm not a fan of sewing for fun or for arty purposes, but I do find it very satisfying to fix/improve something, and sewing can achieve that. I suppose that's a "male" way of viewing hemming your trousers as stereotypically men are the ones who fix things.

Yeah, it was my dad who taught me (and my cis brother) how to sew buttons and patch holes. I'm not positive where my dad learned, but he always treated it as a basic life skill, like doing your own laundry. And even if you can't escape the idea that it's feminine, you can at least remember that bachelor life skills save you a lot of money.

Where I went to school everyone had to learn to sew - boys and girls alike. It's really useful being able to alter clothes to fit better, or make ones that fit right in the first place. It also saves you money as you don't wear out the bottoms of your pants as quickly if you don't keep standing on them and if a seam comes apart you can just sew it back together rather than having to throw the item away.

Cis men have the same problem with the legs being long too - I always have to take up my husband's pants right after he buys them. I think they just make the legs super long so that they fit the tallest people. Short people can always take them up but it's not like tall people can add length.

l'll take all your hips, please ship UPS & I'll pay all the fees.

actually I can sew on a button or fix a hole. my hole/tear fix won't look pretty but it will work. sewing the hem of pants is beyond me. some of my resistence to sewing is probably coming from the fact I have poor small motor skills. As an adult, I'm not that much worse than the average adult. But as a kid I was significantly behind my peers in being able to do things.

Quote from: Nikotinic on March 20, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
Where I went to school everyone had to learn to sew - boys and girls alike. It's really useful being able to alter clothes to fit better, or make ones that fit right in the first place. It also saves you money as you don't wear out the bottoms of your pants as quickly if you don't keep standing on them and if a seam comes apart you can just sew it back together rather than having to throw the item away.

Cis men have the same problem with the legs being long too - I always have to take up my husband's pants right after he buys them. I think they just make the legs super long so that they fit the tallest people. Short people can always take them up but it's not like tall people can add length.

will you hem the bottom of my pants??

Quote from: FrancisAnn on March 20, 2014, 07:01:35 PM
l'll take all your hips, please ship UPS & I'll pay all the fees.

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ok, I keep trying to stuff them in a box but they are unruly and keep popping back out.

Basically fold the pants up how much you want them. Cut the excess off but leave a little bit for the sewing machine to catch. Sew a line around the leg hole to make the nice bottom.

If you really don't want to sew there are hemming strips you can buy, you just pop them where you want the hem, fold up the fabric on to them and then run an iron over it. Wala, instant hem....though they can come off in the wash sometimes, so you have to do it again.

Quote from: tomboy on March 20, 2014, 09:56:19 PM
actually I can sew on a button or fix a hole. my hole/tear fix won't look pretty but it will work. sewing the hem of pants is beyond me. some of my resistence to sewing is probably coming from the fact I have poor small motor skills. As an adult, I'm not that much worse than the average adult. But as a kid I was significantly behind my peers in being able to do things.

will you hem the bottom of my pants??
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ok, I keep trying to stuff them in a box but they are unruly and keep popping back out.

Thanks friend. I wish you the best & it would sure be nice perhaps if both of us could exchange not only some hips but other parts. Please have a very nice Friday.

Thank you FrancisAnn.   

Ok, two things I don't own - an iron and a sewing machine. Although the hemming strips idea kind of interests me. they are cheap so i'd just have to get my hands on an iron... would it be bad if I just ironed on my kitchen counter?

Ah yeah that would be bad. You can iron on a big thick towel I think. You just want to make sure the underneath doesn't get too hot, so move around a bit.

Definitely get an iron - if you're going to wear shirts you need one. before I had an ironing board I would put a folded up sheet on the table/bench and iron on that. If you do it directly on the bench it won't work as well and you might melt/burn something.

The hemming tape works pretty well, definitely easier than sewing, though it does come apart sometimes.

Quote from: tomboy on March 21, 2014, 11:51:31 AM
Thank you FrancisAnn.   

Ok, two things I don't own - an iron and a sewing machine. Although the hemming strips idea kind of interests me. they are cheap so i'd just have to get my hands on an iron... would it be bad if I just ironed on my kitchen counter?

I'll buy you a nice iron with a new ironing board & a nice little Singer sewing machine for some of your hips. Mine will just not fill out, Ugggg.
Sewing is fun. I've made several dresses long ago. My mother taught me, she loved to sew & make some clothes.

Have fun.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on March 22, 2014, 07:09:32 PM
I'll buy you a nice iron with a new ironing board & a nice little Singer sewing machine for some of your hips. Mine will just not fill out, Ugggg.
Sewing is fun. I've made several dresses long ago. My mother taught me, she loved to sew & make some clothes.

Have fun.

I love sewing with my mom.  She's so good at it - even though she says she isn't.  =]

Quote from: Dante on March 18, 2014, 12:53:14 AM
A few tips--
- For jeans, get ones with 2% elastic material.
-If you're buying new jeans, you can stretch them out a bit, so it's okay if they're a little small.
-If you find a brand you like that has numbered/named styles that they keep around for a long time, it's easy to come back and buy the same pair without having to worry too much. For example, I like the Levi 514's. I just go and find that style, find my size, and I'm pretty much good to go.
-Learn some basic sewing. Hemming pants is pretty easy, and it should only take about 30 mins to do one pair if you get just a little bit of practice.

Good luck!

Hmm I'd have thought elastic-y jeans would only tend to cling to and thus accentuate curves more? 

I haven't owned jeans in probably over 10 years though... so what do I know.  I do agree about the consistant styles/sizes I love my Carhartt duck dungarees! Thick and heavy =]  Just got some lighter weight carhartt dungarees for summer though - same style different fabric.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on March 22, 2014, 07:09:32 PM
I'll buy you a nice iron with a new ironing board & a nice little Singer sewing machine for some of your hips. Mine will just not fill out, Ugggg.
Sewing is fun. I've made several dresses long ago. My mother taught me, she loved to sew & make some clothes.

Have fun.

I keep trying to stick them in a box to mail to you and they just keep sticking to me!! stupid hips.

Quote from: Nikotinic on March 22, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
Definitely get an iron - if you're going to wear shirts you need one. before I had an ironing board I would put a folded up sheet on the table/bench and iron on that. If you do it directly on the bench it won't work as well and you might melt/burn something.

The hemming tape works pretty well, definitely easier than sewing, though it does come apart sometimes.

but.. but... I wear shirts all the time and I've never ironed them.   I gave up on ironing years ago because I seemed to iron in wrinkles.

ok, I bought an iron and some of that hem stuff. next challenge is to not totally screw up the pants when I cut them. Wait!!!!! I have a plan. Because I'm bound to screw this up. FrancisAnn come here in person and take care of my hems and then I'll finally be able to give you my hipsc