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Clocking: Do mtf feel more vulnerable and insecure in summer than in winter?

Started by Evolving Beauty, March 13, 2014, 02:52:11 PM

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KatelynRain

I do feel much more insecure in the summer.  My body shape is a dead giveaway.   I can conceal my bodyshape with trench coats and jackets in the winter, but I can't do that in the summer. 
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Jenna Marie

I had a whole collection of gorgeous camis that I loved... and this past summer, I just couldn't wear them out without something over it anymore. No pushup bra needed; my breasts are already too big to wear them. It's a shame. I miss those things. (Still kept them as undershirts or at-home tops, but it's not the same.)
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Marieee

I'll just put it this way. If I 'am getting clocked, I don't care. It's the summer, I'am outside in the warm weather having fun.

Some of you brought up being self conscious makes you less passable. So when it gets warmer just focus on the season and live it. It's just something you look forward to half the year where I live, so I don't take warm weather for granted. Lol and if some peeps want to clock me, whatevs. I'am too busy enjoying the summer too care. ;D
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Allyda

Quote from: Marieee on March 21, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
I'll just put it this way. If I 'am getting clocked, I don't care. It's the summer, I'am outside in the warm weather having fun.

Some of you brought up being self conscious makes you less passable. So when it gets warmer just focus on the season and live it. It's just something you look forward to half the year where I live, so I don't take warm weather for granted. Lol and if some peeps want to clock me, whatevs. I'am too busy enjoying the summer too care. ;D
Very very veeeerry well said. Live your life as who you are and have fun this summer girls. Most of you know how to dress to show off your more feminine areas. This distracts the goo goo eyes from the not so femine ones, lol! :laugh: ;)
Allyda
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WFane

Very well said, Marieee!
I know what I look like, and I'd only be lying to myself if I thought I wasn't being clocked regularly. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna go through the rest of my life hating parts of me.
~Alyssa
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Nero

Quote from: Dahlia on March 14, 2014, 06:00:09 AM
Quote from: KelsieJ on March 13, 2014, 08:45:43 PM
I just confuse people. Dressed in boy clothes, I often get referred to as a lady while out with my SO.......dressed up in my finest, I often feel that I'm being gendered in the opposite direction. Every laugh or snicker I hear, is aimed at me.
This is how it works for a MTF; being on hormones (for a long time) will emphasise your (newly) gained feminine traits by just wearing men's or androgyne clothes etc.

Whereas wearing your 'finest' feminine clothes etc will emphasise your masculine traits, which you're stuck with for life, such as a big head, a thick neck, broad shoulders, a big trunk, no waist, narrow hips, too thin, scragly = masculine legs, etcetc.

Dressing simply works the other way around for MTF....dress masculine or androgynously and you'll be read as female.
Dress very feminine and you'll be read as (a former) male.

It probably depends a lot on the cut of the clothes. Most clothes are designed with a small woman in mind, and just expanded for the bigger sizes. So even many cis women look awkward in them. I looked pretty awkward in female cut shirts and (this doesn't have anything to do with the cut,) but skirts - I looked really awful with my huge muscular tree trunk legs. There's this pic at my sister's graduation... Ugh. Really awkward. But I think feminine stuff can still be pulled off, you just have to find stuff that flatters.

But also there's the fact that most women don't really seem to dress all that feminine most of the time. (Course that depends where you live.) Add that to the fact feminine clothes are designed to get attention, and you get scrutinized a lot more.
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sad panda

Quote from: FA on March 22, 2014, 10:47:42 AM
This is how it works for a MTF; being on hormones (for a long time) will emphasise your (newly) gained feminine traits by just wearing men's or androgyne clothes etc.

Whereas wearing your 'finest' feminine clothes etc will emphasise your masculine traits, which you're stuck with for life, such as a big head, a thick neck, broad shoulders, a big trunk, no waist, narrow hips, too thin, scragly = masculine legs, etcetc.

Dressing simply works the other way around for MTF....dress masculine or androgynously and you'll be read as female.
Dress very feminine and you'll be read as (a former) male.


It probably depends a lot on the cut of the clothes. Most clothes are designed with a small woman in mind, and just expanded for the bigger sizes. So even many cis women look awkward in them. I looked pretty awkward in female cut shirts and (this doesn't have anything to do with the cut,) but skirts - I looked really awful with my huge muscular tree trunk legs. There's this pic at my sister's graduation... Ugh. Really awkward. But I think feminine stuff can still be pulled off, you just have to find stuff that flatters.

But also there's the fact that most women don't really seem to dress all that feminine most of the time. (Course that depends where you live.) Add that to the fact feminine clothes are designed to get attention, and you get scrutinized a lot more.

Yeah I agree ... what Dahlia said just depends on the person, I think MTfs can dress femininely but they may not have  had the experiences to learn about dressing for their figure yet. But every body can be emphasized tastefully in the right way to look feminine.. it's just kind of like being a curvier girl.
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barbie

I enjoy both summer and winter, but I prefer summer, because I can expose my body as much as possible. A problem is that some people here do not like too much exposure of body, regardless of gender. Even nowadays, I wear miniskirt with thigh-high socks, but a few already commented that longer skirts would look better.

My only vulnerable trait is my low voice, but nowadays people do not seem to care about my voice or even about my gender.

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Sarah Anne

I don't mind either season...but I couldn't wait for my first winter since going full time. For me, it was more about style than it was showing a figure. Getting to wear Uggy boots, leggings, cowl neck sweaters, long skirts with boots, fuzzy mittens, colorful Columbian coats...omg! I didn't care what it hid or showed....the point was that I could now wear all these great things. Winter used to be jeans and sneakers....day after day after day...all winter! But getting all warm and bundled up as a female was simply incredible! And still is for that matter! Sadly, it did cause me to store up some extra winter fat that needs to leave before summer arrives! LOL!
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llerret

Yeah my major problem is how toned my arms are. I get asked if I body build. So embarrassing. So I can't wear sleeveless or strap anything. It makes summer shopping a bit of a pain
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BunnyBee

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KelsieJ

Quote from: sad panda on March 22, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
Yeah I agree ... what Dahlia said just depends on the person, I think MTfs can dress femininely but they may not have  had the experiences to learn about dressing for their figure yet. But every body can be emphasized tastefully in the right way to look feminine.. it's just kind of like being a curvier girl.

It actually makes a lot of sense........ I'm very lucky that I have female bone structure below the neck - i don't have blocky shoulders, I actually have more of a defined waist than my cisgender SO and my feet are in the cisgender female size range and my hands are the same size as hers. My problem is that I'm just overall too bulky at 5'10..... I've gained 40lb through transitioning and giving up smoking. I'm finally starting to lose it but it's been a real struggle and I don't know if I'll ever get back to my ideal weight :(

What I think gets me clocked is my face, but I don't see the value in FFS because it just gets you a bit closer but it can't do miracles.
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sad panda

Quote from: KelsieJ on March 25, 2014, 03:06:31 AM
It actually makes a lot of sense........ I'm very lucky that I have female bone structure below the neck - i don't have blocky shoulders, I actually have more of a defined waist than my cisgender SO and my feet are in the cisgender female size range and my hands are the same size as hers. My problem is that I'm just overall too bulky at 5'10..... I've gained 40lb through transitioning and giving up smoking. I'm finally starting to lose it but it's been a real struggle and I don't know if I'll ever get back to my ideal weight :(

What I think gets me clocked is my face, but I don't see the value in FFS because it just gets you a bit closer but it can't do miracles.

Yah or even head size (and just overall body size too) is a big cue and FFS can't fix that. I think those 2 things are the reason it was impossible for people to clock me, cuz if your head and body are the size of a cis girl even looking sorta masculine wouldn't be a deal breaker. I have a slightly masc face just not big enough to confuse anyone as a girl, just looks modellesque, unfortunately it does look weird as a boy :/
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llerret

Quote from: sad panda on March 25, 2014, 11:05:41 AM
Yah or even head size (and just overall body size too) is a big cue and FFS can't fix that. I think those 2 things are the reason it was impossible for people to clock me, cuz if your head and body are the size of a cis girl even looking sorta masculine wouldn't be a deal breaker. I have a slightly masc face just not big enough to confuse anyone as a girl, just looks modellesque, unfortunately it does look weird as a boy :/

Omg yes i resonate with this. I have such a large head and it really just makes me look terrible!!
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Just Shelly

Quote from: Sarah Anne on March 24, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
I don't mind either season...but I couldn't wait for my first winter since going full time. For me, it was more about style than it was showing a figure. Getting to wear Uggy boots, leggings, cowl neck sweaters, long skirts with boots, fuzzy mittens, colorful Columbian coats...omg! I didn't care what it hid or showed....the point was that I could now wear all these great things. Winter used to be jeans and sneakers....day after day after day...all winter! But getting all warm and bundled up as a female was simply incredible! And still is for that matter! Sadly, it did cause me to store up some extra winter fat that needs to leave before summer arrives! LOL!

OMG this is so so right!! Even though I don't like to wear all this bulky crap...at least I have fun coordinating and "trying" to be stylish!....and boots! don't get me started....I have 7 pairs but wear only 3 most times. I didn't have the money for Uggs so had to get a knock off....at least they looked good for most of the winter...they then went to sh** I would've made it all the way if winter would of been normal UGH!! it will be -2 degrees tonight...had a high of 19 today...yay!! :(

I still enjoy summer and showing off some of my figure....though after this winter it is a little more rounder :) well maybe curvy is the right word...ya sure I'll stick with that!!
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