Here's the definition for medication btw: a substance used for medical treatment, esp. a medicine or drug.

I know what you mean I wish my body produced estrogen so I didn't have to pay for it.

Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on March 25, 2014, 09:42:43 PM
I know what these words mean, but do not understand what what you are trying to convey with the way you've written them.

Exactly my point your only calling it that because you don't naturally produce a higher level of testostrone thats why taking T feels unnatural to me I don't produce a higher amount and calling it a medication makes it 10 times worse

Quote from: stephaniec on March 25, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
I know what you mean I wish my body produced estrogen so I didn't have to pay for it.

Exactly but we all produce the same hormones its just one is higher than the other.

Quote from: Brandon on March 25, 2014, 09:50:43 PM

Exactly my point your only calling it that because you don't naturally produce a higher level of testostrone thats why taking T feels unnatural to me I don't produce a higher amount and calling it a medication makes it 10 times worse

No, I'm calling it that because it is a medication, meaning it is a substance used for medical treatment.

Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on March 25, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
No, I'm calling it that because it is a medication, meaning it is a substance used for medical treatment.

Its still a hormone though thats why I don't call it a medication

People take insulin if they don't produce it. That is a hormone.

I am really sorry that you don't have testicles. I truly am. If I could grant you one wish it would be a new chromosome. It will never not suck. You will always be unable to produce your own testosterone.

But you deserve to be happy. You deserve to be you. I don't know enough about religion to know if you feel that way about yourself. If it takes hormones to do that I think you deserve them.

If you don't want t than that is fine too! You can be manly without facial hair or whatever.

Quote from: Emerson on March 25, 2014, 10:02:07 PM
People take insulin if they don't produce it. That is a hormone.

I am really sorry that you don't have testicles. I truly am. If I could grant you one wish it would be a new chromosome. It will never not suck. You will always be unable to produce your own testosterone.

But you deserve to be happy. You deserve to be you. I don't know enough about religion to know if you feel that way about yourself. If it takes hormones to do that I think you deserve them.

If you don't want t than that is fine too! You can be manly without facial hair or whatever.

Yea I get that I don't have you don't have to keep repeating that, And Yes we all produce T just not a higher amount both hormones are in us some of you need to take sex ed again, And I didn' say I don't want T, I just don't wanna take it forever it's really becoming depressing

Quote from: Brandon on March 25, 2014, 10:01:47 PM
Its still a hormone though thats why I don't call it a medication

Yes it's a hormone but it's also a medication.  All hormones are medications but not all medications are hormones. 

It really doesn't matter the classification of the hormone. Brandon how long were you considering taking "T" or is there a time frame in your mind as far as what goals you want to attain or effects you want to stop at?

Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on March 25, 2014, 09:42:43 PM
I know what these words mean, but do not understand what what you are trying to convey with the way you've written them.

A lot of the things you mentioned I once had issues with. Religion, and having to take T because I wasn't born correctly. But I had reached my breaking point and I couldn't take being in a females body any longer. So you gotta asked yourself, could your live your life in a females body forever or start T and be who you really are? I still had anxiety about T but after I started T and started to see changes man nothing felt so right in my life. Everything feels right. A lot of anxiety will go away. BUT you will probably always feel dysphoric about something. It doesn't get easier man you just get stronger. There's nothing wrong with how you feel about things but as a man it's how you deal with them. Feel free to pm me. I'm here.

Quote from: Ethedon on March 25, 2014, 10:15:14 PM
A lot of the things you mentioned I once had issues with. Religion, and having to take T because I wasn't born correctly. But I had reached my breaking point and I couldn't take being in a females body any longer. So you gotta asked yourself, could your live your life in a females body forever or start T and be who you really are? I still had anxiety about T but after I started T and started to see changes man nothing felt so right in my life. Everything feels right. A lot of anxiety will go away. BUT you will probably always feel dysphoric about something. It doesn't get easier man you just get stronger. There's nothing wrong with how you feel about things but as a man it's how you deal with them. Feel free to pm me. I'm here.

Well no I'm still planning to get T I was telling frank that I don't see it as a med and I believe hat God can heal things like diabetes, cancer ect ect even headaces Ive done it before I wasn't talking about my transition I was talking about meds in general.

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 25, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
It really doesn't matter the classification of the hormone. Brandon how long were you considering taking "T" or is there a time frame in your mind as far as what goals you want to attain or effects you want to stop at?

I honestly don't even know anymore, I just don't wanna take it for the rest of my life and then have stuff reverse on me.

Quote from: Brandon on March 25, 2014, 10:21:58 PM
I honestly don't even know anymore, I just don't wanna take it for the rest of my life and then have stuff reverse on me.

Have you talked with anyone about your concerns with taking it forever? Possibly a Therapist or Spiritual Provider?

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on March 25, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
Have you talked with anyone about your concerns with taking it forever? Possibly a Therapist or Spiritual Provider?

No, my dad is trying to find me a therapist. Can't ask my mom because I stay with her and I have no support.

I fully understand where you are coming from Brandon.  It really sucks for us.  We got dealt the short straw since birth, and having to take hormones for the rest of our lives is just one more unfortunate fact of our lives.  I'm not particularly thrilled about taking estrogen or having to dilate for the rest of my life, but sadly there's not much we can do about it yet.  Maybe in the future things will be different (they've already started having success in artificially grown sex organs that are capable of producing hormones identical to natural sex organs, but it'll still be a long way off before it's an available option), but right now they aren't.

It won't be as bad as we imagine though.  Maybe at first it'll be a headache to have to do, but if you think of it, there's plenty we do all our lives without it being burdensome, like brushing our teeth, or washing our hair.  It'll just become like those, something that doesn't bother us anymore, it's just part of our lives.  It will be fine.

Quote from: Brandon on March 25, 2014, 10:28:39 PM
No, my dad is trying to find me a therapist. Can't ask my mom because I stay with her and I have no support.

I am so glad to see he is trying. I am sure that means a lot. I hope he finds one because mine has been a blessing. They have thought of things I would never have considered on my own. Not just about transition, but things such as legal issue's, employment issue's and many other things. I was really surprised and thought all they did was listen. It is nice to get an unbiased opinion on something so important. I hope you find one soon. Feel free to PM if you ever need to.

Quote from: Colleen♡Callie on March 25, 2014, 10:36:46 PM
I fully understand where you are coming from Brandon.  It really sucks for us.  We got dealt the short straw since birth, and having to take hormones for the rest of our lives is just one more unfortunate fact of our lives.  I'm not particularly thrilled about taking estrogen or having to dilate for the rest of my life, but sadly there's not much we can do about it yet.

I don't really worry about it too much anymore. Taking E is just part of life for me. Since I had the orchi a few years back (since I could never afford GRS), I can't go back and I don't want to. I just see it all as being what it is. As I've said before, had I not initiated my transition back in 07 and had the orchi a few years later, I would be dead by now so it wouldn't matter anyway.

I just did what I had to do and that's all there is to it.

The longest lasting form of hormone administration is pellets. I think the product for people who need T is called Testopel. They last for 3-6 months depending on your body. It's a really great option, and with treatments spaced that far apart it very much feels "natural". You just forget that you are on HRT at all. Life is just... life.

In the future they might even be able to insert something that lasts years or even a lifetime. That is what I am waiting for.

If transition has taught me anything, it is to never lose hope. Everything in the world is natural if you really think about it. Our technologies are a product of human life, which is a product of mother nature herself.

So to answer your question- nope! You don't have to take t shots for the rest of your life. In fact there may come a day when you are able to completely forget about hormone therapy altogether

Quote from: Jennygirl on March 25, 2014, 11:06:20 PM
The longest lasting form of hormone administration is pellets. I think the product for people who need T is called Testopel. They last for 3-6 months depending on your body. It's a really great option, and with treatments spaced that far apart it very much feels "natural". You just forget that you are on HRT at all. Life is just... life.

Yeah, but aren't those really expensive?