if you want something badly enough... you'll do whatever it takes, no matter what the cost.

Things in life comes at a price. Not just for trans people, but for everyone. Not one persons body works in the exact same way so we just have to get over it and do what needs to be done. Fact of life.

yea, it's a downer , but I'd much rather have estrogen than not have it

Almost everyone eats packaged and processed food with chemical names that can't pronounce and thats unnatural. People are born with epilepsy and have to take medication and also pacemakers to keep them alive.   Taking testosterone once a week which takes about 15 seconds to administrate isn't much of a bump on the road and makes the person i would probably say generally over all more happy and able to live their life as they which. Its a great thing that science lets us do

Quote from: Skyler Lusk on March 26, 2014, 01:56:00 PM
Almost everyone eats packaged and processed food with chemical names that can't pronounce and thats unnatural. People are born with epilepsy and have to take medication and also pacemakers to keep them alive.   Taking testosterone once a week which takes about 15 seconds to administrate isn't much of a bump on the road and makes the person i would probably say generally over all more happy and able to live their life as they which. Its a great thing that science lets us do

I agree with this. It's important to keep in perspective how lucky we are to have things such as HRT these days. Even though it sucks to have to deal with it at all, only 100 years ago trans people didn't have these things.

Quote from: lxndr on March 26, 2014, 09:03:24 AM
You basically have several options.

1. You go on T, have a hysto, and you stay on T for the rest of your life.

2. You go on T, don't have a hysto, run the risk of atrophying, cancer, and all manner of things, but you continue to say on T.

3. You go on T then you come off it, taking the risk of some changes reversing.

4. You go on T, have a hysto, and then come off T and go on estrogen.

5. You go on T, have a hysto, you come off T and run the risk of osteoporosis.

6. You don't go on T.

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Reason for edit: Removed unhelpful 7th option that was potentially inflammatory.

There is no evidence re: no hysto and cancer. There is not enough info. There are other things that reduce the risk of osteo like exercise and Calcium (1000-1500 mg). However, a lot of guys want the hysto due to eliminating periods and the need to have your junk examined.

T does have benefits as well as risks like improving muscle development.

--Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on March 26, 2014, 02:36:04 PM
There is no evidence re: no hysto and cancer. There is not enough info. There are other things that reduce the risk of osteo like exercise and Calcium (1000-1500 mg). However, a lot of guys want the hysto due to eliminating periods and the need to have your junk examined.

T does have benefits as well as risks like improving muscle development.

--Jay

It is highly recommended here that you get a hysto though, and if you want lower surgery with a v-nectomy at least some of those parts really should be taken out as there's no longer a way to test them for cancer. You can reduce the risks of osteo, but its still increased compared to someone with sex hormones, and it often has an effect on your mood. I never said that either of those things were a certainty, only that you're running an increased risk. Just like if you smoke it's not a dead cert that you'll get cancer, your chances are just increased. And likewise some people choose to take their chances.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on March 26, 2014, 08:06:20 AM
I'm confused: if you get it, why do you see it as unnatural that you may need a little medical help to compensate for not having the 'right' parts? Like Ayden said, there's no shame in getting the shots.

I already know I don't have the right parts that needs to keep being repeated, Because thats money cming out of my pocket for something that I could have normally went through durning puberty, And I rarely take meds, I don't wanna keep poking myself with a damn needle forever, Thats why it fustrates me, Thats not normal to me no offense.

Quote from: Ryan55 on March 26, 2014, 08:44:01 AM
some cis guys have low t, so they need T supplements to help them out. If you don't want to be on it the rest of your life, that's cool then just stop when you think your ready and accept the changes that come or don't. It sucks that we don't have the right body part, but we do have the bravery and determination to be who we are. You can always just not get hrt and just do you. Its all up to you and how you want to approach it, I get that you have the mindset, I'm a full blooded male. We all feel like that, but I think sometimes you have to face reality and accept what god did give you, mistake or not, our bodies just do not make testosterone like cis guys, there is nothing wrong with that, just have to accept it. Have to accept what you have and what you can change before you can really be the real you. Guess you have to grieve over not having a penis first before you can accept it. I know that you get that you don't have the right parts, but I think you still need to accept that you don't have the right parts before you will feel completely comfortable in your body and with hormones.

I get that but again you don't have to keep telling me that, I aacept it but its still not gone stop me from being upset and dysphoric.

Quote from: av1 on March 26, 2014, 08:50:51 AM
How can God? Don't you think that if he existed we all would have been born cis in our desired bodies?
Sorry to take it off-topic

God does exist don't disrepct my religion please and don't comment if your going to.

I've been taking thyroid hormone for 30 years and will have to the rest of my life. Or I will die.
Same for T, when I start it. It's just what my body requires.
Food for thought.

I think God wants us to be happy and do everything what we can to succeed. Anything that helps us to be happy and doesn't harm anybody else can't be unnatural to me. Maybe you should try to find a way between faith and transition? I'm sure the God you believe in doesn't want you to not take your steps into happines.

Quote from: Jared on March 26, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
I think God wants us to be happy and do everything what we can to succeed. Anything that helps us to be happy and doesn't harm anybody else can't be unnatural to me. Maybe you should try to find a way between faith and transition? I'm sure the God you believe in doesn't want you to not take your steps into happines.

I'm still going to transition and serve God but when it comes to taking meds I believe God heals things like diabetes cancer,aids etc ect thats what I meant

Quote from: Brandon on March 26, 2014, 05:10:42 PM
but when it comes to taking meds I believe God heals things like diabetes cancer,aids etc ect thats what I meant

That simply isn't the case.

I've known two people with terminal cancer. They both died and that was WITH treatments. I know two people that are diabetic and are under treatments at the moment. If they go off their respective treatments they WILL die. It is a sound scientific fact. It would be wise of you to reconsider your views.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on March 26, 2014, 05:16:23 PM
That simply isn't the case.

I've known two people with terminal cancer. They both died and that was WITH treatments. I know two people that are diabetic and are under treatments at the moment. If they go off their respective treatments they WILL die. It is a sound scientific fact. It would be wise of you to reconsider your views.

Well I've seen it happen, I know my God works miracles you don't have to believe it, Prayer does change things, If you don't wanna believe it than fine I'm sorry just because you don't hav faith in God thats not my problem don't ever tell me to reconsider my views because I will not change them.

Quote from: Brandon on March 26, 2014, 05:10:42 PM
I'm still going to transition and serve God but when it comes to taking meds I believe God heals things like diabetes cancer,aids etc ect thats what I meant

I see. Of course he heals diseases and things like that, that's why he created the people who invented medications and therapys etc. 

God does heal, but not in all cases.

What medications a person takes is their own responsibility.

Can we steer away from turning this into a debate about religion, folks? There are other boards for such things.

Let's try and keep it on topic, please.

Quote from: Jared on March 26, 2014, 05:19:38 PM
I see. Of course he heals diseases and things like that, that's why he created the people who invented medications and therapys etc. 

Yes he does and sometimes without meds, I just don't like when Atheists tell me to reconsider my beliefs I've seen him work but, ill just ignore it.

Quote from: Brandon on March 26, 2014, 05:18:24 PM

Well Ive seen it happen, I know my God works miracles you don't have to believe it, Prayer does change things, If you don't wanna believe than fine.

You are free to believe as you wish. But medicine has actually saved lives. I have to ask you this question: If you end up in a situation where you fall deathly ill and there is some type of treatment that will serve your life, what are you going to do? Pray and hope things get better or are you going to turn it down and just believe that "God will work it all out"?

Quote from: Sephirah on March 26, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
Can we steer away from turning this into a debate about religion, folks? There are other boards for such things.

Let's try and keep it on topic, please.

I apologize.