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Started by dling, April 13, 2014, 07:29:55 PM

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dling

Hi everyone!

I'm considering Brassard and Suporn for SRS this year. My main concern is aesthetics. I'm from Brazil, so flying to Canada or Thailand are both the same for me.

I've only seen Brassard's results on Anne Lawrence's website, while I've only seen Dr. Suporn's results on his own webpage.

The thing is, I was pretty sure I wanted Suporn for my surgery (he's recognized as the best here), but I ran across this website (http://www.mythaisrs.com/2014/02/dr-suporn-surgery-photos.html) and I am now horrified! I know that blogger seems content with her result, but the thing is, I could never accept that. I can see "penile remains" (erectile tissue) and that really frightens me. Also, they report it is uncertain if Suporn was able to remove both testis! Huh??? How can this be??? I would like to know if this is an exception and if anyone else knows where else I can find Suporn's results as well as Brassard's?

Please let me know. Also, if there are any girls here who had surgery with Brassard, can you please tell me the depth achieved and the amount (little, medium, a lot) of material you had available?

I'm heterosexual, so I need at least 6 inches of depth (to be able to accommodate an average man without any trouble).

Thank you so much :)
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Tammy M

I have not had my surgery yet (it's scheduled for June with Brassard) but I just wanted to note that ,as far as I know, the photos on Anne Lawrenece's website are 10 years or more old.  And as far as the Suporn result photos on that blog, they only go through one month post op...
http://tammyworld2012.blogspot.com/

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dling

Quote from: Tammy M on April 13, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
I have not had my surgery yet (it's scheduled for June with Brassard) but I just wanted to note that ,as far as I know, the photos on Anne Lawrenece's website are 10 years or more old.  And as far as the Suporn result photos on that blog, they only go through one month post op...

Hi Tammy. Have you personally met him? Did he show you pictures of more recent results; do you know any other website where I could find such? I'm very curious about his work  :)

I know, but that blogger also reported that it is uncertain if Suporn removed both testis. That makes me terrified! Can you imagine the horror?  :o
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Jenna Marie

I went to Brassard; he generally tries for at least 5.5" of depth, which is exactly what I got, using what I think is "average" starting material. If you want, I can dig up an older post where I went into a lot of detail, but suffice it to say I'm absolutely happy with my results.

I'll second that the Lawrence photos are very out of date, for all surgeons.  It's a shame that it's so hard to find pictures available of current work... but I admit, I'm not comfortable posting photos of my genitalia, so I guess I'm part of the problem.

(That blogger had one testis internal or possibly absent, which is why the uncertainty. Other doctors hadn't been able to verify where or if it was in her abdomen either.)
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dling

Quote from: Jenna Marie on April 13, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
I went to Brassard; he generally tries for at least 5.5" of depth, which is exactly what I got, using what I think is "average" starting material. If you want, I can dig up an older post where I went into a lot of detail, but suffice it to say I'm absolutely happy with my results.

I'll second that the Lawrence photos are very out of date, for all surgeons.  It's a shame that it's so hard to find pictures available of current work... but I admit, I'm not comfortable posting photos of my genitalia, so I guess I'm part of the problem.

(That blogger had one testis internal or possibly absent, which is why the uncertainty. Other doctors hadn't been able to verify where or if it was in her abdomen either.)

Hi Jenna! Oh, I see. I would be very grateful if you could find any post that could help me :)

Do you think his results are much better now than those on the Lawrence website? If so, can you emphasize how, please?  ::) What about Yvon Menard, is he his partner?

Ah, I see. So I guess she is actually intersex.  ???

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Jenna Marie

Menard retired a while ago; Brassard works with a Dr. Belanger (a woman), now. As for improvements since then, it's worth noting that some of Lawrence's pictures for him are *immediately* post-op, when everything is horrifying. Mine looked terrible for the first few weeks, too. The main distinction I note if I disregard those pictures is that the clitoral hooding and inner labia definition is better now, and the urethral mucosa lining both (for me at least) is a very natural pink. He also does a rudimentary posterior fourchette; not as good as you get with a two-stage procedure, but not out of the range of cis variations, which is good enough for me. I do have considerably smaller and "neater" inner labia than many of those photos, though whether that's an improvement is a matter of opinion - I like it, but that's my personal preference, not a general judgment.

No, I don't think she was intersex, she just had an undescended or missing testicle. It happens in some cis men as well.

Reposted :

In fact, I had essentially full sensation - clitoral, labial, and internal vaginal - from the moment I woke up from surgery. This was a downside during the initial days, as you can imagine, although the pain wasn't all that bad.

Yes, I am easily orgasmic. It took a bit of effort to relearn my body, but my first orgasm was 3 weeks post-op in a dream, so clearly the nerves all worked fine and it was my brain getting in the way!

Not sure about prostate sensation. I didn't ever experiment with prostate stimulation pre-op, so I wouldn't necessarily recognize it post-op. I do have an area of highly erogenous sensation in roughly the equivalent spot to the "G-spot," which I have been told is likely the prostate.

I am fully sensate inside my vagina. Again, not orgasmic from vaginal stimulation alone, but it's NICE.

Never any numbness, either.

In fact, the pain was less and ended faster than I'd expected. It was still probably 3-4 months before I wasn't a *little* sore after a long day, but less than a month before I was almost 100% pain-free.

Yes, I have labia majora which are aesthetically correct and properly located. Mine are pretty puffy, but I also had tremendous, ridiculous swelling right after (even the nurses were shocked), so I'm not convinced it's all gone away YET.

Ditto the labia minora. They're fairly small, but that's not atypical.

Yes, I have both a fully (extremely!) sensitive clitoris and hood. Incidentally, both the clitoral hood and labia minora have the inner portion lined with leftover urethra, which is mucosal tissue that is light pink and moist just as in cis women, a detail I appreciate.

Yes, my urethra is correctly positioned and functional. It's just barely distinguishable from the vaginal opening (ie, directly above), which matches what I see in my wife and on anatomical diagrams. There were some issues with spraying early on because of the severe swelling, but everything works fine now.

My vaginal opening is also correctly placed and looks normal.


I did not do hair removal, and have had no hair regrowth except in areas where I would expect it (pubis, outside of the labia majora).


5" of depth as far as I can determine. I'm content with that. I started with 5.5" but that half inch may have been swelling for all I know.

No serious complications aside from one stitch that pulled out early but healed cleanly. I did have a reccurring soreness and a need to massage/stretch the scar tissue around 3 months post-op, which I've been told is normal for any surgery (not just GRS).

I did have a devil of a time with the catheter, though. Again, bladder spasms are harmless and common, but that was AWFUL. I was so glad to see that go.
   

He offers free revisions for the first year but I was happy. It's quirky/not identical to other vulva I've seen, but hey, that's normal!

As a final note, I also do self-lubricate somewhat, and can "squirt" at orgasm on occasion. (But I have a female partner; my experience with penetrative sex does not involve men, if that matters.) All in all, I'm very satisfied.
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dling

Quote from: Jenna Marie on April 13, 2014, 09:04:41 PM
Menard retired a while ago; Brassard works with a Dr. Belanger (a woman), now. As for improvements since then, it's worth noting that some of Lawrence's pictures for him are *immediately* post-op, when everything is horrifying. Mine looked terrible for the first few weeks, too. The main distinction I note if I disregard those pictures is that the clitoral hooding and inner labia definition is better now, and the urethral mucosa lining both (for me at least) is a very natural pink. He also does a rudimentary posterior fourchette; not as good as you get with a two-stage procedure, but not out of the range of cis variations, which is good enough for me. I do have considerably smaller and "neater" inner labia than many of those photos, though whether that's an improvement is a matter of opinion - I like it, but that's my personal preference, not a general judgment.

No, I don't think she was intersex, she just had an undescended or missing testicle. It happens in some cis men as well.

Reposted :

In fact, I had essentially full sensation - clitoral, labial, and internal vaginal - from the moment I woke up from surgery. This was a downside during the initial days, as you can imagine, although the pain wasn't all that bad.

Yes, I am easily orgasmic. It took a bit of effort to relearn my body, but my first orgasm was 3 weeks post-op in a dream, so clearly the nerves all worked fine and it was my brain getting in the way!

Not sure about prostate sensation. I didn't ever experiment with prostate stimulation pre-op, so I wouldn't necessarily recognize it post-op. I do have an area of highly erogenous sensation in roughly the equivalent spot to the "G-spot," which I have been told is likely the prostate.

I am fully sensate inside my vagina. Again, not orgasmic from vaginal stimulation alone, but it's NICE.

Never any numbness, either.

In fact, the pain was less and ended faster than I'd expected. It was still probably 3-4 months before I wasn't a *little* sore after a long day, but less than a month before I was almost 100% pain-free.

Yes, I have labia majora which are aesthetically correct and properly located. Mine are pretty puffy, but I also had tremendous, ridiculous swelling right after (even the nurses were shocked), so I'm not convinced it's all gone away YET.

Ditto the labia minora. They're fairly small, but that's not atypical.

Yes, I have both a fully (extremely!) sensitive clitoris and hood. Incidentally, both the clitoral hood and labia minora have the inner portion lined with leftover urethra, which is mucosal tissue that is light pink and moist just as in cis women, a detail I appreciate.

Yes, my urethra is correctly positioned and functional. It's just barely distinguishable from the vaginal opening (ie, directly above), which matches what I see in my wife and on anatomical diagrams. There were some issues with spraying early on because of the severe swelling, but everything works fine now.

My vaginal opening is also correctly placed and looks normal.


I did not do hair removal, and have had no hair regrowth except in areas where I would expect it (pubis, outside of the labia majora).


5" of depth as far as I can determine. I'm content with that. I started with 5.5" but that half inch may have been swelling for all I know.

No serious complications aside from one stitch that pulled out early but healed cleanly. I did have a reccurring soreness and a need to massage/stretch the scar tissue around 3 months post-op, which I've been told is normal for any surgery (not just GRS).

I did have a devil of a time with the catheter, though. Again, bladder spasms are harmless and common, but that was AWFUL. I was so glad to see that go.
   

He offers free revisions for the first year but I was happy. It's quirky/not identical to other vulva I've seen, but hey, that's normal!

As a final note, I also do self-lubricate somewhat, and can "squirt" at orgasm on occasion. (But I have a female partner; my experience with penetrative sex does not involve men, if that matters.) All in all, I'm very satisfied.

I see. Is the size of the clitoris and the hood within the normal female range, though? I've seen some (from other surgeons) that really look like the penis glans, which is very discouraging...

I am very confused about fourchettes, is it like a loose skin below the opening?

What about scarring? Is it noticeable?

Did it hurt to dilate? Is his schedule very vigorous?

There is one result here on Susans, do you think it is more like his recent or older work: https://www.susans.org/wiki/File:Post-op-vagina.jpg

He seems to do very neat work, like "Barbie" vaginas (http://urogyn.org/labiaplasty_barbie.html)

Sorry for the many questions. I really do appreciate any answers you can give me  :)






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Jenna Marie

My clit is just about the same size as my wife's. :) I don't know precisely what the cis range for them is, but it's tiny and super sensitive. The hood is appropriately sized to it.

The fourchette is where the labia meet beneath the vaginal opening. http://chestofbooks.com/health/anatomy/Human-Body-Construction/images/Fig-465-External-female-genitals-vulva.jpg

Scarring for me is two 3" or so scars, one each on the labia majora; after 2 years and hair regrowth, they're effectively invisible. I have some internal scarring as well, which I don't know the details of (I can't see it) but have been assured that it looks similar to the results of a hysterectomy. But yes, I will say it very much resembles the "after" photos in those Barbie vagina/labial trimming pics. If that's what you want - it isn't for everyone - he does it VERY well.

That photo from Susan's is an actual poster here; I feel really weird commenting with a critique of her genitalia.

Dilation was never terribly painful except for one time when I wore tight pants and chafed badly down there. Uncomfortable to mildly painful sometimes in the first couple months, and it got better with time. I did find the first month's dilation + aftercare schedule to be a lot of work, but that also improved rapidly over time.

The dilation schedule from Brassard's own communications :


Post operative dilation and douching instructions

Dilations

Healing after a vaginoplasty lasts one year.  Keep in mind that the
success of this surgery depends on maintaining the length, girth and
depth of your new vagina.  To achieve this, you need a set of 4
dilators and respect the instructions below. Do not stop dilations
without advising your surgeon.  Stopping dilations will cause the loss
of the vaginal canal and is irreversible without further surgery (skin
grafts or bowel transposition).

Relaxing

Relaxing is the key step.  It will make dilations much easier.  Taking
ten slow deep breaths before beginning is one good way to get rid of
tension.

Angle

After you have localized the vaginal opening with a mirror, insertion
should be made for the 2 first inches with a slightly downwards 15°
angle.  Do not go directly towards the rectum.  After that the angle
should be corrected so that the dilator becomes almost parallel to the
bed while trying to aim at the navel.

Pressure

Insertion should always be gentle and slow.  When the dilator is
inside the vagina for the entire length, apply constant not forceful
pressure.  Gaining depth by applying more pressure is not advised.

Dilation instructions

Wash your hands

The first day of your dilations, the attending nurse will show you
every step of the process.

-       Hold dilator #1 like a pen

-       Apply about one teaspoon of lubricant gel on the tip of the dilator

-       Insert at a slight downward angle for the 2 first inches

-       Leave dilator inside 5 minutes; remove slowly

-       Repeat with dilator #2 for 15 minutes

The second day of dilation can be more difficult because of swelling
that sets inside the vagina during the night. It is perfectly normal.
Be patient.

You should gently and frequently wipe out the gel that is coming out
at the bottom of the vagina.

Wait 3 months before having intercourse.



DILATION SCHEDULE

At the residence

You should dilate 4 times per day.

Day of traveling

You should at least dilate once before leaving the residence.  If you
have time, dilate more that once before your departure.  Even if you
have a long day of traveling and you cannot dilate for hours, you
should plan on doing at least one dilation when you arrive at home.
Please be active on the plane.  Walk as much as you can.

Home

Resume your schedule as soon as possible.

At home, you should dilate 4 times per day with, #1, #2 for 5, 15
minutes for one month.

Dilate 3 times per day with #1, #2, #3 for 5, 10, 15 minutes for two months.

Dilate twice a day with #2, #3, #4, for 5, 10, 15 minutes for 3 months

Dilate once a day with #3, #4, for 5, 15 minutes for 6 months.

Slowly increase the interval of time between each dilation until you
reach one dilation per week with #4, for 15 minutes for the rest of
your life.

If you have difficulties with a bigger size dilator, wait before you
are comfortable with this one before using a bigger size.  You can go
back to a smaller size and increase the frequency for a few days.


CARE FOR DILATORS

Wash the dilators after each use with non-abrasive antibacterial soap
in warm water and dry thoroughly.  Do not wash them in the dishwasher
or clean with alcohol.  This could damage them.

While at the convalescence home, the dilators are kept in Hibitane,
Dexidin 4 or  Hiciclens 4  to find in pharmacy.  25ml of solution in
one gallon of demineralised water) Use one or the other solution.
After 2 months, store them in a clean and dry place between dilations.

In two months, stop: vaginal douche, soaking your dilators and sitz bath.

The Polysporin cream is for 10 days.

Maintain at least 2 hours intervals between dilations (from the time
you finish one and the time you do another one, 2 hours minimum.
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Jenna Marie

(actually, now that I've read around that site a bit more - the Barbie look is complete *removal* of the labia minora! So, no, I guess that's not true. I do still have them, they're just not very prominent - more like what the site is calling the "rim" or "hybrid" look. They exist, but are tucked neatly inside the labia majora.)
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dling

Quote from: Jenna Marie on April 13, 2014, 09:35:19 PM
My clit is just about the same size as my wife's. :) I don't know precisely what the cis range for them is, but it's tiny and super sensitive. The hood is appropriately sized to it.

The fourchette is where the labia meet beneath the vaginal opening. http://chestofbooks.com/health/anatomy/Human-Body-Construction/images/Fig-465-External-female-genitals-vulva.jpg

Scarring for me is two 3" or so scars, one each on the labia majora; after 2 years and hair regrowth, they're effectively invisible. I have some internal scarring as well, which I don't know the details of (I can't see it) but have been assured that it looks similar to the results of a hysterectomy. But yes, I will say it very much resembles the "after" photos in those Barbie vagina/labial trimming pics. If that's what you want - it isn't for everyone - he does it VERY well.

That photo from Susan's is an actual poster here; I feel really weird commenting with a critique of her genitalia.

Dilation was never terribly painful except for one time when I wore tight pants and chafed badly down there. Uncomfortable to mildly painful sometimes in the first couple months, and it got better with time. I did find the first month's dilation + aftercare schedule to be a lot of work, but that also improved rapidly over time.

The dilation schedule from Brassard's own communications :


Post operative dilation and douching instructions

Dilations

Healing after a vaginoplasty lasts one year.  Keep in mind that the
success of this surgery depends on maintaining the length, girth and
depth of your new vagina.  To achieve this, you need a set of 4
dilators and respect the instructions below. Do not stop dilations
without advising your surgeon.  Stopping dilations will cause the loss
of the vaginal canal and is irreversible without further surgery (skin
grafts or bowel transposition).

Relaxing

Relaxing is the key step.  It will make dilations much easier.  Taking
ten slow deep breaths before beginning is one good way to get rid of
tension.

Angle

After you have localized the vaginal opening with a mirror, insertion
should be made for the 2 first inches with a slightly downwards 15°
angle.  Do not go directly towards the rectum.  After that the angle
should be corrected so that the dilator becomes almost parallel to the
bed while trying to aim at the navel.

Pressure

Insertion should always be gentle and slow.  When the dilator is
inside the vagina for the entire length, apply constant not forceful
pressure.  Gaining depth by applying more pressure is not advised.

Dilation instructions

Wash your hands

The first day of your dilations, the attending nurse will show you
every step of the process.

-       Hold dilator #1 like a pen

-       Apply about one teaspoon of lubricant gel on the tip of the dilator

-       Insert at a slight downward angle for the 2 first inches

-       Leave dilator inside 5 minutes; remove slowly

-       Repeat with dilator #2 for 15 minutes

The second day of dilation can be more difficult because of swelling
that sets inside the vagina during the night. It is perfectly normal.
Be patient.

You should gently and frequently wipe out the gel that is coming out
at the bottom of the vagina.

Wait 3 months before having intercourse.



DILATION SCHEDULE

At the residence

You should dilate 4 times per day.

Day of traveling

You should at least dilate once before leaving the residence.  If you
have time, dilate more that once before your departure.  Even if you
have a long day of traveling and you cannot dilate for hours, you
should plan on doing at least one dilation when you arrive at home.
Please be active on the plane.  Walk as much as you can.

Home

Resume your schedule as soon as possible.

At home, you should dilate 4 times per day with, #1, #2 for 5, 15
minutes for one month.

Dilate 3 times per day with #1, #2, #3 for 5, 10, 15 minutes for two months.

Dilate twice a day with #2, #3, #4, for 5, 10, 15 minutes for 3 months

Dilate once a day with #3, #4, for 5, 15 minutes for 6 months.

Slowly increase the interval of time between each dilation until you
reach one dilation per week with #4, for 15 minutes for the rest of
your life.

If you have difficulties with a bigger size dilator, wait before you
are comfortable with this one before using a bigger size.  You can go
back to a smaller size and increase the frequency for a few days.


CARE FOR DILATORS

Wash the dilators after each use with non-abrasive antibacterial soap
in warm water and dry thoroughly.  Do not wash them in the dishwasher
or clean with alcohol.  This could damage them.

While at the convalescence home, the dilators are kept in Hibitane,
Dexidin 4 or  Hiciclens 4  to find in pharmacy.  25ml of solution in
one gallon of demineralised water) Use one or the other solution.
After 2 months, store them in a clean and dry place between dilations.

In two months, stop: vaginal douche, soaking your dilators and sitz bath.

The Polysporin cream is for 10 days.

Maintain at least 2 hours intervals between dilations (from the time
you finish one and the time you do another one, 2 hours minimum.

Oh, I see.  :) Yes, I definitely want the "Rim" look (very clean), which is why I am worried about choosing Suporn.

I do have two more questions: I've heard from someone that they personally know two people who have gone to Brassard and did not have good results. Do you know others who have gone to him and who are happy or unhappy with their results?

I truly want a functional vagina, but (as shallow-minded as this may sound), most importantly I want it to be pretty  :D :P

Also, do you know his requirements for the surgery? Letters? RLF? HRT?

Please let me know. Thank you so very much for all your help  :angel:


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mrs izzy

Quote from: daahrling on April 13, 2014, 09:19:35 PM
I see. Is the size of the clitoris and the hood within the normal female range, though? I've seen some (from other surgeons) that really look like the penis glans, which is very discouraging... Mine is of a normal cis size.

I am very confused about fourchettes, is it like a loose skin below the opening? I know what you are talking about in CIS but nothing that is normaly made in the Neo. Maybe something thing extra can be done.

What about scarring? Is it noticeable? Yes and no. Depends on healing.

Did it hurt to dilate? Is his schedule very vigorous? Dilations should not hurt, they are unpleasent but should not cause any real pain unless there is trouble. Size increase makes the most pain. But maybe it is just me?

There is one result here on Susans, do you think it is more like his recent or older work: https://www.susans.org/wiki/File:Post-op-vagina.jpg

He seems to do very neat work, like "Barbie" vaginas (http://urogyn.org/labiaplasty_barbie.html)

Sorry for the many questions. I really do appreciate any answers you can give me  :)
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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Jenna Marie

If you contact his office, they'll send you the patient package with his requirements - I know what they were two years ago, but honestly, I'd recommend getting the up to date info from them directly. (They emailed me when I asked, so it was super easy on both ends.)

I was there with almost 2 dozen women during the week and a half and all at least said they were happy; I have another close friend who went with him and is content with the aesthetics and functionality but hasn't shared specific details.

Again, the size of the labia minora is a personal thing, but yes, I do hear that Suporn likes to make them larger and Brassard prefers small and tidy.
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mrs izzy

Quote from: daahrling on April 13, 2014, 09:47:35 PM
Oh, I see.  :) Yes, I definitely want the "Rim" look (very clean), which is why I am worried about choosing Suporn.

I do have two more questions: I've heard from someone that they personally know two people who have gone to Brassard and did not have good results. Do you know others who have gone to him and who are happy or unhappy with their results?

I truly want a functional vagina, but (as shallow-minded as this may sound), most importantly I want it to be pretty  :D :P

Also, do you know his requirements for the surgery? Letters? RLF? HRT?


Please let me know. Thank you so very much for all your help  :angel:
Results are based on ones own expectaions. If you want natural 100% female you are going to be unhappy with who every you chose.
Lots have been unhappy with surgeons due to there own aftercare.

So comes down to expectaions. GCS is a art form, and in any art there can be difference from one to the next.
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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dling

Quote from: Jenna Marie on April 13, 2014, 09:52:40 PM
If you contact his office, they'll send you the patient package with his requirements - I know what they were two years ago, but honestly, I'd recommend getting the up to date info from them directly. (They emailed me when I asked, so it was super easy on both ends.)

I was there with almost 2 dozen women during the week and a half and all at least said they were happy; I have another close friend who went with him and is content with the aesthetics and functionality but hasn't shared specific details.

Again, the size of the labia minora is a personal thing, but yes, I do hear that Suporn likes to make them larger and Brassard prefers small and tidy.

I just sent them an email today, hopefully they will answer soon :)

I know there is a lot of variation (both in cis and trans woman), but do you think I can achieve something like the "Rim" look with Brassard?

Someone sent me a PM that made me very worried, they said they have 2 friends who had results that weren't very natural  ??? :'( Worried me a bit.

Quote from: mind is quiet now on April 13, 2014, 09:50:34 PM


Hi Isabell :) Do you think the scars are very noticeable, or only somewhat?

With size increase, do you mean in depth or in width?

Please let me know :)

I saw one result here on Susans that seemed pretty good, but I'm not sure (I'm attracted to men, so I don't really know what is considered natural or attractive in the vulva department :P)
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mrs izzy

Quote from: daahrling on April 13, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
I just sent them an email today, hopefully they will answer soon :)

I know there is a lot of variation (both in cis and trans woman), but do you think I can achieve something like the "Rim" look with Brassard?

Someone sent me a PM that made me very worried, they said they have 2 friends who had results that weren't very natural  ??? :'( Worried me a bit.

Hi Isabell :) Do you think the scars are very noticeable, or only somewhat? I have on one side a spot that is a little larger then the rest, it was a spot that took longer to heal. The hair line covers almost all of the scar. It is only a year old and still is on the pink side. In time i feel it will be un noticable. I am happy.

With size increase, do you mean in depth or in width? Width, as you go up in dilator size

Please let me know :)

I saw one result here on Susans that seemed pretty good, but I'm not sure (I'm attracted to men, so I don't really know what is considered natural or attractive in the vulva department :P) Most men are only interested in one thing the most and has noting to do with looking for scars lol.

Any of the better know surgeons do a great job. If not they would not be around. It comes down to who you feel confortable with.
I tell anyone GCS is the easy part, after care is where you get the sucess. Everyone heals different and it is a part of life. Not everything is 100% perfict.


Isabell
Mrs. Izzy
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dling

Quote from: mind is quiet now on April 13, 2014, 10:12:10 PM
Any of the better know surgeons do a great job. If not they would not be around. It comes down to who you feel confortable with.
I tell anyone GCS is the easy part, after care is where you get the sucess. Everyone heals different and it is a part of life. Not everything is 100% perfict.


Isabell

I guess so. It is such a difficult choice. You can only do SRS once  :o For me it really is between Suporn and Brassard though... With Brassard, I'm afraid of not having enough depth, while with Suporn I'm afraid of not having the cosmetic result I want (which is very clean and pink and small, more like what Brassard seems to do) Aaah, such a difficult choice!  :'( :'(
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mrs izzy

Quote from: daahrling on April 13, 2014, 10:28:16 PM
I guess so. It is such a difficult choice. You can only do SRS once  :o For me it really is between Suporn and Brassard though... With Brassard, I'm afraid of not having enough depth, while with Suporn I'm afraid of not having the cosmetic result I want (which is very clean and pink and small, more like what Brassard seems to do) Aaah, such a difficult choice!  :'( :'(

Yes it is a huge choice one must make. and i think you would be happy with either of your choices. Also Dr. McGinn or Dr. Bowers in the states are also good choices.

I wish you the best. If you do decide to come here in Montreal let me know and would love to stop by and say hello.
Isabell
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dling

Quote from: mind is quiet now on April 13, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
Yes it is a huge choice one must make. and i think you would be happy with either of your choices. Also Dr. McGinn or Dr. Bowers in the states are also good choices.

I wish you the best. If you do decide to come here in Montreal let me know and would love to stop by and say hello.
Isabell

Indeed. I am not really a fan of McGinn's results (at least not the ones she has on her website), while Dr. Bowers seems to vary a lot. However, the results closest to the look I want ("Rim" or "Barbie"; http://urogyn.org/labiaplasty_rim.html) seem to be by Dr. Brassard. I think I will definitely at least have a personal consultation with him. Do you know if he shows pictures of his current results during them?

Please let me know. Thanks  :) ;) :D
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mrs izzy

Quote from: daahrling on April 13, 2014, 10:48:14 PM
Indeed. I am not really a fan of McGinn's results (at least not the ones she has on her website), while Dr. Bowers seems to vary a lot. However, the results closest to the look I want ("Rim" or "Barbie"; http://urogyn.org/labiaplasty_rim.html) seem to be by Dr. Brassard. I think I will definitely at least have a personal consultation with him. Do you know if he shows pictures of his current results during them?

Please let me know. Thanks  :) ;) :D

I think they have, i never asked being i know mine will be mine. Just like CIS no two are ever the same.

I think they will answer any special request if they feel it is possible.

Isabell
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I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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dling

Quote from: mind is quiet now on April 13, 2014, 11:06:49 PM
I think they have, i never asked being i know mine will be mine. Just like CIS no two are ever the same.

I think they will answer any special request if they feel it is possible.

Isabell

Ah, I see. The only results from him I can find are on Anne's website and one result on Susan's. Do you know any where else I can find them?
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