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As far as androgyny goes, if only.... At least I have the same hairstyle. 

Being short does help, actually. The narrow hips are much less noticeable if you're short. Also, being petite is a HUGE factor. I wish I could show you a picture of me by one of my trans friends (I wont because it's not respectful to her). She's not big at all (in fact she's 3" taller than me and weighs just as much), but next to her I look tiny. Her shoulders are much more broad, and side by side the picture would be worth a thousand words. The broader girls tend to pack muscle a bit more, too. That really hurts with the cute factor, unfortunately.

Quote from: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 02:14:34 AM
BTW just putting this here...



As far as androgyny goes, if only.... At least I have the same hairstyle. 

Oooh cool! He seems awesome! Totally inspiring to me.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on April 19, 2014, 02:15:17 AM
Being short does help, actually. The narrow hips are much less noticeable if you're short. Also, being petite is a HUGE factor. I wish I could show you a picture of me by one of my trans friends (I wont because it's not respectful to her). She's not big at all (in fact she's 3" taller than me and weighs just as much), but next to her I look tiny. Her shoulders are much more broad, and side by side the picture would be worth a thousand words. The broader girls tend to pack muscle a bit more, too. That really hurts with the cute factor, unfortunately.

Yeah I can't wait for my upper body mass to melt away. 7 weeks in. I HATE IT.

I really think it depends on bone structure and such, I'm not petite by any measure and thought I was doomed to a life of awkward big but turns out my hips are way wider than my shoulders, my ass is "huge", I've got long limbs and my shoulder-line is very angled. I think it's all about ratios but that's just my personal opinion

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on April 19, 2014, 02:15:17 AM
Being short does help, actually. The narrow hips are much less noticeable if you're short. Also, being petite is a HUGE factor. I wish I could show you a picture of me by one of my trans friends (I wont because it's not respectful to her). She's not big at all (in fact she's 3" taller than me and weighs just as much), but next to her I look tiny. Her shoulders are much more broad, and side by side the picture would be worth a thousand words. The broader girls tend to pack muscle a bit more, too. That really hurts with the cute factor, unfortunately.

Well, there are exceptions. But unfortunately western civilization likes narrow women at this time in history. I'm not necessarily narrow by cis standards, but I'm really grateful I'm not stocky...

Not to say you don't fall in line with being attractive though, it's more a generalization with MtFs. As a whole, we have a lot of things to battle against as far as being attractive.

Quote from: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 02:20:06 AM
Yeah I can't wait for my upper body mass to melt away. 7 weeks in. I HATE IT.

Oh, bring it on, Evelyn!!!  Like yesterday!

Two modest weeks on HRT and summer has arrived with a vengeance here in Madrid and I'm in a bit of a panic.  Winter clothing is really good for us transgirls, but until the lats and biceps go away, despite my being really petite, I have to cover myself up.

I'm gonna end up looking like someone's spinster aunt this whole summer - overdressed, hint of a moustache, sipping a risqué tonic water... Waaaaaaaaahhhhh 

Muscles take a while. I think the 16 month mark was when I was really starting to lose it.

^^

Just enjoy the ride

She's pretty, but don't mess with her... have ya seen those biceps 

Ah well.... patience patience girls...!

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on April 19, 2014, 02:35:57 AM
Muscles take a while. I think the 16 month mark was when I was really starting to lose it.

Ughhh I wish. Nothing seems to get rid of my huge thighs ;o; it's really bad since I gained like 10 lbs, even stretch denim squeezes the dear life out of em. You'd think like, starving yourself for a while would help but noooo.

Ha! I doubt your thighs are muscular. I was eating fast food every day for 8 months and I couldn't fit into some of my jeans either. They'd hang up at my thighs right at my butt. It's not cute but it's not muscles

Quote from: sad panda on April 19, 2014, 02:49:48 AM
Ughhh I wish. Nothing seems to get rid of my huge thighs ;o; it's really bad since I gained like 10 lbs, even stretch denim squeezes the dear life out of em. You'd think like, starving yourself for a while would help but noooo.

I've actually thought about that, getting really thin before starting HRT so when the fat buildup begins anew, you'll have the cleanest form to work on.

As far as muscles, well I try to be a vegetable as much as I can. I do feel much more easily fatigued though so kudos to that and knowing they are slowly atrophying. Frequent runs for groceries instead of carrying stuffed heavy bags and the like. Just a little poultry and seafood. Keeping away from zinc, anything with creatine.

Don't stay away from protein. Protein is necessary on so many levels. It helps the hair and skin, and it's essential in cell formation. I have a diet HIGH in protein and I still lost quite a bit of muscle. Drink lots of water too, that helps have really healthy looking skin. STAY OFF SODA!!!! That stuff is evil for us!

Oh ya, I'll eat poultry, fish, pork, eggs sometimes with reckless abandon. But the red meats (creatine) I'll stay away from.

Ok, just makin sure Being a vegan going through HRT is probably the last thing you'll wanna do. Your skin and hair will come out awful and your face will look gaunt. That's a big no no for MtFs. I've always said, hair is 60% of passing!

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on April 19, 2014, 02:55:43 AM
Ha! I doubt your thighs are muscular. I was eating fast food every day for 8 months and I couldn't fit into some of my jeans either. They'd hang up at my thighs right at my butt. It's not cute but it's not muscles

Ugh yeah. This happens. It's so annoying too. Apparently my thighs are 25" now ;o; they went up four inches since I checked... oh my god... what I get for having short legs.

Is it weird that I love my athletic upper body? I love being strong and athletic. I know I probably have other feminine gender markers that compensate so I'm not as self-conscious about them as others, but just wanna put that out there that I love having badass muscles, especially on my back.

^^ Many fit women really pull off the toned armed look nicely so yeah it shouldn't necessarily be a gender marker. This is CIS BTW

(and oh gawd these ladies are so hawt)

The one on the left