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my dad keeps telling me that no one is going to hire me cause im transgendered.

Started by Angélique LaCava, April 22, 2014, 06:05:53 PM

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Angélique LaCava

He told me  no one is going to hire me since im transgendered cause they wont want to risk losing their business cause someone may know me and see me and complain. ive applied to 2 places already and both didn't set up a interview with me. I did call them and they said no thanks. I included that I was a MTF transgender in the online application. what should I do? I hav no money and my parents are sayin they arnt going to give me anymore money for my cosmetic needs such as makeup,razors to shave my face and body and other stuff. im stressing out rite now.

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Hideyoshi

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 22, 2014, 06:05:53 PM
He told me  no one is going to hire me since im transgendered cause they wont want to risk losing their business cause someone may know me and see me and complain. ive applied to 2 places already and both didn't set up a interview with me. I did call them and they said no thanks. I included that I was a MTF transgender in the online application. what should I do? I hav no money and my parents are sayin they arnt going to give me anymore money for my cosmetic needs such as makeup,razors to shave my face and body and other stuff. im stressing out rite now.

Try to find a more liberal business.  It'll be harder to find jobs, especially if you come out and say you're transgender.  If I were you, I'd list my legal name on the application and not mention the trans part, and if you get the interview, go in girl mode, and if they have an issue with it, or if they clock you, explain your situation. If you find a good business, it shouldn't matter, especially in a position where you don't deal with customers.  If a business doesn't want to hire you because you're trans, that's not the type of business (in my opinion) a trans person should work for.
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Tori

In an application there should be no need to mention your gender or race or whatnot, but it may come up during the interview and/or background check.


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JadeFla

That is sad to hear your dad is so unsupportive. Things have changed a lot since he was your age.

I don't think you have to declare you are trans on a job application. A friend of mine held a job as a cashier on at one of those corporate retail places while transitioning in central Florida, certainly not a trans-friendly area. You can find a normal job.

Most big companies actually protect trans-rights.
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naomi599

I think you can find somewhere to work. Don't let negative people bring you down, use them to push you forward to prove them wrong. If its any help, couldn't be any worse than the discrimination Canadians face....



All joking aside, you can get a job, there are people that will hire you. Don't include that your trans on the application. That way you can make an appearance to prove how awesome of an employee you can be for that company before they can make any assumptions.
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Sarah leah

You are not required by law anywhere to state your gender, religion, sexual preferences, political affiliation or age. If they ask it they are breaking the law. Also two jobs is not a great deal, just apply everyday for 4-5 at a time, you will get one as long as you have the correct qualifications.


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peky

get an education or trade ! Cause life is hard, and even harder if you do not any skills
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Jessica Merriman

Not trying to rock the boat here, but unless they told you this is why they did not hire you this is speculation at best. :)
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Ltl89

There are plenty of professional MTFs out there that prove him otherwise.  Yes, it may be harder for those of us who are not established, but I know transwomen that started there careers after the fact too.  Being trans isn't easy and you will face discrimination in this world in some form, but it doesn't mean you are destined for a life of unemployment.  I've been able to get hired despite my situation and there are plenty others to.  Again, it's harder than it should be, but it doesn't mean you can't find something.  I believe my job search has been much much harder than it should be, but I have gotten passed this in the past and will be able to do the same again.  Don't give up hope and work hard to secure something. 

As for mentinining that you are trans on your application, something tells me that its not the best idea.  If it's not related to your job performance, it may be best to refrain from talking about it.  Having said that, take my advice with a grain of salt because I'm currently looking for work myself and don't have all the answers. 
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on April 22, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Not trying to rock the boat here, but unless they told you this is why they did not hire you this is speculation at best. :)
I should also have stated that ive never had a job so they had no other reason to not hire me.
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: learningtolive on April 22, 2014, 07:53:20 PM
There are plenty of professional MTFs out there that prove him otherwise.  Yes, it may be harder for those of us who are not established, but I know transwomen that started there careers after the fact too.  Being trans isn't easy and you will face discrimination in this world in some form, but it doesn't mean you are destined for a life of unemployment.  I've been able to get hired despite my situation and there are plenty others to.  Again, it's harder than it should be, but it doesn't mean you can't find something.  I believe my job search has been much much harder than it should be, but I have gotten passed this in the past and will be able to do the same again.  Don't give up hope and work hard to secure something. 

As for mentinining that you are trans on your application, something tells me that its not the best idea.  If it's not related to your job performance, it may be best to refrain from talking about it.  Having said that, take my advice with a grain of salt because I'm currently looking for work myself and don't have all the answers.
they going to know im transgender tho. I gotta put male as my gender. that's why I state that im transgender so there is no confusion wen I go in for an interview.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 22, 2014, 07:54:09 PM
I should also have stated that ive never had a job so they had no other reason to not hire me.

Well, inexperience is one of the biggest reasons that people don't get the job.  It's sad, but there many so called entry level jobs that require a few years of work.  The requirements are skewed to get the best workers they can for the cheapest price in this economy.
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Ltl89

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 22, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
they going to know im transgender tho. I gotta put male as my gender. that's why I state that im transgender so there is no confusion wen I go in for an interview.

Good point.  I know there are so people here that have changed jobs before their legal name was changed.  Hopefully they will chime in.   I've been applying as male to avoid this, but yeah it does cause confusion to a degree even though I'm not even full time. 

Edited for critical word omission. 
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: learningtolive on April 22, 2014, 07:56:47 PM
Well, inexperience is one of the biggest reasons that people don't get the job.  It's sad, but there many so called entry level jobs that require a few years of work.  The requirements are skewed to get the best workers they can for the cheapest price in this economy.
well let me add that the 2 places I applied at were burger king and dollar general. I highly doubt anyone who works at those 2 places need much experience lol
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Ltl89

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 22, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
well let me add that the 2 places I applied at were burger king and dollar general. I highly doubt anyone who works at those 2 places need many skills lol

True, though they don't always need more help.  A lot of jobs are working with the bare minimum staff, if that, in order to cut costs.  It may be more of a payroll issue than discrimination.  I'm not saying it's possible, but there are many other factors that could have played a role.
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 22, 2014, 07:54:09 PM
I should also have stated that ive never had a job so they had no other reason to not hire me.
Except for a work history and skills. It is much easier to get a job when you have had one. :)
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: learningtolive on April 22, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
True, though they don't always need more help.  A lot of jobs are working with the bare minimum staff, if that, in order to cut costs.  It may be more of a payroll issue than discrimination.  I'm not saying it's possible, but there are many other factors that could have played a role.
I understand, but my best friend works at the burger king I applied at and she told me they was hiring. she even asked the manager while I was on the phone wit her and I heard the manager say yea.
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Ltl89

It's possible.  I mean I wouldn't deny that there is discrimination out there.  I just don't want to see you give up.  There was a point that I went through months of unemployment despite sending out hundreds of resumes.  Finally I found something at the time.  It's possible to get hired even if it's more challenging, so don't give in to hoplessness over something your father said.

Again, I hope those who were in a similar boat will respond and give you more help and insight with this.
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 22, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
I understand, but my best friend works at the burger king I applied at and she told me they was hiring. she even asked the manager while I was on the phone wit her and I heard the manager say yea.
Just trying to say don't jump to unsubstantiated conclusions as it could cause you legal trouble. :)
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AdamMLP

If you don't mind a guy chipping in...

I applied for a quite a few jobs last year, some of which I was over qualified for and got rejected from all bar one without any explanation.  For the job that I did get there were over 150 other people going for each place.  My mother was applying for jobs as well, she's had a lifetime working in catering but she still got rejected straight away for over twice as many as she even got interviews for.  She's cis and I didn't say that I was trans.  It's probably more of a case that too many people are applying for jobs than you being trans, but personally I'd never put in an application that said I was trans, they're sorting through applications quickly and are going to quickly cut down the field for any reason that they can find, and being trans might just be that thing.  If you look good on paper and get through to an interview it's a lot harder for them not to give a reason why.

And I know a trans woman who was in a similar situation, she'd recently came out and got made redundant by her company.  She was panicking that no one would want to employ her.  By the end of the day a company had heard what had happened and was on the phone to her offering her a better position than she'd had before.  She's now one of the first people that new employees meet when they join.

Lots of people are looking for jobs, it's not easy right now.  But you can and will get a job, even if you are trans.  Don't give up, just keep applying.
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