I'm just wondering, has any of you experienced a female orgasm? Cause I certainly have...more than once...I just wanted to know if guys who have some kind of gender issue can really have these orgasms or it's something a lil' more rare. Thanks for answering!

I've been able to have multiple orgasms, with and without ejaculating, even been able to reach climax a couple of times without any external stimulation. It's a very different kind of orgasm, I have no idea if this is more common in transwomen compared to the male population, would not surprise me if it is since sex is so tightly tied with our brains.

The "female orgasm" is a myth. Orgasms start in the brain, at exactly the same place for both men and women. Supposedly, "female orgasms" last longer and come "in waves". Well, when I started my anti-depressants, it was hard for me to orgasm (guess a lot of women have the same problem), but when I finally did? It lasted way longer than usual, and I suppose yes, it came "in waves"... In the sense that I felt I rode my orgasm until I climaxed fully...

Yes, I have a weenie. I don't really think the female orgasm is a thing, rather orgasms vary depending on the longevity of the sexual stimuli you've received. Orgasms aren't really "gendered", I don't think, some people just like them more than others but essentially it's the same brain reaction for both men and women.

The media tries to spread a different image though, one that hypersexualizes women and their desires/feelings, for the sake of male fantasies, really. A lot of women haven't ever experienced an orgasm, the vast majority can't orgasm from penetration alone... Women derive the most pleasure from their clitoris... Go ahead and Google what a clitoris actually is, that should clear misconceptions that men and women supposedly have different orgasms...

  Without getting graphic, yes, I've had a number of them and this was one of the things which cemented my female identity and erased my doubts once I discovered I could have them.  The feeling is completely different from anything I'd ever experienced before.  It requires that I stimulate myself differently in order to 'short-circuit' the male sexual response.  Maybe it actually does start in the mind but the end result is a totally different, wider-spread and out-of-control physical response and array of nerve sensations.  For me it is 100% real.

  This didn't occur until shortly after I'd realized my female identity and then only because I imagined being female with another female in a sexual fantasy for the very first time.  The moment I reached this understanding was as thoroughly mind-blowing as my first full-body female orgasm.

Not entirely sure what you mean by "female orgasm"; You might have to operationally define that for us. You could be talking about any number of things really, but given that you put this in the "Androgyne" forum rather than the "transgender (general)" or MtF/FtM ones, I'm willing to bet you might have had female-bodied/mostly female-leaning genderqueer individuals in mind. And even then, there are several different ways to achieve orgasm even among those with XX chromosomes, so I'm STILL not entirely sure what you mean.

I am XX pre-anything, and yes, I have had several orgasms before since my first accidentally-achieved one about five to six years ago, all self-brought. Although probably 90% of those have been achieved by external stimulation alone, and not a single one has been from solely penetration; I've actually found that it is impossible for me to orgasm via solely penetration. Most of that 10% came from a stage early in my sexual self discovery where I felt incompetent and needed to "practice" in order to "prepare" myself for future sexual partners, and so I forced myself to use toys, even if the same result could have been achieved with just a rag (since socks don't fit me, obviously) and could have in some cases had less unpleasant side effects. My results have varied before: Sometimes the toys actually add something that I wouldn't have gotten from external alone, and sometimes they just freak me the heck out and I "nope" too hard at even the idea of it to try. Having paid attention recently, I really do think it is connected closely to my identity trends. I find I'm more open to using toys when I'm also more open to presenting in a feminine way in public. I also don't really consider it, and if I do the idea is just "meh, why not" or "I'm too lazy", when I feel more comfortable presenting more neutrally in public. But when I really want to present in a more masculine way in public, usually, I won't even entertain the idea for a second. In those cases I just do my thing the way any cis guy would; the only difference being I have much less to grab at.

So for me, the answer is yes and no; it really depends on how I'm feeling at the time as to whether or not I'm up for orgasming via "female" methods.

Quote from: Mermaid on May 04, 2014, 10:21:24 PM
The "female orgasm" is a myth. Orgasms start in the brain, at exactly the same place for both men and women.

Mermaid, I really don't think it's a myth.

Orgasms before HRT and Orgasms after HRT feel totally different to me. I suspect there are other people who've had the same experience.

True, they both start in the brain, but is it possible that your hormonal makeup has an impact on how an orgasm is experienced?

Or being on the hormones you perceive to be right for yourself make you appreciate pleasure from your body more. Seems like a mental thing, still... I dunno, male and female parts are made of the same stuff, just shaped different. Women orgasming was never required by nature... Females report most sensivity in their clitoris, which is a micro-penis of sorts and totally useless as far as reproduction goes, it's just something that's left there, undeveloped.

With this in mind, I find it hard to believe that "better orgasms" can be achieved with a non-functional penis and not with a proper one...

I never had a full-body orgasm that curled my toes and made me scream until HRT.  Before it was more like "pop goes the weasel" and "wham-bam thank you ma'am".  So much better now.

I'm with Jill on this one. Before HRT the orgasm and the focus was focused in one spot and once the weasel popped it was all over with. Now the feeling runs all over me and getting there takes an entirely different route.

I am AMAB and have not taken hormones - I have had what seems to match the description of "female" orgasms; full body orgasms that come in waves and can leave me shivering for ages afterwards - very slow stroking, edging and anal stimulation help bring this about.  I am sure that hormones play a part in the kind of orgasms people experience; but also I think there are cultural expectations for males to either have very fast and energetic sex or to remain 'in control' and focus on not coming to give pleasure to their partner, and I think both of these are not conducive to the full body "female" orgasm.

Quote from: Mermaid on May 05, 2014, 03:02:31 PM
Or being on the hormones you perceive to be right for yourself make you appreciate pleasure from your body more. Seems like a mental thing, still... I dunno, male and female parts are made of the same stuff, just shaped different. Women orgasming was never required by nature... Females report most sensivity in their clitoris, which is a micro-penis of sorts and totally useless as far as reproduction goes, it's just something that's left there, undeveloped.

With this in mind, I find it hard to believe that "better orgasms" can be achieved with a non-functional penis and not with a proper one...

I can't really say anything for sure because I've never experienced an orgasm with a functional penis but I am pretty sure I remember learning that the smaller bits have double the nerve endings? So maybe that's something they do with SRS too, I don't actually know much at all about that though.

And I would disagree that it's not required by nature. Think about it... if both mates aren't getting some kind of reward out of it, then why (besides evolutionary success) would they even WANT to choose a mate? They could just hunt food and sleep their whole life and never mate at all. Especially since in most species it's the females that pick their mates. I know that's what I'd do if I was an animal and I got absolutely nothing out of mating. :T If anything, it kinda makes sense that female orgasms would be better, but out of curiosity's sake I actually would like to hear some testimony from the other side of the post-op pond

Quote from: saint on May 05, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
I am AMAB and have not taken hormones - I have had what seems to match the description of "female" orgasms; full body orgasms that come in waves and can leave me shivering for ages afterwards - very slow stroking, edging and anal stimulation help bring this about.  I am sure that hormones play a part in the kind of orgasms people experience; but also I think there are cultural expectations for males to either have very fast and energetic sex or to remain 'in control' and focus on not coming to give pleasure to their partner, and I think both of these are not conducive to the full body "female" orgasm.

Repeating this because it's a good point. Although on the other hand, women are often shamed for their sexuality, which is why it's hard for a lot of women to have orgasms (let alone multiple orgasms), so theoretically that'd apply to them too?

Maybe part of the deal with why female orgasms are so highly thought of is because they're more rare/require more effort and therefore are more exciting whereas male orgasms are more common and nothing that anybody kicks up a fuss about and therefore less exciting?

I think it might have something to do with male biology on T. Mine are pretty much the same before and after T. But I don't ejaculate. So I don't have to wait too long for another one. This is why women are more likely to have multiples I think.

Anyway, I don't think anyone will ever really be able to compare. Even with genital surgery, the structures aren't going to be the same. I think the internal structures also play a part. I can feel my uterus during orgasm.

As far as the female orgasm being necessary - I've heard theories that the female orgasm is harder to achieve for a reason. One is that she will be more likely to want to settle down with a patient partner. Not sure if I buy that one or not.

I'm post-op and orgasms still feel the same to me...

I always find that division people make really confusing. Orgasm is an event that occurs in the brain, and then spreads to other parts of the body. We simply use certain parts of our body as triggers for that event. And certain people experience that event in somewhat different ways, or have different triggers, or whatever. I would suggest learning something about your sexual biology before assuming the difference is gendered.

Quote from: FA on May 06, 2014, 08:28:45 AM
I think it might have something to do with male biology on T. Mine are pretty much the same before and after T. But I don't ejaculate. So I don't have to wait too long for another one. This is why women are more likely to have multiples I think.

Nope. It's the quantity of erectile tissue. Erectile tissue fills with blood when stimulated. You have to wait for the blood to exit the genitals before they can be used to stimulate another orgasm with any degree of comfort. For penises that can easily mean half an hour or so. Whereas for some clits it can be as little as a minute.

People with penises are able to achieve multiple orgasms by using other stimulation points.

Many years ago I had read an article about male extended orgasms.
The girlfriend I had at the time had an idea about this.
Between the two of us, sure they could be extended and over time the intensity went up.
But comparing notes, so to speak, they didn't add up as the same. Close though.
So it's something that as time went on, it just became the normal to have an extended orgasm.

Started low dose HRT and they changed into a more intensive overall body kind.
But I do think a lot of that is just the idea that comes along with so many other thoughts when using low dose.
It started with spiro, and then I added E patches not to long afterwards.
Again there seemed to be a difference. But again, I think it's mostly just how my thinking has changed.
Low dose let me quiet myself, the noise, long enough to collect my thoughts in a way that is comfortable.
So having a different orgasm I think is a part of that as well. Less noise, able to think about a better orgasm.
But there are times that just out of the blue, or maybe I was thinking about something and wasn't paying attention and wham.
Like momentarily entire body sensation very much like an orgasm, but just for a moment, a couple seconds.
Kind of immobilizes me when it happens, but nobody has asked what just happened.
I might have to pause if walking or ask someone to repeat what they just said, lol.
It's a hard thing to quantify, as everyone has a different orgasm, more or less.
I think males can and should learn to extend them if they can, but I also don't think it's the same as a female orgasm.
But overall, low dose HRT changed something for the better.
Just what the mechanism is, I don't want to find out and ruin what is a very nice feeling.
Ativan

My shrink said to me - well how would you know, really?  Has a point there

HRT changed the deal for me big time.  Different active nerve centers.  Two ways to achieve, always in fantasy with a male partner and as totally female physically, though preop, front stimulation there

But if penetrated, its a whole different ballgame... pardon the verbage... but when I let go, its all girl and very, very deep.

Big difference on estrogen, right from the start.  Not mental for me, very physical, got very girl.

Physically I am TS female anyway, andro parts are relational or in  the spiritual centers, not sexual, thats all transwoman, and everything seems to be in flux at the moment.