That is the same for GGs.
Just skillful makeup also can generate dramatic difference.
Some comparison photos of Miss Korea candidates in 2013, which were revealed by Chinese Internet media:

http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=tmdwls0418&logNo=80189210776&redirect=Dlog&widgetTypeCall=true

barbie~~

Quote from: Dahlia on May 15, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
She looks terrible plastic...especially in the un-photoshopped pic.

She'll need A LOT of photoshopping when she grows older..people who had that kind of plastic surgery when relatively young grow older in a horrible way.

When her skin thins when growing older the subdermal scars are gonna show, when growing older your jaws shrinks (even further)  etcetc.

Not a pretty future for her.

I think is bit cruel to say that.... surely this should be a positive site and not put others down....

I agree she looks a bit over the top and like she's had much work done. I don't think it looks good past a certain point. But I feel sorry for women (cis and trans) who resort to this. Beauty culture is so insidious and so damaging. And perhaps even moreso for trans women because it's hard to tell the line between undoing masculinization and doing too much. I'm sure she was a beautiful girl before all the work and photoshop. 

Quote from: FA on May 16, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
I agree she looks a bit over the top and like she's had much work done. I don't think it looks good past a certain point. But I feel sorry for women (cis and trans) who resort to this. Beauty culture is so insidious and so damaging. And perhaps even moreso for trans women because it's hard to tell the line between undoing masculinization and doing too much. I'm sure she was a beautiful girl before all the work and photoshop. 

Why again do I just want to kick Hugh Hefner square in the nuts for propagating unrealistic standards for both men and women?

Quote from: Jill F on May 16, 2014, 07:06:23 PM

Quote from: FA on May 16, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
I agree she looks a bit over the top and like she's had much work done. I don't think it looks good past a certain point. But I feel sorry for women (cis and trans) who resort to this. Beauty culture is so insidious and so damaging. And perhaps even moreso for trans women because it's hard to tell the line between undoing masculinization and doing too much. I'm sure she was a beautiful girl before all the work and photoshop. 

Why again do I just want to kick Hugh Hefner square in the nuts for propagating unrealistic standards for both men and women?

Yeah, I used to like Playboy, but now it's so photoshopped and with bony girls with huge fake balloons... And the kicker is that people interested want to see women's bodies - not a surgeon's or photoshopper's work.  This focus on bodily perfection has absolutely ruined everything. A woman's body, however beautiful, is flesh. And beautiful before the boob jobs, nose jobs, etc and photoshop. But we never see it anymore.

Quote from: FA on May 16, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
Why again do I just want to kick Hugh Hefner square in the nuts for propagating unrealistic standards for both men and women?


Yeah, I used to like Playboy, but now it's so photoshopped and with bony girls with huge fake balloons... And the kicker is that people interested want to see women's bodies - not a surgeon's or photoshopper's work.  This focus on bodily perfection has absolutely ruined everything. A woman's body, however beautiful, is flesh. And beautiful before the boob jobs, nose jobs, etc and photoshop. But we never see it anymore.

I remember Playboy in the 70s and 80s.  Still tacky as all hell, but at least it was better than it is today.  I was never one for porn, mind you, but I guess Playboy was more umm, tasteful than any other mag out there and it probably still is (IDK- haven't actually seen one in 10+ years).  At least the women looked like real women back in the day.  I mean why even bother using real models anymore when you can approximate "perfection" better with a computer?  I also hate the message it sends to men, where "real men" are supposed to be sleeping with women that look like that, and sometimes having several at once, and if you're not and don't have a huge c*ck or a sh*tload of money like Hugh, well, you are somehow just less of a man.

FU Hugh, Larry Flynt and the rest of you.  You may have got my friends' money at one time or another, but you never got mine.

Quote from: Jill F on May 16, 2014, 08:02:47 PM
I remember Playboy in the 70s and 80s.  Still tacky as all hell, but at least it was better than it is today.  I was never one for porn, mind you, but I guess Playboy was more umm, tasteful than any other mag out there and it probably still is (IDK- haven't actually seen one in 10+ years).  At least the women looked like real women back in the day.  I mean why even bother using real models anymore when you can approximate "perfection" better with a computer?  I also hate the message it sends to men, where "real men" are supposed to be sleeping with women that look like that, and sometimes having several at once, and if you're not and don't have a huge c*ck or a sh*tload of money like Hugh, well, you are somehow just less of a man.

FU Hugh, Larry Flynt and the rest of you.  You may have got my friends' money at one time or another, but you never got mine.

Waaaaa Hahaha  kick some A$$ there Jill baby!

Quote from: Jill F on May 16, 2014, 07:06:23 PM
Why again do I just want to kick Hugh Hefner square in the nuts for propagating unrealistic standards for both men and women?

He's a sleazy grot no doubt about it, but very tame compared to some of the other purveyors of porn out there that now peddle much, much worse.

And it's not like porn didn't exist before Hefner, although he commodified it. So kick away, Jill... kick all you want!

Quote from: FA on May 16, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
Why again do I just want to kick Hugh Hefner square in the nuts for propagating unrealistic standards for both men and women?


Yeah, I used to like Playboy, but now it's so photoshopped and with bony girls with huge fake balloons... And the kicker is that people interested want to see women's bodies - not a surgeon's or photoshopper's work.  This focus on bodily perfection has absolutely ruined everything. A woman's body, however beautiful, is flesh. And beautiful before the boob jobs, nose jobs, etc and photoshop. But we never see it anymore.

Floatation devices! 

Yes, this ladies name is Yasmine Petty. She is, to be honest striking. I actually messaged her when I was 17 (very nice) she had "The Works" with Dr.  Ousterhout. One of the ladies who really inspired me to go to Dr. O (Lynn Conway, Andrea James, Donna Rose etc.). I have heard of various girls becoming models after having FFS with Dr. O (I'm not kidding). Just In my opinion, I think she may have had additional cosmetic procedures performed after FFS with Dr. O

Oh and just to remind everyone it's not cute to put down other girls. We all have unique journeys and transitions . If she's more comfortable in her identity now, Who is anyone else to judge?

Her figure is flawless and its what I would like but i dont think I would go that far and change so much of my facial features If this lady is happy then more power to her. Wish i could afford a body like that

Quote from: Sophiabutterfly09 on May 20, 2014, 03:30:23 AM
Oh and just to remind everyone it's not cute to put down other girls. We all have unique journeys and transitions . If she's more comfortable in her identity now, Who is anyone else to judge?

I couldn't of said it better myself, beauty is in the eue of the beholder

I made this thread so that people could give their views purely on her ffs result.

Except people choose to find the WORST photo of this girl and criticise her, all ill say is if you look at her instagram I posted in my first post, you will realise she isn't actually REALLY photoshopped as there are videos etc. The girls who criticised her are Jealous, i just wanted advice and opinions on how she feminized her face that much. Yes there are some aspect of it which some may not like but i think the bone work done to her face is exceptionally good.

Either way if she looks like a franken hooker or whatever morbid things you said, that doesn't take away from the fact we are all trans and we should support eachother, society tells us we are disgusting as it is, never mind each other, THIS IS A PLASTIC SURGERY FORUM, some results on here are underdone and overdone, why are people being negative towards this girl, after all she just went under the knife, like most others will do or have done on this forum, why is that such a bad thing?

I respect her and admire her for achieving such beauty and i also respect her for going against society, and going on a such a courageous journey.

Yeah, I do too, she is frickin gorgeous! On the other hand I would be considered a mud hen next to her, but there is no way I could ever afford the fine tuning she has probably been through.

its sad to hear transgendered bashing other transgendered because they choose to look a certain way. I am friends with her on Facebook and she is gorgeous. If somebody chooses to look a certain way and that makes them happy, then thats the only thing that matters. Its funny to hear the ladies here bashing her and her looks because all the TS that looks like her bashes you about your looks, no disrespect. And I reply to them the same way that I do here; to each their own.

all this to say that we should accept all transgender people no matter what they decide to look like and support eachother. This journey is not easy, help and support would be much better than bashing.

Quote from: shedevilcanada on May 21, 2014, 05:10:34 PM
its sad to hear transgendered bashing other transgendered because they choose to look a certain way. I am friends with her on Facebook and she is gorgeous. If somebody chooses to look a certain way and that makes them happy, then thats the only thing that matters. Its funny to hear the ladies here bashing her and her looks because all the TS that looks like her bashes you about your looks, no disrespect. And I reply to them the same way that I do here; to each their own.

all this to say that we should accept all transgender people no matter what they decide to look like and support eachother. This journey is not easy, help and support would be much better than bashing.

No doubt there is a little envy, it's quite common among women when a really stunning woman enters the room so nothing to get too excited about here hon. Then again not everyone has the resources or the inclination to go through all that she must have to look beautiful, others would prefer to blend in with the average cis female world and draw less attention to themselves.

Quote from: Shantel on May 21, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
No doubt there is a little envy, it's quite common among women when a really stunning woman enters the room so nothing to get too excited about here hon. Then again not everyone has the resources or the inclination to go through all that she must have to look beautiful, others would prefer to blend in with the average cis female world and draw less attention to themselves.

Exactly that is was more or less my point i was trying to make if she didnt go overboard with all the surgery she would have blended in perfectly with cis woman but now she just looks like caricature( i also saw a couple of clips of her and she acts way over the top that also doesnt help you when you try to pass) and will get get clocked most of the the time.I am not jealous of her at all, yes i want plastic surgery but not to look plastic and fake but look like a like say my sister or niece.I just dont understand why you should go through all the trouble of beeing a transgender and everything that comes with that and you have the chance to blend in, you just have to go over the top.And yes she can do whatever she wants but this is just my opnion

Quote from: sh1982 on May 22, 2014, 08:27:59 AM
Exactly that is was more or less my point i was trying to make if she didnt go overboard with all the surgery she would have blended in perfectly with cis woman but now she just looks like caricature( i also saw a couple of clips of her and she acts way over the top that also doesnt help you when you try to pass) and will get get clocked most of the the time.I am not jealous of her at all, yes i want plastic surgery but not to look plastic and fake but look like a like say my sister or niece.I just dont understand why you should go through all the trouble of beeing a transgender and everything that comes with that and you have the chance to blend in, you just have to go over the top.And yes she can do whatever she wants but this is just my opnion

Yes I get that and am more in your corner with that line of thought, but she's probably the opposite extreme of myself who is content with androgyny and will obviously never pass as it has never been important to me to blend like so many trans women are so driven to achieve. Obviously she likes the notoriety and like myself there is room in the transgender world for both extremes. I do appreciate your thoughts though because what you are saying is one of the biggest concerns for most trans women. The important point here not to be missed is that we needn't take offense at those who don't meet our personal criteria, because they really don't reflect our own unique individual values.

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Quote from: sh1982 on May 22, 2014, 08:27:59 AM
Exactly that is was more or less my point i was trying to make if she didnt go overboard with all the surgery she would have blended in perfectly with cis woman but now she just looks like caricature( i also saw a couple of clips of her and she acts way over the top that also doesnt help you when you try to pass) and will get get clocked most of the the time.I am not jealous of her at all, yes i want plastic surgery but not to look plastic and fake but look like a like say my sister or niece.I just dont understand why you should go through all the trouble of beeing a transgender and everything that comes with that and you have the chance to blend in, you just have to go over the top.And yes she can do whatever she wants but this is just my opnion

SORRY BUT YOU ARE SO NAIVE AND THICK. I cannot believe what your saying. Trans women are allowed to be humans, she has a personality and should be allowed to express herself, like say kim kardashian, trans women are women, women DO NOT all BLEND IN...WE SOMETIMES ARE OBNOXIOUS AND "OUT THERE" get what im saying? Trans women should not have to sacrifice having a personality... hahaha

Even if your sooooo against trans women who choose to be public figures etc etc instead of taking a hiatus in life, you do not need to express your hate in your previous posts, if you were happy enough with your own life you wouldn't need to put others down.

Basically trans people should be free to look and act how they want whether that's plastic, obnoxiously behaved, or just blend in. Again the same way women can choose who they want to be.