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Weight loss after starting T = nothing

Started by Samuel, May 16, 2014, 09:07:17 AM

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Hex

Not stupid at all. It really boils down to if your mental state can handle the coming off ect. Of course changes will slow down/stop, some will stay and so on. As far as weight loss goes, it boils into individuals metabolisms and metabolic rates ect. You could try and speak with a nutritionist first before getting off T to see if they could provide you with information on how to start a balanced food intake that would help speed up your metabolism so you start seeing some physical results a bit faster.
It never hurts to ask ya know? And even better, never hurts to give something a try either. I'd give yourself another solid month. 4 weeks, modified diet, keep up the exercise and strength and see where you are. If in a month's time you still don't see any loss then it would be a question of stopping the T and trying a different route. And the only reason I say wait the four weeks is really because T gives you that extra energy as well to push yourself and so on. But I also understand your concerns with health as well. So yeah, my advice is give it 4 weeks and do a reassessment then.
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Adam (birkin)

In my personal experience, my metabolism went up to a male range after maybe...4 or 5 months on T. For some, it could happen even sooner. That means that 1300 calories is WAY too low, and could easily end up making your body want to hold on to weight. Even for a female metabolism, over 200 lbs, 1300 is pushing it. 1200 is the lowest and that's for people with female metabolisms who maybe only have like 10-20 lbs to lose. People with male metabolisms, especially at those initially heavier weights, just can't subsist on that.

A lot of people find that when they hit a plateau, they often break it after, or even during, a week or so of maintenance calories. It seems counterproductive as the standard formula is less calories = more weight loss, but it's often not that simple, especially after sustaining a weight loss effort for a while.

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Kreuzfidel

Quote from: birkin on May 18, 2014, 04:05:19 AM
In my personal experience, my metabolism went up to a male range after maybe...4 or 5 months on T. For some, it could happen even sooner. That means that 1300 calories is WAY too low, and could easily end up making your body want to hold on to weight. Even for a female metabolism, over 200 lbs, 1300 is pushing it. 1200 is the lowest and that's for people with female metabolisms who maybe only have like 10-20 lbs to lose. People with male metabolisms, especially at those initially heavier weights, just can't subsist on that.

A lot of people find that when they hit a plateau, they often break it after, or even during, a week or so of maintenance calories. It seems counterproductive as the standard formula is less calories = more weight loss, but it's often not that simple, especially after sustaining a weight loss effort for a while.

Yeah, I second this. 

I'd consider your diet and how many meals per day you're eating.
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Tysilio

My nephew just sent this article around the family (we're pretty major foodies) -- it's an interesting take on how obesity and metabolism really work; among other things, it implies that counting calories isn't that useful.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/opinion/sunday/always-hungry-heres-why.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0
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ChrisRokk

What Birkin said is great advice.  1300 kcal a day is very low.  I have heard of people having success with both weight loss or weight gain by returning to a week of normal eating, then going back at it hard.

Also, hats off to you for selecting a fun, consistent workout program and staying on it.  Things like hiking and yoga are easy to stick to in the long term since they are enjoyable.  Something that is important to keep in mind when it comes to diet as well is, "Can I sustain this for a very long time without losing my sanity?" 

Another trick is make it where you do not even notice you are exercising because your life requires it.  I know this is not possible for everyone, but using your car less (I recently sold my car, and most people where I live think that's completely insane, but it will keep you in great shape), doing a ton of physical chores if you have a yard you can mow, maybe plant some trees or start a garden that you will have to constantly maintain, maybe get rid of your television if you have one, maybe pick up a side job for extra cash that involves some physical activity, etc.  This way, you are exercising a ton on top of your intentional exercise.  Unfortunately, sometimes even daily cardio does not help much if you have a desk job.  Supposedly exercise does not completely offset time spent sitting. http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/172/4/419.short
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Samuel

I do have a desk job and with two little kids I can't ditch the car. But about 9 months ago I started standing to work, so I spend abt 2 actual hours sitting, and all the rest standing. That was the best I could do to affect that. And when I do sit, it's on an exercise ball.

I get lots of funny looks.
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ChrisRokk

That's a really good idea! Unfortunately I think a lot of healthy habits make people look at you funny.
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BeefxCake

you know T doesn't always make you lose weight.

I know i started T in Febuary and I actually went up 20 lbs.

but i also grew an inch and I don't look 20 lbs heavier so i know some of it is muscle too.

try not to think too hard about the number on the scale, and more of what you see in the mirror. are you exercising, then hey probably the weight your losing in fat is being gained back in muscle, which isn't bad at all. if you feel you look exactly the same as before, perhaps cut sugars more.

sugar is actually the main reason it's hard to lose fats and whatnot i've heard. it sticks with you and is harder to get rid of.
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Rossiter

Also something to keep in mind is that starting t often makes people retain more water weight at first. For someone who's recently started t it could definitely be that, in which case it'll go away on its own eventually. When I first started t I jumped up like 15 pounds in the first 3 months, and maybe a little was muscle but certainly not all of it. That peaked at 3 months and then I started slowly losing weight (bearing in mind that I was not eating or exercising any differently than before). It's different for everyone but that kind of thing isn't uncommon. But I'd suggest talking to your doctor if you're concerned.
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