->-bleeped-<- i hope I become better looking as a dude lol but i think like everyone says its about confidence, the more confident you become, better looking you portray yourself to others and yourself

I never ever thought I'd be posting in this thread. But as my body continues to change now at a little over 4 months and 3 weeks in, I notice I'm getting a lot more attention from guys than I used to. I'm getting doors opened for me, a lot more attention in places I never had before. Just last week I had a guy offer to pump my gas for me, and I was a little short at the checkout counter by nearly $5. for my groceries, and two gentlemen behind me offered the clerk the amount I needed. These are just a few examples of attention that's going to take me some getting used to from men. Especially since I'm only attracted to girls. My SO thinks this is funny when it happens and she laughs at my awkwardness with it.

Ally

I'll take gorgeous.

Gorgeous = More passable = less BS in life = better life = win.


-AM

It's a foreign, almost disgusting feel to see who I was. I wasn't even a bad person on the inside, but it's kinda embarrassing to see my old pictures.

Quote from: Androgynous_Machine on May 25, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
I'll take gorgeous.

Gorgeous = More passable = less BS in life = better life = win.

I disagree. Some of the prettiest transgender women do not pass because they act like gay men. Plus, the amount of BS you experience relates to your likability, not passability. If 2 trans women walk into a bar and have great confidence and are fun, they'll probably be loved there regardless of looks. Take those same exact women and make them meek or arrogant, and people will give them a hard time.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 25, 2014, 07:21:20 PM

I disagree. Some of the prettiest transgender women do not pass because they act like gay men. Plus, the amount of BS you experience relates to your likability, not passability. If 2 trans women walk into a bar and have great confidence and are fun, they'll probably be loved there regardless of looks. Take those same exact women and make them meek or arrogant, and people will give them a hard time.

I'm speaking from my own experience, mileage may vary, but I'm in a weird spot in my transistion where sometimes I'm clocked on my less gorgeous days and completely passable on my more gorgeous days (I'm still learning the nuances of make up so sometimes I don't do such a good job).

I will say, from my own experience, the better I look the more passable I am.  Being passable, if not downright gorgeous, leads to far-superior days to those when I'm clockable.

Feel free to disagree, but if you gave me a choice between being naturally drop-dead gorgeous, and pretty much anything else, I would take it in a heartbeat.  This is a conviction I hold in practicality and not with vain.

-AM

Quote from: Androgynous_Machine on May 25, 2014, 07:29:09 PM
Feel free to disagree, but if you gave me a choice between being naturally drop-dead gorgeous, and pretty much anything else, I would take it in a heartbeat.  This is a conviction I hold in practicality and not with vain.

Well, duh who wouldn't! And it's inherently easier when you pass than it is when you're not. I was just making a point that beauty doesn't define passability and personality trumps everything.

Quote from: Evelyn K on May 25, 2014, 05:03:47 AM
(update)

Wow time really went by fast since my posting this 6 weeks ago. The reason why I'm returning to this thread was because for the first time since then, tonight, I cross dressed again.

My dark brown hair is longer down to my sternum, straight with a slight curl towards the ends. My face is really softening. My upper body musculature has decreased. The heels I wore before now fit looser, the back strap needs tightening. So my feet are definitely shrinking. And I have small feet! (5 mens!) I put on some lipstick, some eye liner and flipped my hair around my neck.

As I peered in the mirror - you now that "twilight zone" feeling you get when you cannot believe what you are seeing?

Yep.

Similar to what this person might be thinking.

I am so turning into a woman. My life is going to change. Like wow. I am sort of nervous, because things are gettin' real...this is now about 3-months in...

Size 5 feet lol. oops, I meant size 7. 

Let me correct that!

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 25, 2014, 07:21:20 PM
I disagree. Some of the prettiest transgender women do not pass because they act like gay men.

^^ I know right? Makes me want to gag....

LOL ... I'm glad they're in the public eye. That just means nobody suspects the ones that actually act like something other than a gay male.

Ya know I have a gay friend that lives on Bourbon Street. He told me about a trans friend he had once and he explicitly told him "You are not a girl. You're a gay guy faking it". He then explicitly told me "Now my pretty, (he's French, and no I'm not BS'ing, he says it just like that with the thick Parisian accent) you are all woman. You do not act like a gay man. You are being who you are suppose to be and I adore that! You're the only ->-bleeped-<- (I don't mind the pejorative if the context is amiable) I have ever known that I can say that about"

Slightly confused by the 'gay man' thing. What particular things are we talking about?

Quote from: Goldfish on May 25, 2014, 09:25:41 PM
Slightly confused by the 'gay man' thing. What particular things are we talking about?

There are transgender people that are well known who act very notably like gay men (Well.. the one that comes to mind is Gigi "Gorgeous"). Anybody who has been involved in gay culture would quickly relate that she is not passable due simply to how she acts.

I'd havta agree with this assessment. Her presentation is just too brash and ostensible.

Ostensible in the context of his transdom. Being a loud, flamboyant and exaggerated 'woman' with a nickname like "Gigi Gorgeous" is ironically self-parodying. His act even feels consciously artificial irrespective of his surgeries and new hair style. If you've seen his early videos, he even professes to being gay. He acted gay with all the gay tropes and stereotypes. Then he has a YouTube marketing epiphany and decides to transition and spin it all around by wanting to be a natural invoking woman?

I don't really have anything against that. Only thing is, as noted before - "acting very notably gay" - his personality didn't transition with him.

 

I'll lock this thread if it turns into a spat. Suggest everyone walks away, go read the bad joke thread or something.

Quote from: kate on May 26, 2014, 04:33:44 AM
So what your saying is women can't be brash and those that do are ostensible?
To your friend alainaluvsu, i would of told him to keep his opinions to himself. Who do you people think you are telling people who is and who isn't transgender, who is 'faking it'. Just wow.

Without opinions, nobody knows the truth.

Oh, and all the *hate*? I think you're misinterpreting emotion. I nothing her. Couldn't care less. I'm just pointing out the obvious. Thanks for smiting me, for giving my own observation and relaying my experience? Wonderful support you have there. A support group can go nowhere without recognizing reality. Remember that.