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so what do you think, a million trans march to the washingtion monument

Started by stephaniec, May 31, 2014, 11:38:36 AM

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stephaniec

so what are the chances  of a million or 700,000 thousand transgender march to Washington. that's if you can get enough of that number to respond. I think it would surely raise the awareness of the trans culture to the general public and to politicians. The transgender culture has been too much of a freakish oddity for too long we need to approach normality.
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LordKAT

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Heather

They're is so many reasons why that is never going to happen. 
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Evelyn K

Are there really 700,000 of us? I've wondered about this yesterday. Let's say just less than 2% of 700,000 was a member here on Susans. That's 14,000 members!

Currently Susans has (11655 total members)

Where is everybody? ;D

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Miharu Barbie

Set up a an eight ball pool tournament at the Washington Monument and I'll be there.   :)
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stephaniec

Quote from: Heather on May 31, 2014, 12:48:26 PM
They're is so many reasons why that is never going to happen.
I don't know , it would be one heck  of an educational moment in the history of the trans culture. I agree it's not going to happen but all the positive  CNN coverage of the event and the educational opportunities to show we are not all prostitutes standing on street corners not that there is any thing really wrong with that choice of profession. Just like pride day it would be an incredible event
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stephaniec

Quote from: Evelyn K on May 31, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
Are there really 700,000 of us? I've wondered about this yesterday. Let's say just less than 2% of 700,000 was a member here on Susans. That's 14,000 members!

Currently Susans has (11655 total members)

Where is everybody? ;D
a UCLA study came up with that figure
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Heather

Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
I don't know , it would be one heck  of an educational moment in the history of the trans culture. I agree it's not going to happen but all the positive  CNN coverage of the event and the educational opportunities to show we are not all prostitutes standing on street corners not that there is any thing really wrong with that choice of profession. Just like pride day it would be an incredible event
Well the main problem would be numbers. They're is just not that many of us.  From best I can tell those of of us that actually transition is a very small group even if you gathered all of us I doubt you could get even above 50,000. Another reason is I've noticed a large portion of the trans community are introverts so they are less likely to speak up and be heard. And another thing is once you get to a certain point in your transition you just want to move on with your life. So I doubt you would get a lot people who have been transitioned a long time to show up.
Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 01:15:13 PM
a UCLA study came up with that figure
That's because they have lumped several very different groups together. Those that actually transition are very very rare.
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stephaniec

well, they talk about the numbers who consider themselves transgender. you wouldn't need to be totally transitional to join in. again the likely hood of success is extremely problematic ,but if the numbers could be generated it would make a dent in the perception problem
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Androgynous_Machine

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stephaniec

It would be a great way to me other transgender, sitting  on the Washington mall barbecuing hamburgers and shrimp that's if your allowed to do that on the mall PS just found out can't have fires on the national mall have to go with picnic baskets
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Androgynous_Machine

Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
It would be a great way to me other transgender, sitting  on the Washington mall barbequing hamburgers and shrimp that's if your allowed to do that on the mall

Let's do this steph :D

I'll even put on my old uniform ;0)

-AM
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stephaniec

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Olivia P

Quote from: Heather on May 31, 2014, 12:48:26 PM
They're is so many reasons why that is never going to happen. 

With that attitude no it wont.

However if anyone here is serious about increasing our equality it is extremely important to constantly push, small steps lead to huge things, what may start out as 100 people protesting, through social networking and community activities can easily grow into a global event.

If the trans community is serious about being treated as equal human beings, its more important than ever for us to get together socially and forge strong cultural bonds, create a international community.

Every other minority that has risen to fight against the oppression they face didnt get there through giving up before they even started because of their chances of success. If you are truly passionate about your right to having equal human rights, even if you dont see the day when the big breakthrough happens, it is so important to contribute what you can, as every single moment given collects up to an entire movement that changes the course of history forever.
To be beautiful means to be yourself. You don't need to be accepted by others. You need to accept yourself. - Thích Nhất Hạnh
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Androgynous_Machine

Quote from: Olivia P on May 31, 2014, 03:19:25 PM
With that attitude no it wont.

However if anyone here is serious about increasing our equality it is extremely important to constantly push, small steps lead to huge things, what may start out as 100 people protesting, through social networking and community activities can easily grow into a global event.

If the trans community is serious about being treated as equal human beings, its more important than ever for us to get together socially and forge strong cultural bonds, create a international community.

Every other minority that has risen to fight against the oppression they face didnt get there through giving up before they even started because of their chances of success.

This x10,000

-AM
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Ltl89

I totally support this, but I would be skeptical about being in it.  I sort of hope to be stealth in the future, and wouldn't want to march if everyone in it was trans as it gives it away.  If it were inclusive and had a lot of cis marchers, then I would definitely  consider it.  To be honest, that's probably what would happen as we are a very small group and most are cautious about being public about their transition, including myself.  While I realize I'll probably be judged for that mindset, my future happiness and ability to keep my medical history private is my first concern.  I'm all for signing petitions and lobbying politicians to support legislation in our favor, but I'm not interested in outing myself and would be cautious before marching.  Even though I have limitations, I do what I can in my own way.   
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defective snowflake

Its a nice idea, but many wouldn't be able to do it due to distance, costs, and a certain amount of apathy towards their own community as well. Not to mention the ones that wouldn't want to risk outing themselves.


I've been to Washington before, it was for a small group of trans to get together and have a big party. Set up by a friend and I went up and stayed at their place a few days for it. Oddly enough, it was a visit to an all night eatery there that I first ever got called beautiful by a sober guy. Talk about making someone uncomfortable...
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stephaniec

Quote from: learningtolive on May 31, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
I totally support this, but I would be skeptical about being in it.  I sort of hope to be stealth in the future, and wouldn't want to march if everyone in it was trans as it gives it away.  If it were inclusive and had a lot of cis marchers, then I would definitely  consider it.  To be honest, that's probably what would happen as we are a very small group and most are cautious about being public about their transition, including myself.  While I realize I'll probably be judged for that mindset, my future happiness and ability to keep my medical history private is my first concern.  I'm all for signing petitions and lobbying politicians to support legislation in our favor, but I'm not interested in outing myself and would be cautious before marching.  Even though I have limitations, I do what I can in my own way.   
I doubt you would have any fear of being seen as anybody but a humanitarian giving support to a cause. I'm sure a lot of people would just join in for support and the experience
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Ltl89

Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
I doubt you would have any fear of being seen as anybody but a humanitarian giving support to a cause. I'm sure a lot of people would just join in for support and the experience

Well, when you stand out in a trans event, people are more likely to assume you are trans.  Still, I would bet the majority of people supporting the cause would be from outside the trans community as we really are a minority and most are content with living in stealth.  At the moment, though, I don't think we have enough vocal supporters for such an event.  Sad to say, but it would liekly have to be a smaller scale event at this current point in time; however, it keeps changing and getting better with time. 
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Androgynous_Machine

Quote from: learningtolive on May 31, 2014, 04:16:06 PM
Well, when you stand out in a trans event, people are more likely to assume you are trans.  Still, I would bet the majority of people supporting the cause would be from outside the trans community as we really are a minority and most are content with living in stealth.  At the moment, though, I don't think we have enough vocal supporters for such an event.  Sad to say, but it would liekly have to be a smaller scale event at this current point in time; however, it keeps changing and getting better with time.

It would have to start the same way all these things start.  First a coalition, which eventually becomes loud enough to draw support or voice from a celebrity, then it's newspapers.

-AM
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