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so what do you think, a million trans march to the washingtion monument

Started by stephaniec, May 31, 2014, 11:38:36 AM

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Androgynous_Machine

Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
Susan's then the media then the Washington monument

I live in WV so Washington DC is literally a hop, skip, and a jump away.


-AM
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stephaniec

Quote from: Androgynous_Machine on May 31, 2014, 05:45:15 PM
I live in WV so Washington DC is literally a hop, skip, and a jump away.


-AM
chartered busses , group rates. 700,000 should be able to get a good rate
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dalebert

Quote from: Evelyn K on May 31, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
Where is everybody? ;D

The trans people who I know in person aren't on here, despite me talking about this site fairly regularly including on my show. I don't get it.

Carol Chastleton

This thread certainly evoked lots of memories for me since I started transition in 1973 on the streets of DC.  It was a very different place back then.  I lived in a sketchy apartment building (now a pricey co-op) near Dupont Circle.  Back in the early 70s Georgetown was a very cool, very welcoming place to hang out for assorted misfits.  There were street musicians, artists, wild & crazy queens, and a good sized group of us young party girls who simply lived our lives without reference to our birth gender.  We hung out in various cheesy bars (all gone now) and also in some of the big clubs in the horrible neighborhoods on the waterfront in SW DC.  We were often denied entry to those clubs (collateral damage due to their anti-drag policy) but once in awhile we got in.  Ironically, a hostess/waitress at one of those clubs was a glamourous transwoman named Dee Dee who was kind of a local celebrity and one of my early mentors and trans friends. 

On my last visit to DC a few months ago I was amazed to find that Wisconsin Avenue in Georgetown now looks more like Rodeo Drive than Haight-Ashbury and seedy ol' New York Avenue where all the strip joints used to be (including one where the staff and most of the female customers were transwomen) is now lined with gleaming office towers.  Then again, I'm now a female executive in a high profile position and I have no doubt that my colleagues would be shocked to learn about my checkered past!

Oh well, it was quite a place to come of age back in the day and I'll always hold the memories.  Sorry to derail the thread with my nostalgic babble. 
Carol
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stephaniec

Quote from: Carol Chastleton on May 31, 2014, 06:36:59 PM
This thread certainly evoked lots of memories for me since I started transition in 1973 on the streets of DC.  It was a very different place back then.  I lived in a sketchy apartment building (now a pricey co-op) near Dupont Circle.  Back in the early 70s Georgetown was a very cool, very welcoming place to hang out for assorted misfits.  There were street musicians, artists, wild & crazy queens, and a good sized group of us young party girls who simply lived our lives without reference to our birth gender.  We hung out in various cheesy bars (all gone now) and also in some of the big clubs in the horrible neighborhoods on the waterfront in SW DC.  We were often denied entry to those clubs (collateral damage due to their anti-drag policy) but once in awhile we got in.  Ironically, a hostess/waitress at one of those clubs was a glamourous transwoman named Dee Dee who was kind of a local celebrity and one of my early mentors and trans friends. 

On my last visit to DC a few months ago I was amazed to find that Wisconsin Avenue in Georgetown now looks more like Rodeo Drive than Haight-Ashbury and seedy ol' New York Avenue where all the strip joints used to be (including one where the staff and most of the female customers were transwomen) is now lined with gleaming office towers.  Then again, I'm now a female executive in a high profile position and I have no doubt that my colleagues would be shocked to learn about my checkered past!

Oh well, it was quite a place to come of age back in the day and I'll always hold the memories.  Sorry to derail the thread with my nostalgic babble.
good to know
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Kylie

I would go  :). Try to make it in the spring though, I look best in spring colors......and of course the cherry blossoms
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stephaniec

Quote from: Kylie on May 31, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
I would go  :). Try to make it in the spring though, I look best in spring colors......and of course the cherry blossoms
I like lighter dresses and no nylons
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Ms Grace

This is a good idea but there are as many hurdles inside the community (infighting, conflicts) to overcome as there are extant. Maybe a smaller number would still get the point across, ten thousand trans march, perhaps?

And there are plenty of trans people who harbour a degree of self loathing and/or fear at being trans or being seen/identified as trans. If something like you're proposing had happened even as recently as two years ago I wouldn't have attended because I was in so much denial about my trans history and identity.
Grace
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Heather

Quote from: dalebert on May 31, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
The trans people who I know in person aren't on here, despite me talking about this site fairly regularly including on my show. I don't get it.
To be honest most start off on sites like Susan's but eventually move on once they start living as themselves. To be honest I don't know why I've stuck around as long as I have? Most of the ones I know try to distance themselves from the trans community after they have they have settled down into they're new life.
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Kova V

I'm not a politically minded person. I do understand how people think though. It would definitely do well to create some awareness. This may not be the best format as historically marches are a form to express outrage, not awareness. The awareness agenda would be better served by mainstream media - the transgender girl on America's Top Model is a great example. The awareness was secondary to what the show was about and as such had a broader reach than something focused on the topic of transgender. You don't want to preach to the choir - as it were.

Well, things to be considered are as follows:
1. The number of transgender people and supporters would need to have the means to assemble, first locally.
2. The number of people would need to be substantial. This number may not need to be a million either.
3. There would have to be some coordination for getting everyone to assemble in DC - this may or may not include room and board.
4. Every group would need to make a financial goal and raise funds to bus everyone out.
5. There should be a list of things we want to make the populous aware of - the "what are you here for" question.

It is my humble opinion that until it is no longer taboo, you will never get enough pull from all the people living quiet stealthily lives. If we want to make an impact we really need to "Unite" with the other arms of the LGBT awareness machine. Don't forget, we are the T in LGBT.

Random question: Anyone going to the Gay Olympics? Next one is in the US (Cleveland), next one is in France... and yes there is a gay olympics.
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stephaniec

Quote from: Ms Grace on May 31, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
This is a good idea but there are as many hurdles inside the community (infighting, conflicts) to overcome as there are extant. Maybe a smaller number would still get the point across, ten thousand trans march, perhaps?

And there are plenty of trans people who harbour a degree of self loathing and/or fear at being trans or being seen/identified as trans. If something like you're proposing had happened even as recently as two years ago I wouldn't have attended because I was in so much denial about my trans history and identity.
well,10,000 would get media coverage and maybe President Obama would give a speech
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Kova V

Got an idea, an annual Transgender 5k through DC. Everyone loves a good 5k. Plus we/they could get sponsorship and it would become a "normalized event."

LOL, I need to keep my mouth shut or I might find myself on a comity or a board in a year.  :D
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Madi_Raye

Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
...... but all the positive  CNN coverage of the event and the educational opportunities.... Just like pride day it would be an incredible event

the media would only find the most outlandish looking... clown makeup wearing... 
and if they didn't find any there, they'd plant them...
and only show the most outlandish, embarrassing, foolish acting people to
show on t.v..
the media don't get ratings by showing the real news...
c.n.n. / h.n.n. go for ratings... just like jerry springer..
Trying to live this life without the lies..
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Kova V

Quote from: Madi_Raye on May 31, 2014, 08:37:13 PM
the media would only find the most outlandish looking... clown makeup wearing... 
and if they didn't find any there, they'd plant them...
and only show the most outlandish, embarrassing, foolish acting people to
show on t.v..
the media don't get ratings by showing the real news...
c.n.n. / h.n.n. go for ratings... just like jerry springer..

^^^
This.
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Allyda

I used to live in Washington DC in the Hilton with a view of the Capitol just above Judicial square. I think this would be a great idea, and, I'd come. As long as I had a long enough notice to scrape up the funds.

Ally :icon_flower:
Allyda
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Jill F

I'm guessing that it would unfortunately be immediately followed by the million creep march.

/snark
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MacG


Quote from: Evelyn K on May 31, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
Are there really 700,000 of us? I've wondered about this yesterday. Let's say just less than 2% of 700,000 was a member here on Susans. That's 14,000 members!

Currently Susans has (11655 total members)

Where is everybody? ;D
I know lots of trans* folks who are not members here.

Jill F

Quote from: MacG on May 31, 2014, 09:37:28 PM
I know lots of trans* folks who are not members here.

Most of the ones I know IRL are not. 
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