I always thought that I am always a novice regarding women's fashion and makeup. Sometimes my wife and female colleagues give advice, but it is endless. I should learn and learn again, but I am still far behind them. I guess it is a good idea to share common fashion or makeup mistakes of m2f girls.

For example, a few days ago, one woman who is 5 years younger than me pointed out that I were wearing mini-skirt unfashionable way. She said that fashionable girls to not wear like me: the top should be over the skirt, not inside of the skirt.



According to her, my way of wearing skirt in the left is unfashionable. She recommended to wear like the photo in the right. I thought that I could accentuate my waist line by putting the top inside of the skirt as in the left, but other women seem to think I am wearing unfashionable way.

Has any girl pointed out any flaw or mistake in your fashion or makeup?

barbie~~

I have had my sisters point out that, I do waste a lot of money on shoes.

Because I sometimes buy them, for how they look by themselves, Instead of how practical they are and what I have to wear with them.

My biggest mistake is buying shoes I like the look of, but not liking anything that would look well with them.

So now I buy clothes with an idea of an outfit in mind. And try to ensure that some of my existing wardrobe is interchangeable with the outfit, especially with shoes

Bu this works with everything. I have bought coats too that haven't gone with anything I had.

Funny how things can be different by location.  Girls here seem to be wearing their tops tucked into the tops of their skirts.

Barbie,

The picture on the right, with the top out, is more like how young girls look here on campus.  This does make your legs look longer.  You can pull off this look.

The "mistake" many MtF make as they start out is to try and look too young, and wear skirts too short.   I know I can't pull off that sort of look so I don't try.  The shortest skirt I actually went out of the house wearing was just below the knee.  That actually was reasonably fashionable but I felt odd wearing it - despite seeming to pass with strangers.

And I agree that another issue is buying stuff that looks good by itself, but not allowing for how it works in an outfit.  I ened up getting a pink belt on a quick impromptu shopping trip to tie together an outfit I wanted to wear Tuesday.  This had a yellow check top, khaki mid-calf skirt, and pink shoes I really liked.  This sort of worked along with pink nails and a pink oversize bag.

Take my advice with a grain of salt - most of your outfits looks worlds better than mine.


Erin

Quote from: ButterflyVickster on May 29, 2014, 02:31:41 PM
I have had my sisters point out that, I do waste a lot of money on shoes.

Because I sometimes buy them, for how they look by themselves, Instead of how practical they are and what I have to wear with them.

Yes. That is also true for me.

I have too many 4 or 4.5 inch high heels that I seldom wear. They are not practical, and my toes frequently swell after walking on them for hours.  Usually I wear flat sandals in summer. Realizing this mistake, I ordered 3 pair of flat sandals a few days ago.

Also, I have too many too-short miniskirts. Most people comment that they are too short. Recently I purchased about 10 knee-high one-piece dresses, as they are very comfortable to wear. I guess I ordered too many. All kinds of colors and styles.

barbie~~

Quote from: chrissydr on May 29, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
Funny how things can be different by location.  Girls here seem to be wearing their tops tucked into the tops of their skirts.

For blouses, they do tuck them into their skirts.



barbie~~

The shirt tucking/non tucking will also depend on the figure you have and how loose/tight the top is.

I didn't give it, but the advice I wanted to give the young transwoman I noticed in the zine fair last weekend was...don't wear your jeans half way down your backside - only guys do that! If your hips are too narrow and butt too boney get a better fit of jeans not those baggy men's denims. Also, stand up straight, put your shoulders back - yes, you're tall but hunching over like that  is a dead give away, the only women that stand like that are 70+ and have a dowagers hump.

I say wear whatever speaks to you. In terms of clothing, as long as it doesn't clash there's not really a right or wrong per set. If you're buying quality clothes you find appealing then go for it.

The bigg area where rookie MtFs mess up ginourmously...and we've all done this so no judgment...is makeup. I've seen some very poorly applied makeup on here. YouTube is your friend. You have to start small.

Like for me, I tried everything at once when i just started and it was an epic fail. Cakey, smeared foundation, eyeliner was a mess and let's not even get started on the eye shadows and blushes...let's just say I hadn't quite grasped the concept of blending and it was all because I had no idea what I was doing. I looked like a clown.

But. I did research. I found out what the proper tools, best products, best application methods etc were. I practiced constantly. Now? When my makeups good it's fantastic to the point that ciswomen frequently compliment it and ask for tips.

You wanna learn how to do everything and then find what works for you. Like I'm finally a beast at applying liquid liner but I find it's harsh on me. I prefer nice brown crayon/pencil liner and mascara and falsies paired with a smokey eye using colors that create a nice contrast with my brown eyes.

Anyways I'm rambling. If anybody wants makeup tips hmu! I'm seriously fairly proud of how far my skills have come over time and I'd love to help newbies to it, so lemme know if you want tips

In or out is fine, depending on what you feel looks best.  I think both work for you barbie in this example.

And yeah, makeup is a big thing peeps mess up at first, esp w colors and how heavy it is applied, also shade of foundation is another common noob prob.  I could probably be better at it, but I just don't wear that much.  Always love tips tho Abby!

I think the general rule is that casual tops are more often out at the bottom while formal tops may be tucked in. However in fashion, all rules can be broken. One way to get by with tucking in a top is to wear a belted skirt or pants, too. I personally like tucking tops because I'm relatively long waisted and that's an easy way to give the illusion of a shorter waist.

Keeping up with fashion trends can be confusing, but it's not too bad if you identify your best basic looks and watch for changes that apply to it. I make a habit (or near obsession, I suppose) of checking the fashion and celebrity picture websites every week or so and constantly save pics of looks I like. They're in folders ordered by date for easy reference. I've actually got thousands now (don't judge ).

~ Lyric ~

When I started to wear foundation, a woman at her 30s taught me how to apply it. When applying foundation or cream, do not scrub the face, but tap repeatedly until it is completely absorbed. Scrubbing resulted in unnatural tone and looking.

barbie~~

Quote from: Abbyxo on May 29, 2014, 03:30:54 PM
Anyways I'm rambling. If anybody wants makeup tips hmu! I'm seriously fairly proud of how far my skills have come over time and I'd love to help newbies to it, so lemme know if you want tips

I am sure Abby's eye makeup skill is better than most girls here. I may try to learn it in the near future. Some people say that my eye makeup is too dark.

barbie~~

Over stuffing the top like Dolly Parton.  Less is more sometimes, ladies.

I'm still very novice but one thing I have learned is to not over dramatize your make up. Like don't have bold eyes and bold lips choose one or the other. 

Though I am guilty of buying nice looking heels that are useless. Honestly anything over four inches is a waste of time unless your just going to wear them for a one hour event.

I've found with applying makeup less is more. Especially with eyeliners and eyeshadows. In addition as Abby mentions learning how to blend is a must. Also, when it comes to foundations and concealers it needs to match your skin tone when applied. I see a lot of girls cis  and on here that make this mistake. I also second Abby's words girls, You Tube is your friend. There are many makeup tutorial video's to choose from. You Tube is also how I taught myself a few years before finding Susan's here.

As far as the tops being in or out, I think that depends mostly on what your wearing with it, and in some cases, location. I live in Florida and no one tucks their top inside their shorts or skirts here. Not unless your wearing a thick belt, which here is almost unheard of. Shorts with tanks or halters, and sleeveless day/pull over dresses with the hem at or a few inches above the knees are favorites of mine. They're comfortable to wear and most of all, cool in the Florida heat. A good pair of sandals you're comfortable walking in down here are also a must. Save the flip flops for the beach, lol!

Ally

Quote from: ButterflyVickster on May 29, 2014, 02:31:41 PM
I have had my sisters point out that, I do waste a lot of money on shoes.

Because I sometimes buy them, for how they look by themselves, Instead of how practical they are and what I have to wear with them.

My biggest mistake is buying shoes I like the look of, but not liking anything that would look well with them.

So now I buy clothes with an idea of an outfit in mind. And try to ensure that some of my existing wardrobe is interchangeable with the outfit, especially with shoes

Bu this works with everything. I have bought coats too that haven't gone with anything I had.

Because of this, I purged 99% of everything I owned when I decided to start transition. It was like "um, this is all a bunch of crap that I would never be seen in pubic in. If I'm going to do this, I'm going to do it right."

I kept the useless red 5 inch pumps.

It is hard to say what is a fashion mistake and what is a choice someone else doesn't agree with. Lots of my clothes are gothy or hippyish, the way they look and indeed the way they are worn would vary from business causal clothes for example.

I think one of the few genuine mistakes I see is women wearing shoes that are too tall or too small. It doesn't matter how cute something is if you can't walk in it.

Also I see lots of women wear clothes that are either way too small or way too big on a regular basis.

Mind you, I see some cis women wearing the most god awful combinations of "WTF is that?" and "you were drunk this morning when you got dressed, weren't you?"... fortunately they're not all experts at looking good.

Years ago, I suffered from such a fashion disability, that now I am not sure if I have to laugh or cry over my choices of clothing...

But recently I found a very nice and simple way to dress beautifully, up-to-date and suitably for the body shape:

I got interested in fashion and started to pay attention about the current trends, also analyzed the clothing styles of the girls at my age and my body type in the place I live, everyday, so I can get the aesthetic feel about the clothing and colour combinations and later to achieve the ability of choosing my dressing style wisely, no matter if I want to blend in or stick out. Then I went to the second-hand store and bought several basic types of clothing, shoes and scarves, did a little experimenting, along with taking pictures, and finally, in just a few months, I am already being complimented almost everyday about my style

One very common thing rookie girls do is they don't dress age appropriately and as a result they draw attention to themselves. While I still believe that I can rock a very short mini skirt at 51 there is no way I'd ever be seen in public dressed that way. It stays in the drawer.

Another very common mistake is wearing clothes that look good on someone with an entirely different body shape than many of us have (ie: tall stick thin models used in clothing ads), but look hideous on us. It is far better to learn your basic body shape and choose clothes that accentuate the good features and minimize the not so good features.

Female fashion and the dos/donts just take time to learn. Ever changing fashion trends makes it harder to keep up. Welcome to being a woman 

Probably the best advice for the rookie girls is to keep your eyes open as you are out and about and notice what looks good and seems appropriate on other women with your basic body build and copy that.