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Toby Mayer FFS

Started by Jennygirl, November 16, 2013, 06:53:03 PM

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inspire

Quote from: HaleyT on May 12, 2014, 01:46:20 AM
Well, its been just 2 days shy of 4 weeks.  I thought I'd try to match up my before/after photos with current ones.

I think I was wearing a small amount of makeup in the original photos, but the current photos are makeup free, so please ignore my splotchiness :)
I've also moved since I took the original photos, so can't quite create the same lighting.  Also seems the camera was slightly lower, and shooting at a slight upward angle in the current photos.

The swelling goes down more every day, but these areas are still pretty noticeable:
-The tip of my nose
-Upper lip, up to and including the base of my septum (where the incision was made for the lip lift)
-Below my lower lip, above the chin implant
-Cheeks, all the way down to the jaw line.
Most of the swelling from my forehead and lower neck appears to have dissipated, but there is still probably a small amount.





I also thought I'd throw in a closeup photo of the two incisions on my neck from the trachea shave and chin implant.  These have both looked amazing since the dressings were removed, they are simply going to heal up amazingly!  As the stand, the are completely unnoticeable with a light coat of foundation.  Dr. Mayer really did some amazing work closing these!



(please forgive the small amount of beard stubble! :( I took these at the end of the day.  I can wait to resume laser removal in another couple of weeks!!)

-H


Awee Haley u look so cute. Face is now so much softer n delicate ;). Soo soo happy for you:). Xoxo
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Shantel

Quote from: HaleyT on May 12, 2014, 01:46:20 AM

I also thought I'd throw in a closeup photo of the two incisions on my neck from the trachea shave and chin implant.  These have both looked amazing since the dressings were removed, they are simply going to heal up amazingly!  As the stand, the are completely unnoticeable with a light coat of foundation.  Dr. Mayer really did some amazing work closing these!



(please forgive the small amount of beard stubble! :( I took these at the end of the day.  I can wait to resume laser removal in another couple of weeks!!)



-H

Inspire is right, you are so cute! Considering that you are dark haired and the underside of the chin is usually so awfully stubbly you are doing really well and it shouldn't take more than a few treatments to be totally cleared.

Nice work on the trachea and chin implant. I have found that scar tissue and discoloration dissipates rapidly when one uses a small amount of coconut oil or cocoa butter and massages the area when watching TV or reading. I can't attribute it to the properties of the oil, but i think that the massaging works the blood flow into the traumatized areas and helps break down the scar tissue and promote more rapid reattachment of severed nerve ends. I've had several procedures and find that it works well.
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HaleyT

Gah!  Looking back at those last comparison shots I was still so swollen and gross!  :P

Things have been a bit crazy at work the last couple weeks, so I've been quiet on here.  I'm sooo happy with my results though, its time to share a few more photos!  These were taken today, about 7 weeks post op.




Swelling isn't really noticeable to anyone else anymore, but there still is some around.  I think my lips have just about settled, but the incision from the lip lift at the base of my septum is still a bit swollen and stiff.  The hairline incision is still pretty red, but healing well.  I still usually wear a headband to hide it and protect it from the sun, this was the first time I went out without one!

Overall, the recovery process has been great, I can't complain!  Dr. Mayer is really incredible, I can't recommend him enough!

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Shantel

OMG Haley, you are just movie star pretty, I am so pleased for you honey, your remaining life will be blessed I'm sure!
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shedevilcanada

You look beautiful Haley, what a beautiful results.... you must be so happy
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SciNerdGirl

Quote from: HaleyT on June 01, 2014, 09:49:13 PM

I'm sooo happy with my results though, its time to share a few more photos!  These were taken today, about 7 weeks post op.




Oh my goodness Haley,  you look so pretty.  I'm so happy for you!!!  A little jealous too, but mostly just happy.

Hugs,

-J
If I want to look like a girl, I need to eat like one.

Happiness is getting your eyeliner perfect on the first try  :angel:
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Khalysta

You are looking great Haley! :)  Glad to hear everything is healing quickly and smoothly!
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Jennygirl

Haley!! You look wonderful and SO happy!!!

Everything has turned out so well for you too. Thanks for sharing :)
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alena

Congrats Haley, such a wonderful transformation, you look so happy and pretty!

Quote from: HaleyT on June 01, 2014, 09:49:13 PM
Gah!  Looking back at those last comparison shots I was still so swollen and gross!  :P

Things have been a bit crazy at work the last couple weeks, so I've been quiet on here.  I'm sooo happy with my results though, its time to share a few more photos!  These were taken today, about 7 weeks post op.




Swelling isn't really noticeable to anyone else anymore, but there still is some around.  I think my lips have just about settled, but the incision from the lip lift at the base of my septum is still a bit swollen and stiff.  The hairline incision is still pretty red, but healing well.  I still usually wear a headband to hide it and protect it from the sun, this was the first time I went out without one!

Overall, the recovery process has been great, I can't complain!  Dr. Mayer is really incredible, I can't recommend him enough!




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Ginny

Wow, really looking great there Haley. Hopefully Mayer will be around for a while, as I'm still 2-3 years out for FFS, with me not knowing if I want GRS or FFS first. I was debating between him and O, but it seems as if O is retiring this Fall. Also loving the background. It matches great with your wardrobe.  ;D
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JLT1

Haley,

Looking good girl!  Wow...

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Celia0428

You look incredibly pretty and feminine in these last straight on pics! As for the profile, it isn't bad at all but I liked the virtual FFS better than the real result as it shows a better forehead setback like if it was a type 3
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the bore worms

This thread is tough for me.  I got a consult with Dr. Mayer the other day and he rubbed me the wrong way.  Don't get me wrong - his results speak for themselves and I'm sure he would do an excellent job but I can't say that I felt comfortable with him - too cocky.  Also - contrary to others' experiences, he recommended one procedure in particular that I really don't think I need, so that left me with a little bit of a strange feeling as well.  It's difficult when I objectively know that he does excellent work but my gut feeling leads me elsewhere.

Contrast this with Leif Rogers (with whom I've placed a deposit) - my gut feeling about him is excellent but he's younger (38?) and as such doesn't have the extensive track record that Dr. Mayer does.  Still, I trust that his vision of beauty (ugh did I actually just say that?) is much more aligned with mine than Dr. Mayer's is, and once you reach a certain threshold of experience, that is really the most important thing, IMO.  Furthermore, I've been at his office multiple times for laser/electrolysis and such - the people there are truly wonderful.

I have a consult with Dr. Pincus this Friday, which hopefully will help shed some light on the situation.  After that I need to make a decision as I'm looking to get something done in early August.  I'll post back with more info this weekend.

Also - Jenny and Haley, you both look amazing!  =)
obligatory transition details:
HRT 6/2013
FFS 8/2014
SRS 9/2015
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HaleyT

Thanks everyone for the compliments!  Every one of you warms my heart :)

Quote from: Celia0428 on June 02, 2014, 11:04:05 AM
You look incredibly pretty and feminine in these last straight on pics! As for the profile, it isn't bad at all but I liked the virtual FFS better than the real result as it shows a better forehead setback like if it was a type 3

Celia, thanks for the honest feedback!  Dr. Mayer only does type 1 foreheads, so I went in knowing that I wouldn't get a result as dramatic as possible with a type 3 from another surgeon.  That said, I'm personally very happy with the forehead results I did get... they actually turned out better than my expectation.  While you can see a small amount of prominence remaining in my profile, I feel like I'm now well into the female range and have no problem passing from any angle.  (aside from my 6'1" stature anyway...  :o)

Quote from: the bore worms on June 03, 2014, 11:45:06 PM
This thread is tough for me.  I got a consult with Dr. Mayer the other day and he rubbed me the wrong way.  Don't get me wrong - his results speak for themselves and I'm sure he would do an excellent job but I can't say that I felt comfortable with him - too cocky.  Also - contrary to others' experiences, he recommended one procedure in particular that I really don't think I need, so that left me with a little bit of a strange feeling as well.  It's difficult when I objectively know that he does excellent work but my gut feeling leads me elsewhere.

Contrast this with Leif Rogers (with whom I've placed a deposit) - my gut feeling about him is excellent but he's younger (38?) and as such doesn't have the extensive track record that Dr. Mayer does.  Still, I trust that his vision of beauty (ugh did I actually just say that?) is much more aligned with mine than Dr. Mayer's is, and once you reach a certain threshold of experience, that is really the most important thing, IMO.  Furthermore, I've been at his office multiple times for laser/electrolysis and such - the people there are truly wonderful.

I totally agree.  Any of the well-known, experienced surgeons discussed in this forum are going to do a great job.   In the end it really comes down to your personal preference and making sure that you get along well with the surgeon you choose.  Alignment with "visions of beauty" is a really big deal... you can give all the instructions you want before surgery, but when it comes down to it and you're in the operating room... its the surgeon's vision and technique that are going to guide his work more than anything else.

Can't wait to hear who you end up deciding on!  :D
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inspire

OMG Haley you looking amazing!!! I am so glad for you. Really really pretty :) xoxo

~Riya
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Shantel

I don't want to derail this thread but sharing a recent dream I had where I took Riya, Haley and Jenny out to lunch at an outdoor restaurant by the ocean, it was a nice sunny day with a slight breeze and everyone was dressed in summer dresses, heels, and fastidiously made up and looking gorgeous. You ladies were seated at a table under a big market umbrella and ordered a bottle of wine as you chatted and perused the menu. I had a seat at another table where I could covertly film the behavior of all the men that couldn't resist flirting with you incredible beauties. It was a goofy dream, but it's something we can all relate to at some level. I suppose that I am pretty impressed with you ladies who have achieved something we can all only hope for.

Congratulations! ~Shan~
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Jennygirl

It was probably On The Waterfront in Santa Monica. At least that's where I would have recommended for such an occasion ;)
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Shantel

Quote from: Jennygirl on June 07, 2014, 07:26:20 PM
It was probably On The Waterfront in Santa Monica. At least that's where I would have recommended for such an occasion ;)

Been there and it's nice, you're on!
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the bore worms

Finally have a chance to update my situation.  Pretty close to making a decision, but still not 100%.   A little background info:

I'm 42 and have been on hormones for just over a year.  I don't think I have any hugely masculine facial features, although I've always had a pretty high hairline and there's been a bit more temporal recession over time.  Here is a shot of me, right now, taken by the light of my iMac.  Note - that is NOT my real hair, although across the front that is about where my natural hairline lies.  Also - cheers!



My main priorities going in have been nose and forehead/hairline.  Beyond that cheek implants would be nice, although I think this is getting a little more into chasing beauty as opposed to something that would help me pass, so to speak.  Oh and getting breast augmentation at the same time.

I've consulted with three surgeons in Beverly Hills, and each had their pros and cons:

1. Leif Rogers.  My electrologist (Dana Elise, she is wonderful) works out of his office on some days, so I've crossed paths with him a few times.  He's a younger guy with a great demeanor - easy confidence.  He explained things very carefully and I got the sense that he knew what he was doing, although he didn't really offer up any pictures of his previous work, which would have helped.  He is the only one of these three that does the breast aug himself, which I have mixed feelings about.  On the one hand, I'll bet he would do a great job; on the other I like the idea of someone who really specializes in faces doing my nose and forehead.  The most expensive option, by far (see below).

2. Toby Mayer.  I touched on this above, but I was little turned off by him at first.  He is an older guy  and I didn't feel that I related to him as well.  Also, his pitch was a little heavy on descriptions of his revisions of other surgeons' failures.  While this is a fine skill, no doubt, this sort of braggadocio does little for me.  He also recommended a couple of procedures that I didn't really think that I needed (lip lift, pre-jowl implant), although to be fair if I was in his position I would probably do the same.  It's not like I have to do them, and he did present them as the lowest priority.  He definitely has the most extensive FFS track record of those that I consulted with.  The least expensive option.

3. Stephen Pincus.  I liked him a lot.  If the above two were the extremes on a scale, he would be somewhere in the middle.  Younger and more relatable than Dr. Mayer, yet older and (ostensibly) more experienced than Dr. Rogers.  Middle of the road on cost, as well.

My plan is to go for the following procedures:

- rhinoplasty
- brow lift/hairline advancement/orbital bony contour
- cheek implants
- breast augmentation

For this combo, prices are as follows (give or take, I'm sure):

- Mayer $29K
- Pincus $31K
- Rogers $36.5K

I'm currently leaning toward Mayer based both on cost and track record (including this thread - thanks Haley and Jenny!).  If Pincus was a little less, I might go with him but honestly would rather put that $2K toward something else.  It's not like there's not more surgery in my future, right?

Either way, going in around 7/31 - will post back with more info and probably some pics although I'm not as bold as some in that regard.  Hope this thread helps someone else somewhere make their decision somewhere down the line...
obligatory transition details:
HRT 6/2013
FFS 8/2014
SRS 9/2015
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Khalysta

I didnt have the problems you did when I visited him.  He was a nice guy, took time to explain why he recommended something and why other facial features didnt need any work.  He never mentioned anything about revisions that I recall.  He showed me a few of his end results similar to what is on the website but that is it.

He recommended the lips for me too.   I was kinda against it initially like you but a friend of mine said my lips were actually my least feminine feature. Males tend to have thinner lips and more space between the lip and nose.  My upper lip is actually pretty thin so I'm having that done even though I didnt initially consider it necessary.

Whatever your choice, I'm sure you are in good hands.  Myself, I appear all set for dr mayer on the 24th of this month.  I'm kinda nervous about it but it's more general nerves about anesthesia and never having had any surgery before.
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