I am not quite there yet although I was Madame  by security in Frankfurt airport  last week which was nice and unexpected. I think if he looked closer that would not have happened as I was totally dressed male. At work I am still presenting in guy mode and what has happened which I find interesting and sort of fun is that when i travel to corporate or our other offices around the world that people literally do not recognize me as being in the room or in front of them till I talk. They do not say I look feminine just that i look allot different and younger and that I am a hippie now!  Allot of these people I worked shoulder to shoulder with for years  and it has been a few months since I saw them last. So not female yet just different so here is hoping.....

You girls that are there have passed a milestone so congratulations are in order!

It sounds like the 6-8 month mark is a tipping point for most.

Quote from: Erica_Y on February 23, 2014, 08:58:05 AM
I am not quite there yet although I was Madame  by security in Frankfurt airport  last week which was nice and unexpected. I think if he looked closer that would not have happened as I was totally dressed male. At work I am still presenting in guy mode and what has happened which I find interesting and sort of fun is that when i travel to corporate or our other offices around the world that people literally do not recognize me as being in the room or in front of them till I talk. They do not say I look feminine just that i look allot different and younger and that I am a hippie now!  Allot of these people I worked shoulder to shoulder with for years  and it has been a few months since I saw them last. So not female yet just different so here is hoping.....

You girls that are there have passed a milestone so congratulations are in order!

It sounds like the 6-8 month mark is a tipping point for most.

Yeah that happened to me in Berlin last year. I was dressed as a guy, looking very much a male imo, only for the woman to request me over and start patting me down, addressing me as miss. Things got real awkward because i hadn't shaved and her hand went real close to my groin area and brushed against it.

Quote from: mandonlym on February 22, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
Yeah, honestly your face looks super-neutral (and beautiful!) to me, a face that I wouldn't think of as male if you were presenting as female even in that picture of you. And we live in the same city!

Thank you  <blushing>

I always struggled with looking male.. I have like that weird type of appearance that looks too femme to be a guy as a guy but oddly boyish as a girl and it never really changed. I call it modelesque, I have boyish features in a way that models do. But as a boy I passed maybe 30-95% of the time depending on the situation, as a girl I do always pass. Presentation was the deciding factor in always looking female.

I always pass as well.

I really don't understand what the big deal is.

People see me, and decide what it is I pass as. Whatever they decide, always gets a passing grade. Sometimes I pass as funny. Sometimes a jerk. Often enough a human. Once in a while an ass. Almost always male or female.

And yet I pass every single time.

Quote from: Tori on February 25, 2014, 05:25:57 AM
I always pass as well.

I really don't understand what the big deal is.

People see me, and decide what it is I pass as. Whatever they decide, always gets a passing grade. Sometimes I pass as funny. Sometimes a jerk. Often enough a human. Once in a while an ass. Almost always male of female.

And yet I pass every single time.

Right on Tori.

Quote from: Tori on February 25, 2014, 05:25:57 AM
People see me, and decide what it is I pass as. Whatever they decide, always gets a passing grade. Sometimes I pass as funny. Sometimes a jerk. Often enough a human. Once in a while an ass. Almost always male of female.

That's a great line. 

When I noticed I look like this everyday

Even after ten years, I still look mostly male, its a curse, I tell you.

a few months after HRT... I come out the shower, and when I glanced in the mirror, voila there was a femme steering back at me, and ... WOW ,,, she was hot... LOL

Quote from: JaimeD on February 27, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
Even after ten years, I still look mostly male, its a curse, I tell you.

This is a curse that many of us may suffer and even some genetic women suffer.  How do you deal with it?

Quote from: JaimeD on February 27, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
Even after ten years, I still look mostly male, its a curse, I tell you.

Sorry to hear that. I know this is a stupid question, but have you tried different techniques with makeup? There are lots of things you can do to feminize your face without going under the knife.

You probably have, just wondering.
We are all beautiful in our own way.

Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on February 28, 2014, 07:03:12 AM
This is a curse that many of us may suffer and even some genetic women suffer.  How do you deal with it?

By eating lots of cookies with milk. It doesn't make it go away, but I like cookies and milk a lot.

Quote from: JaimeD on February 28, 2014, 04:09:10 PM
By eating lots of cookies with milk. It doesn't make it go away, but I like cookies and milk a lot.

I guess with humor as well.  Thats hilarious!  I like cookies with milk too. XD

It's really hard for me to not see a man in the mirror. My psychologist told me it's normal because we have seen ourselves as male our whole lives. Maybe with ffs I can see myself as a a woman.

Its an interesting question;
I am an older TS, in later years, but because of the HRT treatment over the years (I started 30 years ago , then had a break and de-transitioned at age 32), most people guess my age as late 40s (ie about 14 years younger than what I am).

I am now 14 months on Oestrogen only and when dressed as a woman, I rarely if ever get "read". If I do its by young pre-teen girls as I did in Bournemouth in England with a TS friend last month when I was in Debenhams, looking for a new Bra!. Although I think they were not sure as they stopped looked, giggled and went on with Mum, lookimg at dresses!

Luckily I have no Adams apple, very small hands, small feet and I generally make sure my nails and toenails are perfectly manicured and I dress reasonably conservatively but always with a dress or skirt (pants or trousers/jeans are too much of a giveaway, although now that my bottom is more rounded and I have added 4" to my hips, a skinny pair of jeans is workable).

Also since I did the Colour coordination course for selecting the best clothes for my complexion and had my eyebrows professionally shaped (with a nice feminine curve) and always have my eyelashes tinted (Blue black) together with as near perfect makeup as possible. )I have had laser and electrolysis, but more to go), I generally pass as female 99% of the time and people always refer to me as Miss, Mam, Madam etc

In boy mode (for work), most people see me as a chubby, overweight, older guy (Unfortunately MPB got me early on), but my boobs these days are 44B+ so  I have to wear baggy clothes as male as otherwise my boobs are too obvious as my nipples are quite obvious. So no jogging or running for a tram  with just a tea shirt on in summer without a bra one. Mind you I wear one these days mostly continuously as my breasts are rapidly heading to C Cup.

Seems kinda random to be honest.  At close to the four month mark or so, some see me as more female even in male clothes (male is the hardest for people to cope with and they seem to handle it awkwardly), most as female in female clothes (relatively new at part time but the several times Ive gone out now it seemed like I was a totally innocuous female), but the fun part is androgyne. 60% or so will be totally sure Im a guy, rest assume girl and so far no one has called me out on not presenting enough clues, they kinda tend to jump to a choice and don't seem confused about it.  I will say though, those that still gender me male do treat me noticeably different (typically in a good way) than before.  As for how I view myself, if I look out of the corner of my eye, or do other tricks so I can see a little more objectively, I definitely see female, when I look I focus on all the male markers on my face and see slightly masculine but overall somewhere between the two.

I felt that I looked more female after I started feeling more comfortable with my true self. Coincidentally that was also after two months on HRT and I have noticed some aesthetic improvements with HRT combined with my new diet during these past two months as well.

I'm on 8 months and I kind of get the feeling people that have known me for a long time , but don't explicitly know I'm transgender look at me kind of differently , but smile. 

Somewhere around 9-10 months. I got the first official male fail (one of those restroom incidents when You bump into some random dude and he startles at the very sight of You) at about 9 months. Now, it is quite random. At times, I get gendered as a "daddy" despite hanging around with my kiddo, while being dressed fem-andro. And the next day, I get "mommy-ed" while being in casual male stuff (skinny jeans, large size shirt). I am somewhere in between at the moment, cause recently I catch a lot of stares with peripheral vision - not that I really care, but sometimes it does get annoying.