Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 02, 2014, 02:18:28 PM
Somewhere around 9-10 months. I got the first official male fail (one of those restroom incidents when You bump into some random dude and he startles at the very sight of You) at about 9 months. Now, it is quite random. At times, I get gendered as a "daddy" despite hanging around with my kiddo, while being dressed fem-andro. And the next day, I get "mommy-ed" while being in casual male stuff (skinny jeans, large size shirt). I am somewhere in between at the moment, cause recently I catch a lot of stares with peripheral vision - not that I really care, but sometimes it does get annoying.

what annoying to me is when someone seems to emphasize the sir when addressing you.

Quote from: stephaniec on June 02, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
what annoying to me is when someone seems to emphasize the sir when addressing you.

Yes, such emphasis for sure would not feel nice. Guess, I am lucky, cause here where I live, language is quite gender neutral and people pretty much dont get "sir-ed" or "miss/madam-ed" at all.

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 02, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
Yes, such emphasis for sure would not feel nice. Guess, I am lucky, cause here where I live, language is quite gender neutral and people pretty much dont get "sir-ed" or "miss/madam-ed" at all.

so like they say " hey dog what's up"

Quote from: stephaniec on June 02, 2014, 02:41:22 PM
so like they say " hey dog what's up"

Kinda that, except the "dog" part is omitted .

for me, in my self-perception, i took almost 1 year in HRT when i first saw myself as the woman in the mirror who i´m.
actually it was a really long journey so far but there´s still alot coming in the nearer future.

others gave me the feedback of passing quite well as female when i was almost 3-5 month in hrt, but i still had
a very androgynious expression before starting ... 

After complete FFS....

I hit 8 months hrt today.  Am not full time yet.  Still never had a male fail. Day to day I am very androgynous but still on the male side of the line.

I just had my first real male fail moment yesterday. Dress shirt and vest got called "miss" and asked if I needed help carrying out the groceries. It was pretty awesome. Now I had gotten that from behind with long hair and being 5'4" tall but after I would talk or face them they would "correct" themselves

Now I still don't see female when I look at myself. But my vision of myself is flawed. I just trust others word on it.

I started spironolactone at 17 and Estrogen right after my 18th birthday.  Incredible depression hit me when after 2 months, people KNEW I was male.  No questions about it.  After...6 months, I got my first "have fun shopping, girls" while I was out with my mom at a clothing store presenting male.  And it snowballed from there!  Hair getting longer helps so much.  Really.  The point that I could no longer pass as male at all pretty much no matter what?  That was after about 11-16 months. 

I wish I had the BALLS to find out!!

I should be able too but don't want to even try. Though I have looked awfully drab at times and no one gives me a second look.

My main reason I feel I could is because I was gendered female almost exclusively 8 months before I even came out to anyone. I was presenting male and a pretty raggedly looking one at that. I was on HRT and did have my hair in pony tail but was dressed mainly male, had no lazer done yet and no visible boobage. It was an awkward time....I may have seen 5-10 people throughout the day and be gendered unquestionably female...but the minute I went to work or seen someone I knew well I was him!! Though about six months before I came out I did a couple of jobs that I found out after being hired as him (very male name) I was actually hired as a female. One of the main reasons for going full time.

I also ran into many past friends and acquaintances that never acknowledged they knew me. This was soon learned and avoided when I would attempt to say hi to someone and they would only acknowledge me as a stranger.

I just can't imagine how some of these people thought I was a women...and boy I sure must have looked pretty shabby as one. This was also a hard thing to accept, I didn't want (or couldn't chance)being gendered female and since I never knew I would be I couldn't up up the femininity.

I cant be a very good judge of that. I look in the mirror and see more girl than guy, but i walk out in public and the reactions i get suggest otherwise. So to be honest ~ no idea. Luckily for me, I've got a long way to go still. I honestly can't see what people see in or on me that is "male"... aside from having maybe broader than average shoulders... it doesn't feel like enough to be clocked as male. If only there was some kind of device 

Around 8 months. Being gendered female more than male despite being out as a guy 95% of the time just lured me into being female instead.

When most of the population saw that I was...heck, I don't remember when. I can't keep track of the days, too many. But I can say I look more female today than I did a couple years ago, and I was passable then, as I was several years before that.

Quote from: LittleEmily24 on June 04, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
I cant be a very good judge of that. I look in the mirror and see more girl than guy, but i walk out in public and the reactions i get suggest otherwise. So to be honest ~ no idea. Luckily for me, I've got a long way to go still. I honestly can't see what people see in or on me that is "male"... aside from having maybe broader than average shoulders... it doesn't feel like enough to be clocked as male. If only there was some kind of device 

I think maybe just more time, the longer you're on the hormones eventually they'll all see what you see, but without such a critical eye, just another woman passing by.