Uh, yeah. I've been on this type of T since October 23rd last year, and I take the full pre-filled syringe every 2 weeks .

A few questions, these have probably been covered elsewhere, but I was wondering if this type of T has slightly different side effects.

Straight after doing my shot, I get cold flushes. Is this normal?

If I do my shot quickly, i.e, spend less than 5 minutes doing it, I have trouble catching my breath. Is that bad?

I ALWAYS get a rash on my VL muscle, whichever one I use (Switch each time), and if I touch it, it burns for about 2 hours afterwards.

The needle I use (21 gauge) never hurts to go in my VL, but hurts like hell to take out. Why is this?

My T always makes me very nauseous after giving it to myself, for up to 3 days after.

At the drop of my T cycle or whatever you call it, like, the last 4 days, I get very bad cramping and it honestly feels like I'm going through *that* again, but I'm not. Why?

My chest is very itchy, no it isn't from my binder or sweating, I get the same kind of rash I get on my VL from doing my shot, on my chest.

Very embarrassing, but my nipples seem to be aroused all the time since I started T, it makes me really dysphoric :/

My doctor says there's nothing wrong with my liver since starting T, but ever since I have started, it seems I've been getting symptoms that relate to my digestive system and liver not absorbing fats (From eggs and nuts etc) properly, and it's very disgusting. T can cause liver problems, yes?

This is probably very funny, or somewhat in the least, but how on Earth do you guys control your appetite, if T increased it? I can never stop eating, and I'm still not really gaining any weight (Had mild hyperthyroidism pre-T, and still do, but I eat enough to feed a country, not even joking, and it's really annoying).

And my doctor has fairly high concerns that my other hormones are not going down as much as they should, they are still within a low "female", but very high male range. Is there anything I can do about that? As in before, or if I can't get a hysterectomy.

Thanks. Any advice is highly appreciated.

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You could be having a reaction to the oil the T is suspended in. Changing that would be worth looking into. Ask your doctor about a possible allergy as that is what it sounds like to me and is not all that uncommon.

In looking up the compound, this is what I found on a patient information sheet.

http://www.bayerresources.com.au/resources/uploads/PI/file9416.pdf

As with all oily solutions, Primoteston Depot
must be injected intramuscularly and extremely
slowly. Pulmonary microembolism of oily solutions can lead to signs and symptoms such as
cough, dyspnoea and chest pain. There may
be other signs and symptoms including
vasovagal reactions such as malaise, hyperhydrosis, dizziness, paraesthesia, or syncope.
These reactions may occur during or immediat
ely after the injection and are reversible.
Treatment is usually supportive, e.
g. by administration of oxygen.


See your doctor.

One problem. There are no other IM types of T here, except Reandron 1000, and I can't afford that because it's an undeconate (I think that's how it's spelled). I do my shot very slowly, I usually take at least 10 minutes to inject it. :/

Yeah, the box comes with a pamphlet on that list of side effects etc. I obviously spoke to my doctor and read it before starting. But it was my only option, so....

I've been on  Primoteston Depot for 2 1/2 years and never experienced any side effects that would be cause for real concern.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMStraight after doing my shot, I get cold flushes. Is this normal?

I got hot, not cold, flushes for the first few weeks after starting.  It never returned.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMIf I do my shot quickly, i.e, spend less than 5 minutes doing it, I have trouble catching my breath. Is that bad?

You're injecting too fast.  What you describe here is a classic symptom. 

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMI ALWAYS get a rash on my VL muscle, whichever one I use (Switch each time), and if I touch it, it burns for about 2 hours afterwards.

As has been said, I'd wager that rash has something to do with the oil suspension.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMThe needle I use (21 gauge) never hurts to go in my VL, but hurts like hell to take out. Why is this?

Try a smaller sized needle.  I use a 23 gauge.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMMy T always makes me very nauseous after giving it to myself, for up to 3 days after.

I'm thinking about the oil again.  Talk to your doctor. 

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMAt the drop of my T cycle or whatever you call it, like, the last 4 days, I get very bad cramping and it honestly feels like I'm going through *that* again, but I'm not. Why?

Hormone fluctuations.  I occasionally experience this, too.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMMy chest is very itchy, no it isn't from my binder or sweating, I get the same kind of rash I get on my VL from doing my shot, on my chest.

Again, possibly the oil suspension or some irritation in your hair follicles where you may develop chest hair.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMVery embarrassing, but my nipples seem to be aroused all the time since I started T, it makes me really dysphoric :/

Not much you can do about this, likely. 

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMMy doctor says there's nothing wrong with my liver since starting T, but ever since I have started, it seems I've been getting symptoms that relate to my digestive system and liver not absorbing fats (From eggs and nuts etc) properly, and it's very disgusting. T can cause liver problems, yes?

It "can", but your doctor should be testing your liver enzymes - if they're all clear, don't worry about what Google says. 

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMThis is probably very funny, or somewhat in the least, but how on Earth do you guys control your appetite, if T increased it? I can never stop eating, and I'm still not really gaining any weight (Had mild hyperthyroidism pre-T, and still do, but I eat enough to feed a country, not even joking, and it's really annoying).

Your metabolism is changing, so be sure to eat - but don't over-do it.  What is your diet like?

Quote from: Trez123 on June 14, 2014, 09:20:33 AMAnd my doctor has fairly high concerns that my other hormones are not going down as much as they should, they are still within a low "female", but very high male range. Is there anything I can do about that? As in before, or if I can't get a hysterectomy.

Nothing unfortunately.

I don't really want to put this on here, but I've just decided to stop taking it as of my last shot, because as well as all of this, it isn't doing anything for my dysphoria, and I feel worse. Not saying how or why because it will probably get a lot of hate, but I'm just going to stay the way I am because taking T and getting surgery just doesn't solve the problem as far as I'm concerned. All it does is remind me how not cis I am, and of everything I can't have, and it's torture. A deeper voice and some body hair after almost 8 months is just ridiculous, and that isn't even adding the whole obsession with my junk and the crazy sex drive either. I have honestly never wanted to die so much in my life, and considering what I have, that is saying something. Taking T just doesn't even feel real. I tipped it all down the drain and ripped up the last script, and said well if my life is that easy to ruin even more, than I don't need something like this in my life on top of all the other garbage. As for my diet, I'm vegetarian and because of my income, live off frozen vegetables and pasta with coconut milk in it. Usually 2 bowls and I'm able to ignore my appetite that never seems to go away. Other than that I drink water and tea. Sometimes coffee without milk.

Quote from: Trez123 on June 16, 2014, 05:11:04 AM
I don't really want to put this on here, but I've just decided to stop taking it as of my last shot, because as well as all of this, it isn't doing anything for my dysphoria, and I feel worse. Not saying how or why because it will probably get a lot of hate, but I'm just going to stay the way I am because taking T and getting surgery just doesn't solve the problem as far as I'm concerned. All it does is remind me how not cis I am, and of everything I can't have, and it's torture. A deeper voice and some body hair after almost 8 months is just ridiculous, and that isn't even adding the whole obsession with my junk and the crazy sex drive either. I have honestly never wanted to die so much in my life, and considering what I have, that is saying something. Taking T just doesn't even feel real. I tipped it all down the drain and ripped up the last script, and said well if my life is that easy to ruin even more, than I don't need something like this in my life on top of all the other garbage. As for my diet, I'm vegetarian and because of my income, live off frozen vegetables and pasta with coconut milk in it. Usually 2 bowls and I'm able to ignore my appetite that never seems to go away. Other than that I drink water and tea. Sometimes coffee without milk.

Mate, I'm sorry to hear that.  I think that if you're feeling suicidal you need to speak to someone.  You ask our input and we give you advice and feedback.  If venting helps you and that's what you need - feel free to vent.  But I'm not sure what else to tell you in this particular thread. 

Yeah. Already went to my local emergency department, and they just did what they always do, send me home because they can't help, or couldn't be bothered dealing with me because my needs "are too complex". Therapists don't care either, all they want to do is medicate me and make me a zombie. If zombie is what they want, then they can have zombie. One that never leaves his house, or lets anyone in it either. Its not like I am not used to being rejected and pushed away, and depressed all the time. It's life, and it sucks, but I have to live with it. Everything just fails me, but like you've said, no one can really reply anymore because I'm just too negative and no one gets me, so I might as well just shut my mouth. No one wants to read complaints and stuff they don't understand. Sorry. I forget how weird I am sometimes.