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Games are too hard for me

Started by MbutF, May 03, 2014, 10:50:42 PM

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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: MbutF on May 04, 2014, 01:00:15 AM
It's only four missions away from the start, might as well start again...

Thank you, I have no idea why I have such trouble!

Is that one of the harder missions, will things get easier after that one?

LOL No. It kind of ebbs and flows with the difficulty levels. "Death Row" & "No Escape" are pretty difficult. They CAN be beat but I doubt that you will get it on the first try.
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Mermaid

I usually play games on the hardest setting... For few reasons, really...

I am not too bothered by losing in games, I find it fun to beat challenges... Unlike my ex, who got frustrated easily if the game didn't go his way.

I don't like short games and I don't like replaying games, same reason I don't like rewatching movies I guess... So harder difficulties might keep me interested longer.

And, last but not least, it helps me feel involved... If a game's a cakewalk, my mind drifts off and I'm soon lost in my thoughts while playing the game... It's quite mind-numbing... I really felt that with God of War, what a horrible game... Couldn't keep me interested at all.

On the topic of the Souls games... I find Demon's Souls to be a masterpiece, the areas are great... Tower of Latria <3 I beat the game about 4 times and I rarely replay anything. Dark Souls though... I didn't even finish. I find it inferior to Demon's Souls in every regard... The "open-world" thing bummed me out a bit, also the absence of a central hub with NPCs. Also, some encounters weren't the least bit fun, they were a nuisance and felt cheap... Ornstein and Smough? The path to Seath where you are supposed to guess you can walk on invisible bridges? Meh, I just don't know how I'd have figured that out without the online co-op. Good game but... Tried too hard and often felt cheap because of it.

Hope Dark Souls 2 is better? Not sure if I'll buy it, from what I saw it looks like fundamentally the same game... Which is cool, but I'd rather it was Demon's Souls 2, that felt scarier, bit of a horror feel to it, Dark Souls' atmosphere didn't feel as cool to me.

And well, beating games is often about experimentation. If you keep dying, change strategy, see what options are available to you... By that I mean weapons, skills, etc. I was having trouble with Vampire Bloodlines today... Found out I had a certain skill that made a boss fight a cakewalk. =)
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Umiko

BOOO!now ya'll make me wanna buy a game system and try out one of these games! i blame you all! xD
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MbutF

Quote from: Mermaid on May 04, 2014, 09:47:21 PM

I am not too bothered by losing in games, I find it fun to beat challenges... Unlike my ex, who got frustrated easily if the game didn't go his way.

I don't like short games and I don't like replaying games, same reason I don't like rewatching movies I guess... So harder difficulties might keep me interested longer.

And, last but not least, it helps me feel involved... If a game's a cakewalk, my mind drifts off and I'm soon lost in my thoughts while playing the game... It's quite mind-numbing... I really felt that with God of War, what a horrible game... Couldn't keep me interested at all.

On the topic of the Souls games... I find Demon's Souls to be a masterpiece, the areas are great... Tower of Latria <3 I beat the game about 4 times and I rarely replay anything. Dark Souls though... I didn't even finish. I find it inferior to Demon's Souls in every regard... The "open-world" thing bummed me out a bit, also the absence of a central hub with NPCs. Also, some encounters weren't the least bit fun, they were a nuisance and felt cheap... Ornstein and Smough? The path to Seath where you are supposed to guess you can walk on invisible bridges? Meh, I just don't know how I'd have figured that out without the online co-op. Good game but... Tried too hard and often felt cheap because of it.

Hope Dark Souls 2 is better? Not sure if I'll buy it, from what I saw it looks like fundamentally the same game... Which is cool, but I'd rather it was Demon's Souls 2, that felt scarier, bit of a horror feel to it, Dark Souls' atmosphere didn't feel as cool to me.

And well, beating games is often about experimentation. If you keep dying, change strategy, see what options are available to you... By that I mean weapons, skills, etc. I was having trouble with Vampire Bloodlines today... Found out I had a certain skill that made a boss fight a cakewalk. =)

I don't mind losing.... but I mind losing hundreds of times.... :P

I wish I knew who ornstein was.... :), I can't get out of the first island or something I'm stuck in... I really need to change strategy, like really badly, :)

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Mermaid

Roll between its legs! XD Sounds silly but it's true. Dark Souls relies on telegraphing enemies' movements and attack patterns. Just study your opponents, keep your shield up... The game's actually easy when it's not trying too hard to prove that it's "hardcore"... Then it becomes cheap -.-
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Sephirah

I've tried Dark Souls at least ten times, and I just suck at it. Mainly because I am not engaged with it enough to learn the patterns of the enemies. Which is really all those games are. Learning patterns. I've never got past the first couple of hours of that game. Not for lack of trying, mind you.

I think part of it is that a game has to grab you and make you want to be good at it. If it doesn't, you're just not going to be interested enough to invest the time to learn all the tells of boss attacks, or what paths you can take and what will result in your grisly demise.

Whereas take something like Monster Hunter. Which can sometimes be just as hard as Dark Souls. I ended up being pretty good at that because I like the game, and wanted to learn how to be able to beat the Wyverns to be able to make my own gear and whatnot.

And Skyrim... lol, I can play that on Legendary difficulty, with the Skyrim Redone mod (which actually aims to make it more like Dark Souls) without breaking a sweat... mainly because I love the game.

What I would say is that you should find games you enjoy, rather than ones which are easy. Find something you love the look of, or the story of, or the mechanics of... and that will do far more to give you the motivation to want to learn them, and be able to beat them, rather than facerolling (sorry, that's an MMO term) because they're easy. That won't give you satisfaction.
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autumnwind44

Online fps shooters are hardest imo

Great for improving delicate analogue movements ;p

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luna nyan

I've left fps games behind.  Leave it to you whippersnappers with fast twitch reflexes.  And  I feel too old to engage with the sort of banter that playing cps games involves these days.  I'd probably play like a n00b.

Go play something brutal like R-type.  Pure pattern memorization.  :)
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Megan Joanne

Quote from: CiCi Confused on May 03, 2014, 10:50:42 PM
grrr,

I wanna be one of the big boys, I want to play hard games like dark souls :) but I can't get past the first boss! I tried like 400 times, and I watched all kinds of videos and walkthroughs but couldn't get past.... I gave up, lol! I'd tell everyone that the game sucks, but no, I suck at the game :)

I'm so jealous of you guys who can beat games like that! I'm in awe, the videos on youtube are amazing! Anyway, even Fable, which someone told me was an easy game, was pretty difficult, I didn't get far, I kept dying and dying and dying.... I quit. I'm being mercilessly slaughtered by the first boss in Warrior Within.... in EASY mode!

I can't go past the 4th or 5th mission in GTA vice city AND san andreas... it's too hard for me... I like to think that if I can't beat something, nobody can :) :), but I can only live with that lie until I get to youtube. I wish I could say "I love challenges" but truth is I hide when people say "games are too easy these days", lol not for me, it's too hard. I can't even beat Pokemon leaf green!

I thought I was a hardcore gamer, guess I'm not... I'm gonna admit it, I'm not one of the big boys or the big girls who can handle the hard stuff, I'm looking for something easy :) Easy games, which aren't like simple mobile games (I hate those), I'm looking for an easy game which resembles a real game you guys play!

I love games so much, but can't really play them... I'm kind of happy with myself to be able to admit this fact, despite the fact that I love games... I still hate admitting it :( I've learned to take it not so seriously anymore, I joke about how much I suck at games, you can too!  :D :D Just about any videogame boss can make me feel like quitting gaming forever!

and please, would somebody admit they also can't handle the hard stuff? come on, i'm so lonely here!

Not everyone can be good at every game, nor every type of game. Maybe find something that you are good at playing. Either that or just keep at it. Change your strategy.

Back when I was a kid I remember when I'd watch other kids play video games, this was back in the NES era, and I'd see all the mistakes they were making, why they couldn't get anywhere in any games at all, they were playing them all wrong. Don't go at things full force, slow down, take your time, study, first with what your character can do, if able to do this at the start without having to fight anything, learn every move available at the time until you feel secure that you are one with that character, then once you feel confident, move ahead into more challenging areas, one by one, take your time. Unless of coarse like in many of the old games there's a timer or other force forcing you ahead, then just pace yourself. Remember what works, and remember every mistake you make telling yourself, okay, that didn't work, don't do that again, try something else.

I'd seen so many people when playing games just rush into them, no real thought processes going on, just running straight into hordes of enemies firing like crazy or hacking away trading blows until they within moments are dead and have to try again only to do the same exact thing, then after short time, throw their arms up in defeat, and sometimes the controller, yelling and cursing that they can't do it, the game is cheating, the game sucks. I always found it amusing, made for good entertainment for me. I'd sometimes give advice, or ask if they'd like me to show them how they can get through it. Of coarse now this brought on challenges from them, saying that I didn't know what I was talking about, or no way could I do it, or beat it, the game is too hard, no one can. I reveled in the opportunity to show off and prove them wrong. Not really for personal glory, but a chance to teach them, to show that it is possible, that maybe if they saw that someone actually could beat it, as well as how it was done, that perhaps they'd become better gamers and in having a better understanding of the game, could get through it as well and in doing so give them that feeling of accomplishment that they so needed.

And once good at one type of game, the basics learned can be used towards other similar games, and each time learning extra sets of skills in turn that can be used towards another. As I said at the start, not everyone can be good at everything, you'd have to be a robot.

Some people are good at shoot 'em ups, you know those 2D ones with the space ship or other flying fighter, scrolling screen with innumerous bullets firing at you from all directions, and enemies all around trying to kamikaze into you. Those type of games require good memory and super quick and honed reflexes, they are not for everyone. I can do okay at them, depends on how severe the challenge is, but they make me a nervous wreck so I don't play them that often.

Then some are masters of fighting games, be it 2D like the old Street Fighter 2 types or 3D like eh, Tekken (are these still being made?), these games are much like the shooters in that good memory and fast reflexes are a must but now it revolves around learning all of the different moves the fighters have at their disposal and which best angle to approach and attack as well as when to unleash and when to defend or retreat, instead of the constant weaving around swarms of infinite enemies and bullets.

Some are good at RPGs. I'd always thought, what the hell could be hard about them in the first place, but then I remember how I'd watched beginners play, rushing into combat before even being fully equipped properly or learned in the basics for survival, going out there into the wilds fighting monsters too strong to defeat, then wondering why they aren't getting anywhere, because these type of games require much patience and a slower pace than action style games, and they also require lots of exploring which takes time, lots of it.

Platformers are what I've always excelled at, they can bring pretty much everything to the table as far as gaming sub-genres, sometimes throwing in bits of shooting, fighting, RPG elements, puzzles and other stuff, mix in some adventure, or keep is straight forward, but the basics are jumping, usually lots of it, and fighting a variety of foes along just as varied terrain. I've always found platformers to be the most balanced genre of games that most anyone can get into, unlike those such as the shooters, fighting, RPG which are more aimed at the elitist which tend to stick with just those type of games.

A balanced gamer can play pretty much anything, can be really good at some, but not so good at others, yet still do pretty well overall, its all about how you approach it and how well you give yourself to learn it.

I've always been good at the old stuff that I was brought up with, 2D games (NES, SNES, Genesis), perhaps its because I was young then so they were easily learned and mastered, but perhaps also its their limitations that made them easier for me. I get into playing 3D gaming such as those nowadays (and I'm talking like 2 generations ago since I'm really behind on the times) and this is when it becomes tough for me. I understand what must be done, but with so many buttons to remember and so many combinations of moves to learn my old brain gets confused easily once I get into hectic combat, things coming at me quickly from too many different directions, and too many other things to keep track of, that sometimes I had felt like a beginner and actually found myself getting frustrated over my lack of skills. But given chance, long enough, knowing myself and my capabilities, I could get good at even those type of gaming environments, its all about how well you can adapt without letting things get to you.

But skill is something learned, it requires patience and study, sometimes many uncountable mistakes before you can actually excel at something. Everyone is different, some can jump right into something they've had very little or even no experience with and play almost like a pro, but for others it takes time, sometimes lots of it. But just because one takes longer at learning something, doesn't mean they suck at it or will never be any good, because speed of learning has nothing to do with quality of learning. The end result of the slow budder could end up a better gamer at those games that seemed so very hard for him or her than those that were better at the start. Maybe you have to work your way up, start with a similar, easier game, get good at it, master it, then try tackling those hard games again, bringing with you whatever skills you've learned from the other game.

Don't count yourself out yet, and don't feel you have to compete with others, all this will do is make you frustrated to the point that you'll not want to play anything at all. These games are about having fun (something to do with your time) as well as challenging you so you can feel a sense of accomplishment, but sometimes we get lost or stuck on that second one, seen too many seemingly good natured people suddenly become raging monsters because of the initial difficulty of a game. I've had those moments all too many times myself, oh sweet innocent looking young lady, she's so calm and quiet and nice, then outa the blue while playing a game - mother f'er! @#$%! son of a beep! Rawr! Holy @#$%. What the hell do you want?! Can't you see I'm trying to beat a game!  >:(  :o  :-\  ;D

Oh, another thing, don't let others dismay you by putting you down, this does happen, happened back when I was a kid, and especially nowadays with internet and gaming forums. Someone is not so good at a game, admits they aren't, some other jerk ass tells them that that game isn't hard at all, its easy, how can you not be good at it. And I think, uh, no it is not an easy game, you just had plenty of years of practice assclown, so of coarse its easy now, but what about when you first played it, highly doubt you were all that good. Or you got lots of people all around you, all kicking ass on these supposedly really hard games, don't take it to heart and get you down, see all I typed above.

I can whoop ass in games like Super Mario Bros., Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden (all of these the old NES games) and many others like 'em, but ask me to play Tetris or Dr. Mario is see how quick I panic and fill up the screen. Where do I put this block!?  ??? Oh no!  :o Argh!  >:( @#$% this, I'm going to play me some Castlevania.  ;)
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Nicodeme

I'm...awful at action or adventure style games. Truly awful. I like watching people play them, though.

There's always minecraft! I played on peaceful mode for forever until I got on my better half's server and had to finally get used to playing on easy mode. And even then I have a tendency to die and have to be saved because we play with the overload (I think it's called that at least) mod so we have crazy powerful tainted animals showing up every so often. >_>
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Felix

I can't handle games that have zombies or other scary enemies, and I can't deal with sudden gotcha elements in games or movies.

I'm good at video games after I get some practice, but because I'm not okay with certain monsters and I'm afk for most real-time elements, I tend to find most games too hard for me too. I'm okay with that though. I'd rather suck at almost everything than spend any of my waking hours simulating human wars or beating up prostitutes.
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Lady_Oracle

hmmm I LOVE TOUGH GAMES!!!!! it's my biggest complaint about a lot of the major blockbuster games that come out, they're not tough enough. I'd have to say the last difficult game I played was the first modern warfare on veteren mode but even that wasn't that difficult in comparison to a lot of retro titles. Idk I grew up on the NES and SNES soo I'm just conditioned I guess to be comfy playing super frustratingly difficult games lololol.  Thank goodness for games like dark souls though, keeping the spirit of the hardcore gaming theme alive.

shmup short for shoot'em ups are by far my favorite kind out of all the different game genres. Imo its definitely the most challenging since it relies on your reflexes completely. Ikaruga will make you cry  ;D
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Ferretty

QuoteI get into playing 3D gaming such as those nowadays (and I'm talking like 2 generations ago since I'm really behind on the times) and this is when it becomes tough for me. I understand what must be done, but with so many buttons to remember and so many combinations of moves to learn my old brain gets confused easily once I get into hectic combat, things coming at me quickly from too many different directions, and too many other things to keep track of, that sometimes I had felt like a beginner and actually found myself getting frustrated over my lack of skills. But given chance, long enough, knowing myself and my capabilities, I could get good at even those type of gaming environments, its all about how well you can adapt without letting things get to you.
My best advice for this is try not to ever look down at the controller, press the button based on where you think your fingers are and what you feel, and you can pay much more attention, it's amazing how much muscle memory can do, i have accidentally memorized the entire qwerty keyboard because of my use of the computer. So just keep trying.
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Lady_Oracle

Idk..if you ever end up studying programming and making games then you learn the mechanics behind the gameplay which thus makes finishing games like a breeze if you have good hand eye coordination. I think the last game I had a really tough time with was ninja gaiden on the original xbox (master ninja difficulty) and devil may cry 3's dante must die mode, instant death from being hit once.... :'( I never finished either of those games on those difficulties..

Having solid hand eye coordination and great reflexes (which anyone can develop over time) and understanding the game's mechanics can get you to beat any game. I think how much time you put into it is the biggest factor though in completing a lot of games. That dedication is something is sadly something I don't have anymore. I lost my interest in gaming a while back. I hope to get back into it some day.
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Emma Winters

I honestly get bored of some games (like GTA-SA) without cheats, so I'll play through the story and all, but my second time around, I'm popping cheat codes to make the most out of the game, there isn't any experience to lose as I already beat the story and side missions, and it's rather fun to hit a car and it suddenly have zero-gravity. I play some games which don't have multiplayer native with mod(s) that allow it, so it makes the game have another chance at being a fun thing to do again. Honestly, some games can be hard beyond belief, such as the Elder Scrolls III, but I have lots of fun trying anyway.
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