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Scheduled for Suporn - Negative Crisis Evaded

Started by LifeInLimbo, June 26, 2014, 11:15:58 AM

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LifeInLimbo

EDIT: Crisis evaded! Leaving original post for reference but still open for replies.  :)

Greetings everyone,

I'm 29, MtF.. and I did a fair bit of research for a good 6-8 months between surgeons and came across the good and the bad and after so long eventually decided on Dr. Suporn. I just scheduled and paid for it with Dr. Suporn for Aug 25 2014 in the past couple weeks but now seeing a fair amount of distaste around here for his results aesthetically. Distaste ranging from how horrible and unnatural the results are to how it's 'obvious someone with his work is trans'. I just recently signed up for the Dr. S group on yahoo but never did look at any of the pictures yet and from what I hear now they are rather 'horrible' and 'ugly'? All this discussion is always in comparison between his work and Dr. Brassard and I came across more negatives with Brassard than Suporn at the time of my research. I'm in the US so will be going through a terribly long flight there as it is along with high costs for that alone.

I myself care mostly about aesthetics but am very small and circumcised. I would be devastated if it would be easy to 'peg' me just from the SRS results alone and already deal with enough issues of the past haunting me so the last thing I want is to regret SRS for the rest of my life due to results. Have I made the wrong choice? Is it too late? I'm actually quite scared now thinking that I completely screwed up and made the wrong decision with him.
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sh1982

I dont think you should worry to much first of all i doubt many guys would notice the difference anyway since most vaginas dont look very pretty.Also Dr Suporn gives you a lifetime guarantee if you are not satisfied you can always go back to have some tweeks done without to much costs.
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awilliams1701

Personally I always thought vaginas were one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.
Ashley
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LifeInLimbo

While that's the case with guys, I'm bisexual (but lesbian leaning) in a relationship with a lesbian woman at the moment who is willing to wait for me to get things done (and coming with). I know guys tend to be a bit more blind to the results but I'm sure other women would notice the difference. Further, considering the flight there being a good $1500 plus 26-32 hours travel the revisions aren't as free as one would think.  >:(
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awilliams1701

I've looked at some post op pictures and there are differences, but they don't appear to be important. I know the natural look is like a butterfly in many cases, but not always. From what I've seen post op pics didn't look like a butterfly. However I could see how that could be created if you wanted that. I know some girls get that part cut off and others never had it.
Ashley
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Elainagirl59

Hi,

I am a former patient of Dr. Suporn.  I am happy with my results -- for what that is worth. 

It's never to late till you are in the operating room.  How long ago did you book?  Contact Sophie and ask to put a hold on things.  It has been a long while since I looked at the refund policies.  But I have faith, that if you contact them now and release your date, you will be treated fairly. 

Ask Dr Suporn directly about your concerns, if you haven't already.   If you have asked, ask again for more detailed information.

As far as Dr Suporn's reputation on this board.  I feel that there were a few threads that became a "pile on" type of thing.  I also think Dr. Brassard has become the "surgeon of the day" and all the cool kids go there.  A few years ago there was so much positivity for Dr. Suporn that he was the Dr of the day.
Having said that, I do not mean to imply anything negative about Dr. Brassard.

I feel, there is no easy, definitive answer on this.

Elaina
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LifeInLimbo

Quote from: Elainagirl59 on June 26, 2014, 02:31:24 PM
Hi,

I am a former patient of Dr. Suporn.  I am happy with my results -- for what that is worth. 

It's never to late till you are in the operating room.  How long ago did you book?  Contact Sophie and ask to put a hold on things.  It has been a long while since I looked at the refund policies.  But I have faith, that if you contact them now and release your date, you will be treated fairly. 

Ask Dr Suporn directly about your concerns, if you haven't already.   If you have asked, ask again for more detailed information.

As far as Dr Suporn's reputation on this board.  I feel that there were a few threads that became a "pile on" type of thing.  I also think Dr. Brassard has become the "surgeon of the day" and all the cool kids go there.  A few years ago there was so much positivity for Dr. Suporn that he was the Dr of the day.
Having said that, I do not mean to imply anything negative about Dr. Brassard.

I feel, there is no easy, definitive answer on this.

Elaina

That's the part that concerned and scared me mostly. Back when I browsed the forums here it was a different tune as well for the most part with an equal amount of opinions. All the pile-on threads of late that were all heavily anti-Suporn to the point I was struggling to find pro-Suporn responses in the mix.

From your experience, how does Suporn's compare in comparison to natal females in your opinion? A lot of the images I saw were mostly dated.... A couple looked good, others looked 'interesting' but I kept mindful that everyone's outcome is different considering most post-op images are only few weeks to a couple months after. I guess in a sense I'm looking for more positive opinions on him to ease my mind after seeing the strong negativity about his work here as there was enough pile-on to tip that scale.

As for putting a hold on it, I literally contacted and scheduled within the last couple weeks and paid 2 days ago for the August date because it was a strong goal I had set to get it done before my 30th birthday [Sept 6]. Based on that the only one available that wasn't till Feb/March of 2015 was Aug 25th 2014. Further, my significant other is going into bootcamp and then the military mid starting October so would be the last time I would really 'see' them for some time with nobody else who either can or willing to go with for support.

It's rather tough to now be in this situation with so many expectations.
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LifeInLimbo

#7
Well, after more reading up and going through some of the olde threads I got some of my confidence back for Suporn.  ;D

It's due to pages of support for him in many threads back in 2011-2012 and came across a handful of other positives ones recently for him amongst the pileups.  I also went over some of the images on the Dr. S page and compared notes with my SO and some aren't too bad at all. The only thing that irks me is the Labia Minora tends to stick out a bit more and isn't as 'neat' looking in general though I could possibly discuss this as a possible revision over time.

Couple questions:
-> Does he form the Clitoral Crura/Crus of clitoris at all? [ more of a nitpick as I cannot seem to find much on the topic ]
-> From what I find he doesn't do any form of a forechette? Forum posts here and elsewhere claim he actually doesn't. Is there any way to do this or would a later revision be needed?

Since I'll be there for about 28 days I figured I'd at least get the chance to get any revisions that need done while there anyway during the healing process.

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JenJen2011

Quote from: LifeInLimbo on June 26, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
Greetings everyone,

I'm 29, MtF.. and I did a fair bit of research for a good 6-8 months between surgeons and came across the good and the bad and after so long eventually decided on Dr. Suporn. I just scheduled and paid for it with Dr. Suporn for Aug 25 2014 in the past couple weeks but now seeing a fair amount of distaste around here for his results aesthetically. Distaste ranging from how horrible and unnatural the results are to how it's 'obvious someone with his work is trans'. I just recently signed up for the Dr. S group on yahoo but never did look at any of the pictures yet and from what I hear now they are rather 'horrible' and 'ugly'? All this discussion is always in comparison between his work and Dr. Brassard and I came across more negatives with Brassard than Suporn at the time of my research. I'm in the US so will be going through a terribly long flight there as it is along with high costs for that alone.

I myself care mostly about aesthetics but am very small and circumcised. I would be devastated if it would be easy to 'peg' me just from the SRS results alone and already deal with enough issues of the past haunting me so the last thing I want is to regret SRS for the rest of my life due to results. Have I made the wrong choice? Is it too late? I'm actually quite scared now thinking that I completely screwed up and made the wrong decision with him.

Hello there,
You're always going to find negatives and positives for every surgeon. They are human, not God. Some results turn out better than others and you can't believe every single thing you read on the internet. One thing is for sure, Suporn is a very popular guy, so much that he's booked all the way through February 2015. That should tell you something. I've read way more positives than negatives. I trust that he will give me a good result when my time comes up.

If you did research for months like you say and chose Dr. Suporn, there must've been a good reason you made that decision, right? I understand you are worried and fearful and you should be! This is major surgery! But go with your gut and have faith that everything will turn out as you expect.

Best wishes!
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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kelly_aus

Quote from: LifeInLimbo on June 26, 2014, 11:39:55 PM
-> Does he form the Clitoral Crura/Crus of clitoris at all? [ more of a nitpick as I cannot seem to find much on the topic ]

Not a clue..

Quote-> From what I find he doesn't do any form of a forechette? Forum posts here and elsewhere claim he actually doesn't. Is there any way to do this or would a later revision be needed?

Since I'll be there for about 28 days I figured I'd at least get the chance to get any revisions that need done while there anyway during the healing process.

The primary reason most surgeons don't do a posterior fourchette is due to surgical limitations, the additional work needed creates a little too much tension in the region. It's probably doable as a revision, but not until after you are healed - it won't be in the first 28 days..

As for which surgeon? That really is a personal choice. One thing I will say, is that all surgeons have bad days or come across difficult patients..

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LifeInLimbo

#10
Quote from: JenJen2011 on June 27, 2014, 06:14:50 PM
Hello there,
You're always going to find negatives and positives for every surgeon. They are human, not God. Some results turn out better than others and you can't believe every single thing you read on the internet. One thing is for sure, Suporn is a very popular guy, so much that he's booked all the way through February 2015. That should tell you something. I've read way more positives than negatives. I trust that he will give me a good result when my time comes up.

If you did research for months like you say and chose Dr. Suporn, there must've been a good reason you made that decision, right? I understand you are worried and fearful and you should be! This is major surgery! But go with your gut and have faith that everything will turn out as you expect.

Best wishes!

Indeed - I went with Suporn because of a lot of benefits such as no electrolysis cutting time to get done and the costs. Further with the claims of great results and the views about others it was a no brainer after a while. In a sense I had gotten hit after payment with the 'oh this - this is it and finally going to happen' with the usual doubts and questions as to if I made the right choice and the ilk. I know darn well I'll get hit with these thoughts even worse when I'm finally there.

Reading all the anti-posts at a vulnerable time due to stress from preparation and planning after the decision pulled at me downhill causing me to panic and freak out. Stress being waiting for replacement BirthCert to arrive, getting passport, flight tickets, getting a bed so I don't scream in agony post-op because I sleep on an uncomfortable couch that causes back pain,  the long flight there (I'm uneasy about flights that make stops), etc.

From replies from you girls and more reading through the forums here I've felt more at ease (especially Elainagirl's reply and reading your thread helped me alot JenJen in reassuring me, thanks! :D ).

I know they aren't god and most definitely human as it was a tough choice even from the beginning. At first I even considered Dr. Reed in Miami, Florida a long time back due to the fact he was a few hours drive away until looking more into everything. Then thought of Bowers and McGinn but the prices and overall length of aftercare were factored in. Ended upon Suporn due to the achievement of depth and still attain favourable cosmetic results [had to consider what I have.. or lack thereof as the factor] along with a fair amount of aftercare. Over time there wasn't much to sway my decision at that point.

So now the last question that remains now is to wonder who's going to be there Mid-August/Mid-September. ;D

Quote from: kelly_aus on June 27, 2014, 06:49:28 PM
The primary reason most surgeons don't do a posterior fourchette is due to surgical limitations, the additional work needed creates a little too much tension in the region. It's probably doable as a revision, but not until after you are healed - it won't be in the first 28 days..

As for which surgeon? That really is a personal choice. One thing I will say, is that all surgeons have bad days or come across difficult patients..
Ah, that makes sense as to why it cannot be done especially with a one-pass technique in most cases. Thanks for the heads up on that.

Didn't expect it within 28 days, goodness no! Was saying at least if I have any issues or complaints I'm there to present them during those 28 days. Another reason I find the length of aftercare important as Less aftercare ends up being more time early on for issues to arise after release so extra aftercare is for peace of mind as well as risk reduction. Might as well take advantage of it! ^^
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Lucrezia333

Hi, I am too, going to Suporn, after the NHS made me miss my previous date, they didn't send the referral letter on time, so I had to cancel it in order not to lose my deposit.
So now, I am re-scheduled for the 23rd September. I am even more nervous and scared, but I know I will be in good hands with Suporn.
One of my friends has just came back from Chonburi and is very happy with the result, and I saw the picture, looked very natural.
So I will be there from the 20th September for the full month.
If anyone will be there too, please contact me, would be nice to have friends there.
Big kiss, E.
Love to all xx
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LifeInLimbo

We might cross paths during your early arrival and my departure then! I will be leaving the 22-23 of september so hope to see you there ^^
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jname

I hope you don't mind me asking, but you mentioned that you was small and circumcised, did you get any response from Dr Suporn in regards to how that could affect depth/aesthetics? I ask because i am in the same boat and any information would be really appreciated :)
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LifeInLimbo

If I'm correct, he usually guarantees a good amount of depth as he uses the scotal skin (the sack skin basically), so as long as you didn't get an orchi should be sufficient depth. They do ask for what your priority is, so I picked aesthetics - leaving depth as a lower priority. However, extra depth can be maintained or gained with enough rigorous dilation. The extra depth is usually obtained with the scrotal skin because he basically takes the skin and runs it through a machine that pokes hundred of holes in it to let it stretch like a skin graft would be otherwise used for a burn patient. This is why constantly dilation is needed to keep the scarring from contracting that skin and keeping it stretched during healing.

So as long as you have enough of a 'sack' you should have enough for the depth. The rest is used for the aesthetics and sensation. I have further seen some reviews claiming great results with those whom were also small but didn't have an orchi so the scotal skin was thin and pliable to work with instead of thick.

If I am wrong at all feel free to correct me.
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jname

Thanks for the info :) Now i'm wondering how much is enough scrotal skin..
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crowcrow223

Quote from: jname on June 29, 2014, 04:49:07 AM
Thanks for the info :) Now i'm wondering how much is enough scrotal skin..

I read you can try and stretch the skin yourself, it shouldn't be painful, but you can look into that
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