Quote from: learningtolive on June 30, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
What do you mean when you say "never got that with oral"?  Do you really feel and notice the effects right away or something?  I'm very needle shy but I'm going to likely switch very soon so I'm a bit curious about the short term differences when going from pills to injections. 

By the way, for all the people that switched, did you have more trouble with injections than pills with insurance?  I can pay out of pocket if I have to, but it's so nice having to pay nothing for my hrt cause of insurance.  I fear that injections may be more difficult to get covered, but I have no idea either.

I don't know. Could be nothing but a placebo effect. Or the tail end of an adrenaline rush.

I mean it felt weird. It's only a jugular vein after all. Not like an artery.

Whatever it is I feel so much happiness and contentment.

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 30, 2014, 08:50:40 PM
I don't know. Could be nothing but a placebo effect. Or the tail end of an adrenaline rush.

I mean it felt weird. It's only a jugular vein after all. Not like an artery.

Whatever it is I feel so much happiness and contentment.

Interesting.  I was very euphoric on pills for the first few times and that left me after a while.  It seems like many have that effect when they start hrt, so I'm guessing changing the way you apply it could do the same.

i JEST aboot the jugular part

Lady's again, if using an ampule, make sure you're drawing up first using a filter straw or filter attachment so you don't end up with glass in your muscles. Then re-attach the needle. Get those air pockets and bubbles out. And don't forget to pull back on the plunger and aspirate to make sure you're not going directly into a vessel. Your doc will advise you.

Does anyone know how easy/hard it is to split the injections up into dailies and if there are any benefits like a more even and steady estrogen level?

I'm already doing 5 injections a day for diabetes so I really don't care about one more if there are benefits.

Hardly worth it. Usually the Estrogen is compounded with an oil excipient to moderate and slow the absorption. It's engineered and meant to be purposefully used this way.

Quote from: Jennygirl on June 30, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
All the people switching to injections deserve a big hip hip hooray and CONGRATS!

Cheers to healthier methods of HRT administration! Makes me really happy to see

That's what my Endo is supposed to be switching me to -injections. I am worried about the high's and lows described herein and in other similar threads though Jennygirl. But as you already know I trust your opinions that injections are a better delivery method than the orals I'm on now.

I see my Endo this coming Thursday on the 3rd of July.

Oh and by the way, you look radiant in your new Avatar!!

Ally

I'd always done injections from the start until recently, currently on the pills, the effect is not as strong or lasting for sure, but at least now I know the difference (I had always wondered). But it'll do for now until I can afford to get back on the injections again, better than nothing, right. 

Quote from: Megan Joanne on June 30, 2014, 09:58:01 PM
I'd always done injections from the start until recently, currently on the pills, the effect is not as strong or lasting for sure, but at least now I know the difference (I had always wondered). But it'll do for now until I can afford to get back on the injections again, better than nothing, right. 

Oh definitely. I put my E under my tongue and let it dissolve there when it's time to take it. I've heard it's better that way and more is absorbed. Of course, I swallow my Spiro and Dutasteride.

Ally

Thanks Allyda Good luck with your endo, I hope he prescribes them to you!

I started HRT with pills for both estrogens and anti-androgens. Oral estradiol taken sublingually for the estrogen, spironolactone for the anti-androgen. Still on spironolactone for the AA, but I have switched to intramuscular estradiol valerate injections.

In my opinion, the injections are superior in many ways.

I switched because I had heard from many people that the injections provided better results. I definitely would confirm this for myself, although your mileage may vary, don't expect total miracles or anything. All I did was ask my doctor if I could switch, and he agreed to try it out.

Week 1 of HRT on pills-only, I started getting breast pain, discomfort, soreness/tenderness, heat, etc. Then it kind of faded. That and everything the pills did to me were nothing compared to what the injections did. I have had so much breast growth since I started the injections. My roommate has commented, without me saying anything about it, that my breasts have definitely grown a lot since she moved in 3 months ago. I let my ex-gf, who I'm on very good terms with, feel them the other day, and she was pretty surprised - they were bigger than hers. (I was in guy mode at the time and hiding them)

In mere hours I will be injecting myself again, for the 11th time. Just 11 weeks, and I've had so much change physically and mentally. Everyone is amazed when they see my pre-hrt pictures. My ex, my family, my friends, my coworkers - and I'm 4 months into HRT. 2.5 months of that was with injections. Soon to be 2.75

Been feeling quite a bit more euphoric since yesterday. No question at all this represents a spike in E activity in my body.

My top development has picked up in just two days. Things where never this puffy!

Oh and did I mention the euphoria?

That's great Evelyn. 

Quote from: ath on June 30, 2014, 10:18:36 PM
I started HRT with pills for both estrogens and anti-androgens. Oral estradiol taken sublingually for the estrogen, spironolactone for the anti-androgen. Still on spironolactone for the AA, but I have switched to intramuscular estradiol valerate injections.

In my opinion, the injections are superior in many ways.

I switched because I had heard from many people that the injections provided better results. I definitely would confirm this for myself, although your mileage may vary, don't expect total miracles or anything. All I did was ask my doctor if I could switch, and he agreed to try it out.

Week 1 of HRT on pills-only, I started getting breast pain, discomfort, soreness/tenderness, heat, etc. Then it kind of faded. That and everything the pills did to me were nothing compared to what the injections did. I have had so much breast growth since I started the injections. My roommate has commented, without me saying anything about it, that my breasts have definitely grown a lot since she moved in 3 months ago. I let my ex-gf, who I'm on very good terms with, feel them the other day, and she was pretty surprised - they were bigger than hers. (I was in guy mode at the time and hiding them)

In mere hours I will be injecting myself again, for the 11th time. Just 11 weeks, and I've had so much change physically and mentally. Everyone is amazed when they see my pre-hrt pictures. My ex, my family, my friends, my coworkers - and I'm 4 months into HRT. 2.5 months of that was with injections. Soon to be 2.75

Aw that sounds wonderful! I'm happy for you and thanks for sharing. Seems like you have hit another plateau of development and couldn't be happier about it! Enjoy it because it only happens once for the first time

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 01, 2014, 11:39:36 PM
Been feeling quite a bit more euphoric since yesterday. No question at all this represents a spike in E activity in my body.

My top development has picked up in just two days. Things where never this puffy!

Oh and did I mention the euphoria?

I'm digging on all of this gender euphoria right now. Like, mega.

Jenny you look great.

Yeah, I'm seriously falling in love with myself. I am BLOOMING. Probably going to end up making a cardboard cutout of myself so I can dry hump her in the bed.

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 02, 2014, 12:42:36 AM
Jenny you look great.

Yeah, I'm seriously falling in love with myself. I am BLOOMING. Probably going to end up making a cardboard cutout of myself so I can dry hump her in the bed.

LOL... I love your sense of humor !!  That was my initial euphoric response from recently switching to injections also. Maybe it's just me, but I've been experiencing some wild mood swings lately. I've managed to "tame" them slightly between shots with some leftover gels I had. I will have to give it more time perhaps, but will speak with my endo about going to weekly injections (right now bi-weekly). I think my metabolism is just "burning up" the E too rapidly or something. Not trying to be a buzzkill, just saying to be on the lookout for your E level possibly crashing after about 7-10 days. Around day 7 after my first shot, I went from "beaming" to a really bad depression very rapidly. Maybe it takes a few months to stabilize... congrats on going on-the-needle though !! 

Thanks evelyn dear!

Quote from: Kira357 on July 02, 2014, 01:22:24 AM
LOL... I love your sense of humor !!  That was my initial euphoric response from recently switching to injections also. Maybe it's just me, but I've been experiencing some wild mood swings lately. I've managed to "tame" them slightly between shots with some leftover gels I had. I will have to give it more time perhaps, but will speak with my endo about going to weekly injections (right now bi-weekly). I think my metabolism is just "burning up" the E too rapidly or something. Not trying to be a buzzkill, just saying to be on the lookout for your E level possibly crashing after about 7-10 days. Around day 7 after my first shot, I went from "beaming" to a really bad depression very rapidly. Maybe it takes a few months to stabilize... congrats on going on-the-needle though !! 

That is the one thing you girls need to watch out for. If it gets too rough, just know you don't have to endure it- there are better options. Pellets will be calling your name from the canister!

I am switching from patches to injections July 9th myself. The patches worked great in the winter months when temps and humidity were low, but with summer and high humidity it causes them to loosen and fall off. Either that or the Hawaiian Tropic was loosening them!  Being a Paramedic injections are no big deal to me. I can't wait to see any differences between the two. Hopefully the "girls" will love them.

Quote from: Jennygirl on July 02, 2014, 01:30:25 AM
Thanks evelyn dear!

That is the one thing you girls need to watch out for. If it gets too rough, just know you don't have to endure it- there are better options. Pellets will be calling your name from the canister!

I'm already very interested in the pellets, just will be hard to find where I live. IMI is considered "cutting-edge" and "holy-grail" here, it took me 2 months to find the right doc (an OB/GYN) and is a 240-mi round-trip for me. Well worth it though, I just hope things stabilize soon. I should mention that I'm currently going through a nasty divorce right now, and the anxiety of that certainly has a significant impact on my overall transition experience lately. God, I'll be glad when that's done !!!  Now... if I can just find some of these "magic" pellets..... mmmmmm 

** And congrats on getting the IMI Jessica... that first shot (20mg/mL - Delestrogen)... WOW!!! OMG!!! 

Just a comment about the implants.. I gave them a try - all it did was cost me money. No changes to levels and no increase in any physical changes..