Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Well the world is not. A big part of it is because of the behaviors that so apparently and starkly reinforces "weirdo" stereotypes that causes violence against us.

And because of it, it's actually compromising *my* own safety.

Now that I think about this more, I am now moving forward with the impression that there is good reason to be hateful within your own community...

Care to expand on and clarify what you mean by that?

That I would reserve remorse for anyone that makes a news worthy spectacle out of what we are.

If we are to assimilate in safety, then maybe there should be an code of conduct.

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 11:44:12 AM
That I would reserve remorse for anyone that makes a news worthy spectacle out of what we are.

If we are to assimilate in safety, then maybe there should be an code of conduct.

It's a good thought but not a possibility that many would adhere to. I don't know how many friends in the past whined to me about being publicly ridiculed for looking like a hooker or a 40 year old dressed like a 12 year old Little Bo-Peep. Skirts not age appropriate, fishnet stockings and anything else that 99% of cis females wouldn't be caught dead in, only to have them jut their lower jaw out at me and defiantly tell me that they have missed out on all this and dammed if anyone is going to say they can't. About all we can do is say good luck with passing then stupid!

^^ Pretty much yeah. The proverbial, "give them enough rope to hang themselves."

Or the 2nd alternative which is to dissociate and go even stealthier.

That's my game plan.

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 12:24:16 PM
^^ Pretty much yeah. The proverbial, "give them enough rope to hang themselves."

Or the 2nd alternative which is to dissociate and go even stealthier.

That's my game plan.

I'm not even on the playing MtF field living androgynously, but then I'm non-binary anyway and not remotely concerned about what others may think, though I am careful not to present as a complete pariah to the trans community or my own family. There is a balance there that one needs to always consider. Bit of an eccentric? Yes but completely friendly and approachable and I don't bite.

Shan you seem pretty level headed. How about chiming in on this thread...

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,168479.0.html

How little actual money I have. I swear, the moment I can pay for surgery I am simply going to throw the money at them and never even look back because it's so easy to lose your cash lol.

That I am unable to get those unneeded and unwanted things removed.

I'm trying to apply for a student loan, but it claims my account is locked. I hate these people.

Quote from: Shana-chan on July 03, 2014, 09:03:43 AMI know it hurts, especially when we do try but, don't let those jerks get to you, I see a woman in that picture and your trying is paying off. I am curious though and, sorry if this upsets you but, do you have a female sounding voice yet and if so were you using it that day?

It's kinda feminine, I do the best I can. Can't get it into the range I want it but I have heard women speak lower than that before.

Quote from: immortal gypsy on July 03, 2014, 12:10:35 AMAre they blind, obnoxious, stupid or all of the above. You look gorgeous

I was thinking blind, but I seem to look better in pictures than IRL.

Oh, I missed your post for some reason, Lauren...yeah it seems like people are being jerks, you are clearly presenting as female there. Any chance they'd know you from other days, like have there been days you presented as male or androgynous? People remember these things for some reason.

In any case, people will give you less hassle after more time on HRT. You already look very feminine, but I've noticed big changes in a lot of girls over the first year or two and people stop misgendering them.

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Well the world is not. A big part of it is because of the behaviors that so apparently and starkly reinforces "weirdo" stereotypes that causes violence against us.

And because of it, it's actually compromising *my* own safety.

Now that I think about this more, I am now moving forward with the impression that there is good reason to be hateful within your own community...

If someone attacks me violently or sexually, I would feel more inclined to blame the aggressor than I would someone like Rupaul.  I may hate the imagine that Rupaul projects and makes people assume about us, but he owes me nothing and it's not his fault when we are assaulted.   There is no justification for someone to hurt us that way even if they try and justify it.

But I agree that the world is dangerous for us.  That's why I seek stealth and blending in.  That's why I'm very awkward about being trans. However, I think of all the things that are beyond my control and it scares me.  Many transwomen have found themselves facing discrimination and violence without doing anything to deserve it.  We are just a group that people feel justified to hurt and discriminate against.  Granted, I can't blame a guy for not being attracted to someone because they're trans, that's his right, but attacking a girl and hurting her is another thing.  Read what straight men say about us and how they feel "bashing their skulls in" would be appropriate (and I've been reading a lot of that the past week).  Sometimes hate just exists and that;s the problem.  That's why it's a dangerious world and it's hard to safetly navigate through it as a woman let alone one that's trans.   It seems passing is one option, but that's not full proof either.

Quote from: learningtolive on July 03, 2014, 09:43:41 PM
it's a dangerious world

Thanks Mattie, I remembered something my Mama used to tell me, that it's a dangerous world out there. While I know this is the truth, I still forgot what she said. So many of my memories gone, forgotten, erased even. Heck, I don't remember most of my child hood, it's like I have amnesia or as if someone erased my memories. So to remember this, makes me happy, thanks. Also, try not to read so many of those dark and scary/depressing stories, sounds like it's getting to you.

Quote from: birkin on July 03, 2014, 08:49:43 PMOh, I missed your post for some reason, Lauren...yeah it seems like people are being jerks, you are clearly presenting as female there. Any chance they'd know you from other days, like have there been days you presented as male or androgynous? People remember these things for some reason.

In any case, people will give you less hassle after more time on HRT. You already look very feminine, but I've noticed big changes in a lot of girls over the first year or two and people stop misgendering them.

No, these are all tourists. Never met any of them in my life.
And jtlyk, never went andro.

Bones in the face won't change

Aw, I'm sorry to hear it. Regardless they were being a-holes because you clearly aren't male there.

No the bones don't change but facial fat redistribution does a LOT. My face shape is super different from before and I don't think any bones have grown (they are mostly obscured by my fat anyway haha).

I miss my Honeybear. I have the chance to chat with him but I think he is sleeping.

Quote from: Rainbow Brite on July 03, 2014, 10:49:17 PM
I miss my Honeybear. I have the chance to chat with him but I think he is sleeping.

NO logging on now

Anime Expo is going on right now with Yaya Han there and I can't be there.   

alone on the 4th :/

Nasty disgusting kid coughed on my arm....disgusting kid