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My FFS with Dr. Cardenas: June 21st, 2014

Started by Roni, June 18, 2014, 08:32:09 AM

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lovelessheart

Oh okay. Well I took my cast off yesterday. I feel so much better. All that junk on my nose.

Quote from: Roni on July 03, 2014, 05:22:43 PM
I don't know. I feel like, especially looking at my side profile, that my chin is set back compared to the rest of my face, which ends in my mouth looking pretty weird. I'm just my own worst critic I guess.

Honestly, I only kept the tapes/cast on for a week after they had re bandaged my nose. I think I was told to keep it on longer. Just got incredibly tired of walking around in the mall or gym only for people to stare at my cast.
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crowcrow223

I'm freaking so angry right now... They have increased prices of ALL procedures by 15%, fuc*!!! Just got an email from C.

If you don't want to have a lot of work with them done, that might not be much, but if you do, it may mean even few thousand dollars more to pay :/ GREAT..
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Roni

Quote from: crowcrow223 on July 05, 2014, 04:15:08 AM
I'm freaking so angry right now... They have increased prices of ALL procedures by 15%, fuc*!!! Just got an email from C.

If you don't want to have a lot of work with them done, that might not be much, but if you do, it may mean even few thousand dollars more to pay :/ GREAT..

Oh wow.. I'm so sorry crow! I still think even with the 15% increase, Cardenas is more than worth the money and still cheaper than his nearest competition, DiMaggio.
On the wild journey to self-discovery. Free yourself.
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crowcrow223

Quote from: Roni on July 05, 2014, 04:59:54 AM
Oh wow.. I'm so sorry crow! I still think even with the 15% increase, Cardenas is more than worth the money and still cheaper than his nearest competition, DiMaggio.

Yeah, compared to all other surgeons he's still very good and affordable, but I started planning everything in terms of how much am I gonna be able to save, how much overdraft I may have to take etc, and now I have to re-calculate anything and postpone the surgery at least 2-3 months...
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jgirl76

Quote from: samantha55522 on July 05, 2014, 02:48:51 PM
The results of MDM are unique and can not be compared. Anyway Cardenas this year began to understand that should start trying to make the MDM results as who is the pioneer in remodeling the frontal bone and orbital rim without titanium and others....MDM did a lot of Tipe III reconstruction during the las 15 years and of course this expertise is more expensive, because his results are better than others.
I still believe that Roni result is relative because Roni femininity and beauty help with the final result, but the technical results in the hands of MDM could have been much better....sorry but this is a minimun tipe III reconstruction....
Hugs.
S.

Sammantha, can you please describe what makes Dr. Cardenas type III a "minimum type III reconstruction" ?  What does that mean?  Thanks, J
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EmmaD


Hi Roni,

A HUGE congratulations on your fantastic result. Absolutely gorgeous. I didn't think you needed much done from your photos but you thought so, communicated your needs and the surgeons delivered. 

You have certainly put my mind at ease even though while I don't believe I need a type 3, I do need a fair handful of things done. Well, I want them actually.  My cost is about double!!!  Time to book.

Thank you so much for being open.

Emma



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Celia0428

Quote from: samantha55522 on July 05, 2014, 02:48:51 PM
MDM did a lot of Tipe III reconstruction during the las 15 years and of course this expertise is more expensive, because his results are better than others.
Samantha, can you please explain how you calculated these 15 years?... Everybody knows Dr. Di Maggio started to do FFS in 2007, which would make 7 years of experience.
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Celia0428

Thanks Samantha, I don't doubt about Dr. Di Maggio's experience in plastic and craniofacial surgery in general but you were specifically mentioning 15 years of experience in type 3 forehead reconstruction, which I think is not correct as he started to do FFS in 2007 and type 3 forehead  procedure is not used for anything but FFS. I just thought that once again you were going too far at promoting him
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V M

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Quote from: samantha55522 on July 05, 2014, 07:20:54 PM
Celia may be for your "info" started in 2007, but will be a good idea to read his CV from his website...MDM is Specialist is Craniofacial Surgery from 1997 and did a lot of craniofacial reconstruction not only FFS, also pediatric craniofacial reconstruction and adult trauma and oncology and most of the craniofacial surgery procedures.
For your info craniofacial surgery is an specialty within plastic surgery.
And MDM is one of the few FFS surgeon with this specialty....
Have a nice week end.....
S.

Good idea,

If you'd like to read up on Dr. Cardenas or Dr. DiMaggio, go to their respective web sites

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Do not impose upon another person's experience

Thank you

V M
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- V M
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: samantha55522 on July 05, 2014, 08:20:41 PM
No promotion, I'm just answering your question and reporting in general.
For "REAL" craniofacial surgeons as MDM, the osteotomies used in FFS are less complex compared to those used in the remodeling of a skull in pediatric craniosynostosis. So I suggest you study a little about techniques and procedures used in craniofacial surgery. Absolutely dr. MDM is an expert in craniofacial surgery, the proof is in the results and patients who seek what are generally those who seek the best possible outcome in the frontal and orbital remodeling.
Greetings.
S.

Samantha,
If your sole and unique purpose in being here is not to promote Dr Di Maggio, could you kindly explain why you intervened in this thread in particular and what else brings you to Susan's Place?  I have looked at all of your posts and have never seen you get involved in any other subject.  As I have asked you before, are you personally trans and have you even been through FFS yourself ? 

For those interested, here is Samantha's introductory post: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,128093.msg1014471.html#msg1014471

Hugs
Donna



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whatever

Quote from: crowcrow223 on July 05, 2014, 04:15:08 AM
I'm freaking so angry right now... They have increased prices of ALL procedures by 15%, fuc*!!! Just got an email from C.

If you don't want to have a lot of work with them done, that might not be much, but if you do, it may mean even few thousand dollars more to pay :/ GREAT..

I could be wrong but the Package Prices listed at http://transop.com/index.php/pricing/packages haven't seem to increased since the announced increase at the beginning of the year. Can you verify that this is over and above the quoted prices?
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V M

Back on topic  8)

Roni, your results are quite lovely, you have every reason to wear a big smile and have a sparkle in your eye

Congrats and hugs  :icon_chick:
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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crowcrow223

Quote from: whatever on July 06, 2014, 08:34:44 AM
I could be wrong but the Package Prices listed at http://transop.com/index.php/pricing/packages haven't seem to increased since the announced increase at the beginning of the year. Can you verify that this is over and above the quoted prices?

He just said the prices have been increased by 15% in all procedures, then I replied asking to provide me the list of new prices for the surgeries I'm interested in having, still waiting for the answer
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EmmaD

Quote from: crowcrow223 on July 07, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
He just said the prices have been increased by 15% in all procedures, then I replied asking to provide me the list of new prices for the surgeries I'm interested in having, still waiting for the answer

I thought the price increase happened with effect from the beginning of May and is an annual thing.  Still have to get my bum moving and get mine organised. Have a lot of my professional team suggesting getting it done in Australia instead.  They are all a bit pushy on it actually.  God only knows what it would cost here. 
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Roni

Quote from: V M on July 07, 2014, 12:07:06 AM
Back on topic  8)

Roni, your results are quite lovely, you have every reason to wear a big smile and have a sparkle in your eye

Congrats and hugs  :icon_chick:

Thanks V M! As of right now though I have this huge giant burn mark on my forehead---a result of no sensation in my forehead area. Was straightening my hair with a straightener and I guess I had touched my forehead with the metal part of the straightener but didn't feel the burn. Only have the mark to prove it happened..
On the wild journey to self-discovery. Free yourself.
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luna nyan

Quote from: crowcrow223 on July 07, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
He just said the prices have been increased by 15% in all procedures, then I replied asking to provide me the list of new prices for the surgeries I'm interested in having, still waiting for the answer

15% increase is fairly steep, but it often occurs once someone has bee established as an expert in a given field.

I'll be honest and say that for most MDs, dealing with quotations is the part they least like to deal with as price shopping makes their skills feel devalued.  Most would have the attitude "if someone values my skill and treatment outcomes, my fees are reasonable enough for what I do"

For the consumer who has budgetary concerns, it's important, but I'm throwing the health providers viewpoint out for reference here so people understand why they can get short and surly when someone tries to negotiate too much on fees.
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: V M on July 06, 2014, 04:54:01 AM
Susan's Place is not the place to SPAM adverts for a particular surgeon

Do not impose upon another person's experience

Thank you

V M

But what if someone has a totally killer recipe for Spam?

I would like to hear it.
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crowcrow223

Quote from: luna nyan on July 07, 2014, 07:18:25 AM
15% increase is fairly steep, but it often occurs once someone has bee established as an expert in a given field.

I'll be honest and say that for most MDs, dealing with quotations is the part they least like to deal with as price shopping makes their skills feel devalued.  Most would have the attitude "if someone values my skill and treatment outcomes, my fees are reasonable enough for what I do"

For the consumer who has budgetary concerns, it's important, but I'm throwing the health providers viewpoint out for reference here so people understand why they can get short and surly when someone tries to negotiate too much on fees.

I wouldn't dare negotiate the fees whatsoever. I'm just genuinely interested in his services, need to know the reality, and I asked very politely if the pricelist has been updated, and then requested a confirmation. That's it :)
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luna nyan

Quote from: crowcrow223 on July 07, 2014, 05:03:22 PM
I wouldn't dare negotiate the fees whatsoever. I'm just genuinely interested in his services, need to know the reality, and I asked very politely if the pricelist has been updated, and then requested a confirmation. That's it :)
That's fine, there isn't issue with that.  Some others though...
Drifting down the river of life...
My 4+ years non-transitioning HRT experience
Ask me anything!  I promise you I know absolutely everything about nothing! :D
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radialan

There have been a couple of questions about our pricing in this thread, so I wanted to step in and provide some limited feedback focused on this issue.  Earlier this year, we did increase our prices a little bit due to increased costs at our new hospital that opened in April.  The actual increase over our 2013 prices ranges from zero to 15%, depending on the procedure.  As an example, the price of Forehead Contouring increased 10% while the price of Type III Forehead Reconstruction increased only 3.6%.  The price of breast implants remained the same.  There are no further price increases currently being considered for 2014.

We do have our complete Facial Feminization price list online.  If anyone would like to view it, just go to our website (transop.com) and click on the button labeled "instant package quote" or the pull down link entitled "build your own package." 
Disclosure - This message has been posted by a member of the TransOp team in Mexico.
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