Good afternoon guys and dolls, and welcome to Nero's Not-so Pointless Poll for the Day!

How important to you is orgasmic ability vs desire for SRS?
How much risk of loss of orgasm would you be willing to take for any kind of SRS (includes phallo, meta, and clit release)?

Would you only have SRS if guaranteed orgasmic ability in writing?
Would you be willing to take only a small risk (if most patients retained orgasmic ability)?
What if the risk were 50/50 for loss of orgasm?
Would you have SRS if you had to sign a paper confirming your understanding that you would never experience another orgasm again?

Gentlemen only please. Ladies poll here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,17994.msg138984.html#msg138984
Elaboration on your vote is desired but not mandatory.



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I'm somewhere between none and small risk. Voted small risk. I don't care right now about bottom surgery, but I could see myself getting a meta someday because that risk is pretty small if performed by a good practitioner. After what happened to my friend getting a phallo, any thoughts I had about that being a possibility are out the window.

The parts I have work fine, my girlfriend likes em, so I don't feel too much of a need for any surgery at the moment, although I don't particularly like the look of 'em.

Dennis

I refrained from voting, because I'm not really planning on getting any kind of bottom surgary.   IF I were to go that route, it would be for reasons I guess so important that I'd be willing to take some risk the loss of orgasm. 

Personally though, I have to echo what Dennis said... it's working fine, and no one's complained.  Between what's in my toybag, and what's between my ears, I've got all the equipment I need, and the original parts still bring me good things.

I'd have preferred my original equipment was something different, but oh well... I'll stick with what I got.   

Scott

only small risk.  sex's hella important for me.  dont wanna have phallo but wanna have a hysto & meta in da futture.  metas risks not that high.  wanna look ok down there.  take a shower with all the dudes, locker room stuff, u dig?

Quote from: Chris on August 19, 2007, 04:30:30 AM
only small risk.  sex's hella important for me.  dont wanna have phallo but wanna have a hysto & meta in da futture.  metas risks not that high.  wanna look ok down there.  take a shower with all the dudes, locker room stuff, u dig?

Exactly....

However for me I would o for 50/50 as I have never orgasmed myself... so I wouldn't really miss it.. if I could never have it

What Dennis said.

I voted small chance.  Orgasmic ability is very important to me, but a meta by a good surgeon doesn't seem too risky (from what I've read).  And I second Chris--looking alright in the locker room would be awesome (I don't care too much if it's small, just so it's passable and I don't have to worry about my towel falling off).  But heck, at this point, I'm just looking forward to growing *something* down there...

This is really interesting to see the difference between the guys and the women in their answers concerning this question.  I am fascinated.

Cindi

Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 21, 2007, 01:19:53 AM
This is really interesting to see the difference between the guys and the women in their answers concerning this question.  I am fascinated.

Cindi

Personally, I suspect a primary reason for the big difference in responses is 1) the difference in cost & effectiveness of the two different types of bottom surgery; and 2) the psychological difference between dealing with an unwanted penis vs an unwanted vagina.

If the bottom surgery for FTMs were less expensive and more effective, then perhaps folks would be more willing to get it, despite some orgasmic risk.  As is, it just isn't as attractive an option for us as it is perhaps for MTFs.

More important, mentally and emotionally speaking, I suspect that it's simply easier to deal with a vagina than a penis...  I can always pack if I want, and there are lots of options in terms of sexual matters.  On the other hand, if I had an unwanted penis, I suspect it would be very intrusive.  I can but imagine that every time a MTF looks down and sees this 'thing' there, it must be a horrible reminder that their body doesn't match their gender.

I could be off on this guess, but hey...  anyway, I'm thinking that these factors could be a large part of the reason why MTFs would be much more willing to risk loss of orgasm than FTMs are.  Just my gut hunch... 

Scott

Scott,

I was thinking about the desire for intimacy.  In many of the mtf responses, sexual pleasure was at the bottom of the priority list.  In this poll, with the few responses so far, pleasure seems much more important.

It is curious.  It really is.

Cindi

Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 21, 2007, 05:36:26 AM
Scott,

I was thinking about the desire for intimacy.  In many of the mtf responses, sexual pleasure was at the bottom of the priority list.  In this poll, with the few responses so far, pleasure seems much more important.

It is curious.  It really is.

Cindi

Just men being men, Cindi! 

tink

Quote from: Tink on August 21, 2007, 07:57:11 PM

Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 21, 2007, 05:36:26 AM
Scott,

I was thinking about the desire for intimacy.  In many of the mtf responses, sexual pleasure was at the bottom of the priority list.  In this poll, with the few responses so far, pleasure seems much more important.

It is curious.  It really is.

Cindi

Just men being men, Cindi! 

tink

Tink wins.

Dennis

Quote from: Dennis on August 22, 2007, 01:41:21 AM

Quote from: Tink on August 21, 2007, 07:57:11 PM

Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 21, 2007, 05:36:26 AM
Scott,

I was thinking about the desire for intimacy.  In many of the mtf responses, sexual pleasure was at the bottom of the priority list.  In this poll, with the few responses so far, pleasure seems much more important.

It is curious.  It really is.

Cindi

Just men being men, Cindi! 

tink

Tink wins.

Dennis

lmao   wooohooo

Quote from: Chris on August 22, 2007, 01:52:38 AM

Quote from: Dennis on August 22, 2007, 01:41:21 AM

Quote from: Tink on August 21, 2007, 07:57:11 PM

Quote from: Cindi Jones on August 21, 2007, 05:36:26 AM
Scott,

I was thinking about the desire for intimacy.  In many of the mtf responses, sexual pleasure was at the bottom of the priority list.  In this poll, with the few responses so far, pleasure seems much more important.

It is curious.  It really is.

Cindi

Just men being men, Cindi! 

tink

Tink wins.

Dennis

lmao   wooohooo

LOL... indeed!   I bow to the superior reasoning of the Ladies, and the realization of our inherent nature. 
(So much for intellectualizing the male sex drive!)   >

Scott

Haha I'm on the only one so far to vote 'I'd have SRS even if told I would never orgasm again.'

I don't care much for the pleasure factor. The last relationship I was in ended because I couldn't stand the idea of sex in any form. I've masturbated ONCE and that was because I was in a violence/sex mood, Doom didn't want to work on my computer so I looked up some porn and couldn't help myself after about half an hour of watching it. I haven't really had the desire to do it since, and the desire to participate in sexual acts is few and far between. Of course, this probably has a lot to do with the fact that I'm pre-T.

Regardless of that though, I desperately want something 'down there'. I would settle for a meta if that was the absolute only thing on offer, but ideally I'd want a phallo that I could at least pee out of and looks mostly 'real' if you know what I mean. I've been told by the director of the clinic I'm going to though that is no FTM bottom surgeon willing to perform any surgeries in the country anymore. So I guess it'll either be a long time or a lot of money until I get what I ultimately need.

QuoteAbsolutely none! If I couldn't orgasm, I'd eat my gun.

This made me laugh. Is it a double entendre, or what?

I'm 50/50 on it, only because sex isn't important to me and I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do in terms of lower surgery. I want to be as physically male as possible, it's necessary for my well-being, but with the increased sex drive T has given me, I feel like it would be difficult to not even be able to jerk off and release that tension? Eugh, too much info there, but there you go. I could get past it, it would just be very difficult for me at first.

Gosh, its such a tricky decision isnt it?
I voted for "Small risk". Although I do go back and forth. Id love the surgery to be no risk, but theres always the potential.
Ive got this decision to make soon as my next phalloplasty stages will include what to do with the "mini/original" penis. It can be left accessible in the testicle area, or moved and "buried" within the shaft of my phallus. In a way I sway toward leaving it accessible, atleast I know I could still orgasm, but I dont want anything to look odd. Sure, itll get some stimulation during sex, but not as much as if its within the phallus. So then I sway to having it buried. Once everything is done, nothing would look out of the ordinary if its buried, and sex will create better erotic feeling through it. But what if its not enough? (Insert my hopes for the nerve hookup work).
Sex is very important to me. I love the intimacy with that one person and sharing with them, but if I could have a limited version of this - with no climax, Id feel forever frustrated, not being able to fully be sexually satisfied. Id just be teetering on the edge and boy would that drive me crazy. My sex drive has always been high and I cant imagine never being able to relieve that.

Ive heard that the majority of men post phalloplasty can still have great orgasms, but I have to acknowledge the risks. So in this sense, I put that Id accept  a small risk.
      Also, with the V-nectomy, this can effect orgasm. However, this part of the surgery is a 100% must for me. Id accept 50/50, or even signing that paper! I myself have an extremely strong view on that down there, and I will never feel whole, or safe untill its sorted so Id be willing to take any risk.
   Maybe I should have voted for 50/50 risk, thinking more about it....

Anyhu, thats my opinion.

Quote from: Make_It_Good on September 03, 2012, 01:25:51 PM
Anyhu, thats my opinion.

I agree with everything you've said here, including the v-nectomy part. That goes without question; I couldn't live the rest of my life with that thing there. But I do love sex, and for me, pleasure and ultimately orgasm (for both partners) are a part of that.

I will consider absolutely no risk. Even if the procedure came with a 0.01% risk I would not find that acceptable. It's all or nothing for me, so I choose nothing, it's fine the way it is.