Well the doctor was cool and all but he said he cant start guys on hormones and come back after my srs. I meam like wtf. The very fact is he said he cant is a total lie! I wasted my time and a fare i could of used for something else. Total time waste and his practice is for trans girls specifically

That's strange. Don't trans women typically start hormones before having srs?

That really is so odd.

If you can, I would suggest finding another doctor.

Quote from: Edge on July 11, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
That's strange. Don't trans women typically start hormones before having srs?

No doctor worth a damn will even perform SRS without letters stating the patient had been on hormones for at least one year.

Sorry this has happened, Brianna.

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 11, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
Well the doctor was cool and all but he said he cant start guys on hormones and come back after my srs.

OMG did he really refer to trans girls as 'guys'?!?

You're right that he's talking out of his backside. There is absolutely no requirement for you to have SRS before getting hormones; quite the oposite. Please don't be downhearted: write this guy off for the idiot he is and find a different doctor.

You know, it is possible for a doctor who is opposed to trans* people for personal, cultural or religious reasons to set up a practice deliberately to prevent us from transitioning. Perhaps that's what's going on here?

my dysphoria has be controlled enough that i have a little more patient and not just cut the damn thing off but not anymore. not only am i extremely dysphoric but i'm pissed off severely. one of the female admins even ask me in a pleading, sorrowful way if i would come back after. i felt sry for her. the doctor is completely rude and all he was talking about was vaginas right in my face! i mean like wtf is wrong with some of these male doctors -.- i hope i can get in contact with my endo because this is turning into a serious situation. i never wanted this gross, dangle thing gone so badly. i tried showing patience and restraint but after today, its gone. i even walked 5 miles just to blow off steam. oh forgot to mention i did get something good out of today. i called called ms by the front desk person

Quote from: FTMDiaries on July 11, 2014, 03:25:44 PM
Sorry this has happened, Brianna.

OMG did he really refer to trans girls as 'guys'?!?

You're right that he's talking out of his backside. There is absolutely no requirement for you to have SRS before getting hormones; quite the oposite. Please don't be downhearted: write this guy off for the idiot he is and find a different doctor.

You know, it is possible for a doctor who is opposed to trans* people for personal, cultural or religious reasons to set up a practice deliberately to prevent us from transitioning. Perhaps that's what's going on here?

no its not even cultural because he said his practice was made for post op trans girls. i think this guy just is homophobic because i'm trying to start hormones and he just thinks i'm crazy

I have heard of asking 3 months of therapy, but SRS? That is like saying in order to get driving lessons you have to own a Ferrari. Most people seem to decide if transition is right for them or not in the HRT stage where most changes are reversible, to get SRS first would just be insanity.

oh oh oh, i forgot the kicker. he said i was just experimenting with the drugs. if i was experimenting i would be self medicating by now and i would be desperately seeking medical help to get on hormones.

Is that not part of the reason we are usually started on a low does to begin with, 'to experiment' to see how the body handles the hormones (that is a drug) at the start and then they adjust the does? Sounds like this quack is a cousin of Hewey Duewy and Screwy.

Brianna I think it's time you find another doctor like now

Quote from: immortal gypsy on July 11, 2014, 04:42:19 PM
Is that not part of the reason we are usually started on a low does to begin with, 'to experiment' to see how the body handles the hormones (that is a drug) at the start and then they adjust the does? Sounds like this quack is a cousin of Hewey Duewy and Screwy.

Brianna I think it's time you find another doctor like now

i'm hoping my GP is back or i can go see my endo again. either one would help me. this is becoming a serious problem, because i dont know how long i can keep my dysphoria in check anymore after what happened today

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 11, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
i hope i can get in contact with my endo because this is turning into a serious situation.

This is who I thought you were seeing today...
That's the person to be talking to about getting started on HRT.
Not a surgeon, not a psychiatrist, so take your letter from your therapist and go see the endo to get started.
You're getting the runaround here or talking to the wrong people.
You have a letter of recommendation from your therapist?
Who set up the appointment to see a surgeon?
I don't know where you are, but here, informed consent is pretty much all you need, but a letter gets you farther.
I get mine from a medical Dr who also writes scripts for HRT, but with a letter, even my regular Dr can prescribe them if they are at all familiar with HRT.
HRT just isn't that hard for them to look up and find a dose that's right for you.
It's not like you're asking for narcotics... It's Spiro and E now or pretty soon, right after you start Spiro and it's working OK.
Somebody is leading you astray from who you should be seeing or you're getting this all mixed up.
You have the letter, you see an endo and you get a brief physical and the talk about side effects, because you are using Spiro for one of it's side effects.
You should be able to get an appointment within a week. Once you're stable on Spiro, you get E in one of the different ways there are.
Some get them together, right away. You don't need to see a surgeon or psychiatrist to get the scripts.

Quote from: Ativan Prescribed on July 11, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
This is who I thought you were seeing today...
That's the person to be talking to about getting started on HRT.
Not a surgeon, not a psychiatrist, so take your letter from your therapist and go see the endo to get started.
You're getting the runaround here or talking to the wrong people.
You have a letter of recommendation from your therapist?
Who set up the appointment to see a surgeon?
I don't know where you are, but here, informed consent is pretty much all you need, but a letter gets you farther.
I get mine from a medical Dr who also writes scripts for HRT, but with a letter, even my regular Dr can prescribe them if they are at all familiar with HRT.
HRT just isn't that hard for them to look up and find a dose that's right for you.
It's not like you're asking for narcotics... It's Spiro and E now or pretty soon, right after you start Spiro and it's working OK.
Somebody is leading you astray from who you should be seeing or you're getting this all mixed up.
You have the letter, you see an endo and you get a brief physical and the talk about side effects, because you are using Spiro for one of it's side effects.
You should be able to get an appointment within a week. Once you're stable on Spiro, you get E in one of the different ways there are.
Some get them together, right away. You don't need to see a surgeon or psychiatrist to get the scripts.

i was seeing an endo but she said go see an OB/GYN so i went to see one today and just....ugh! i'm going back to my endo once my GP contacts her

You're getting a major runaround.
I'm finding it pretty hard to believe all of this.
There's more to this than you're talking about?
Why did the endo send you to see a OB/GYN?
I thought you just said it was a surgeon?
How does your GP fit into this?
Did you get a letter from a therapist?
This should be just step one, two, three....

lemme give you all the run down.
1. i got into therapy in april
2. got blood work down in april
3. went to see an endo for a consultation in may
4. got my letter in june
5. called my GP to ask my endo if i can get in early but she said i needed high dose Estrogen so she said to go see an OB/GYN
6. called an OB/GYN to schedule an appoint late june but it was pushed up to mid july
7. went to the OB/GYN today and had a very bad experience because he just basically said get out of my office but do come back when you have SRS

Skip the GP and schedule an appointment with an endo who knows what you want.
Leave the GP, and everyone else out of it.
You have the letter, your GP is talking crap and doesn't get it, the OB/GYN has nothing to do with it.
Go see the endo. Period.

Quote from: Ativan Prescribed on July 11, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
Skip the GP and schedule an appointment with an endo who knows what you want.
Leave the GP, and everyone else out of it.
You have the letter, your GP is talking crap and doesn't get it, the OB/GYN has nothing to do with it.
Go see the endo. Period.

no it was my endo who said i needed to see an OB/GYN. my GP was only relaying the message. i can go back to see her but if i have my GP call her explaining the situation directly, i'll get in earlier. apparently i'd need to be on the edge for anyone to take notice. i know this is a process but damn it all i dont need all this roundabout. i guess its because i'm half way into puberty since i started late and now that i've dived in to this, i'm starting to feel the full affects. god i should of waited until later on. at least than i wouldnt be this far gone

Given that timeline, I can *almost* understand him saying that - OB/GYNs specialize in vaginas, after all, and so he probably *is* only seeing post-op women and handling their hormones as a "favor" in addition to his usual downstairs work. Once post-op a woman doesn't need intensive monitoring and dosage adjustment, after all, which he likely isn't qualified to do. (None of which, of course, excuses that he was also a rude jackass about it.)

The real question is why your endo, whose job description this IS, decided to refer you to him in the first place... I've never heard of anyone else being sent away from an endo like this.

For the life of me I cannot understand why you would be referred to an OBY/GYN? It's nonsensical. I'd be asking the endo if she has actually ever treated trans patients. Do you have a local community LGBT center, maybe they can suggest practitioners and endos in your area who are competent. Hugs.

Quote from: Ms Grace on July 11, 2014, 06:00:36 PM
For the life of me I cannot understand why you would be referred to an OBY/GYN? It's nonsensical. I'd be asking the endo if she has actually ever treated trans patients. Do you have a local community LGBT center, maybe they can suggest practitioners and endos in your area who are competent. Hugs.

idk iabout centers in my area. my endo is willing to help me but i guess she assumed i need high dose. its weird really. i'm just as puzzled but seeing as my GP is an internist, she may provide some direction because i'm sick of male doctors. i hope she is back because i have a follow up on tuesday with my GP

I'm sure Google will answer the question of local LGBT, just enter "LGBT gender support" and your city or state into it and see what it spits out. Having an endo who knows what they are doing is very different to one who is willing to help you. Again, I can't see why she would think a high starting dose is the way to go. Add that to the OB/GYN referral and I have to ask if she has a clue about treating M2F?