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Started by shanetastic, September 04, 2007, 12:47:35 AM

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Quote from: Berliegh on September 07, 2007, 04:59:06 AM
Quote from: Amy T. on September 06, 2007, 10:48:33 AM
Most transwoman tower above me.  I am 5'9", finding womens clothing is pretty easy for me, as I fall into a very standard size range as far as cloths and shoes too (even though at a womens 10 I am right at the edge).  I have fairly small spindly hands too.   

Being over 5'11" (anything over is outside of the normal female range) is a strike against you, but its not a total detraction.  Same goes for your large hands and feet.  Being 6'3" though is only a detraction for one thing in the long run: finding cloths.  It will be your face and your overall appearance that will be a much bigger detractor than anything else.  Your size may raise eyebrows, but it does not mean you will not pass.


I've not seen many genetic females anywhere near approaching 5' 11" (where do you live Amy? Germany?) most genetic famales are the average 5' 5".......I'm 5' 7" so I'm taller than the average female but most guys are taller than me...



I live in the US where women in the upper range (5'6"-5'10") are pretty common, but once it breaks 5'11" the percentage of women drops off a cliff.  Certain cities though...are the exception in the US and have a higher percentage of tall women because of genetic and ethnic backgrounds.

There is a statistical range considering height.  5'5" is an average, but there is range in which most of population falls before the percentages drop below 1%. 

This is just general statistics.  But at 5'9" I am  tall in the US for female, but not uncommon or rare.  Any female over 5'11" is very rare. 

http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/230_cumulative_percent_distribution_of_population_by.html

Its a little out of date, but still accurate for the most part.
Basically at 5'9" I fall into about 4% category.  Not to common, but not uncommon or even rare.
Generally speaking there is the 99% factor.  That is where the "normal" range begins and stops.  Anybody outside that range is considered very rare (which means less than 1% of the population is over that particular height). 
http://www.tallpages.com/uk/index.php?pag=ukstatist.php

The reason why US tends to closely follow Germany is the Caucasian population in ethnicity is heavily Eastern European, Irish, and you guessed it...German.  All of which track fairly tall for both men and women. African American women are often even taller.   It has come down a little in the US, but largely because of the increase in Latino population, which tends to be a bit shorter. 

Statistics are fun.
Generally speaking, people will be more likely to look at you because of this, but that does not impede passing, it just means it is something rare.  In fact if you pass it might be to your benefit, depending on other factors which are much more important and CAN be changed...like your face.  But you will get more looks and stares.  So if you are not a fan of unwanted attention, you better get used to it. 



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Berliegh

Quote from: Kate on September 07, 2007, 07:07:16 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on September 07, 2007, 04:59:06 AM
I've not seen many genetic females anywhere near approaching 5' 11" (where do you live Amy? Germany?) most genetic famales are the average 5' 5".......I'm 5' 7" so I'm taller than the average female but most guys are taller than me...

The woman I work with is around 6'1". Her teenage daughters are around 6'0" and 6'1"... and still growing.

My wife's friend was almost as tall as me.

I've seen women as tall or taller than me (6'2") when shopping. It's rare for sure, but not *bizarre* rare.

Yes, the *average* is much shorter, but I'm just saying it's not like being 6-footish is "omg! no way!" to people.

I'm in Pennsylvania, USA.

~Kate~

I actually think women in general are a lot taller in the U.S.A than in England, U.K
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Christine Eryn

I'm 5'9" and I pointed that out to my therapist as a negative about myself. She then said most supermodels are around that tall or taller. Gave me a little more confidence.  :)

But if there was some kind of shrink ray, I would like to be a bit shorter.
"There was a sculptor, and he found this stone, a special stone. He dragged it home and he worked on it for months, until he finally finished. When he was ready he showed it to his friends and they said he had created a great statue. And the sculptor said he hadn't created anything, the statue was always there, he just cleared away the small peices." Rambo III
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genopunk

Quote from: Amy T. on September 07, 2007, 04:51:26 PM

I live in the US where women in the upper range (5'6"-5'10") are pretty common, but once it breaks 5'11" the percentage of women drops off a cliff.  Certain cities though...are the exception in the US and have a higher percentage of tall women because of genetic and ethnic backgrounds.

There is a statistical range considering height.  5'5" is an average, but there is range in which most of population falls before the percentages drop below 1%. 

1% is still a very large number of people.  If one out of every hundred women I see is over 5'9"  I would say it is pretty common.  My girlfriend is 5'11" and passes quite well!  Often times we find ourselves in line at the store with a GG who is 2 or 3 inches taller than she is.  Height becomes an issue when you act like it is an issue.  Yes, I do know some girls who are 6'3" + , and they do have some issues with being outed due to size, but this I believe is in conjunction with other traits, and how they carry themselves.  I have a friend who is 6'4" and get compliments all the time on her looks, and her height.  She has been mistaken for a fashion model (an I once again think that this is due to the way she acts)

I am 5'9" and I get people telling me all the time that I am tall, so it is all relative.  If everyone you know is 5'4" then you will have a hard time if you are 6'4", but for most of us (at least in the US)  There is enough diversity of height that you will meet tall women regularly, and shouldn't have too much of an issue.  Sadly we are stuck with the height we have, so I would say that you need to concentrate more on your positives, and don't worry about the height.

The more you worry about it, the more it will become an issue.  Confidence will cure more things than you can imagine.

Hugs

Mila
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Berliegh

Quote from: Lianne on September 07, 2007, 02:09:13 PM
The grass always looks greener on the other side. I'm 5'5 and wish I was taller, even at the cost of larger feet and hands. But I guess we always want what we "think" we don't have.

you are just the right height Lianne .....I'm 5' 7" and for me personally it's too tall..
 
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Keira


Since there's only 0.3% of the female population in the US that's 6 foot and above (in 12M of population NYC metro area that would mean 30K) , I always found doubtfull when somebody claims to have seen a 6 foot 3 women (or two!!) when there are probably only about 1-2K women in NYC metro who would fit this bill!!

Almost every time when somebody claims to me that so and so is taller than me I find that this isn't true at all when I meet them in person (I find that somehow disapointing, I want there to be many taller women than me). Quebec women on average are even smaller than the US average at 63 inch, which means there's just 1000 women 6 foot and above in the whole 4M Montreal metro area (I've never seen any of them).

In the younger US population, there may be a 1 inch average height advantage over 30 years ago (debatable since US height progress has stagnated lately), which would translate to probably 0.5% (instead of 0.3% ) of women being taller or equal to 6 foot. In some limited geographical regions with specific population mix, this undoubtably goes up to 1%, but again 6 foot 3 women would still be at less than a tenth of percent there.
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Berliegh

Quote from: Ashley Michelle on September 10, 2007, 08:52:27 AM
i have two girls in my law school class of 90 who are above 6 ft.

If I moved to the U.S.A I'd look quite small then at 5' 7"........
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shanetastic

Quote from: Berliegh on September 11, 2007, 04:45:30 AM
Quote from: Ashley Michelle on September 10, 2007, 08:52:27 AM
i have two girls in my law school class of 90 who are above 6 ft.

If I moved to the U.S.A I'd look quite small then at 5' 7"........

I'd say pretty average :)  Tall in the area in which I live is probably above 5'9''.
trying to live life one day at a time
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Wing Walker

I never gave my height a second thought, nor the size of my hands.  I had a friend who was 5'6" whose hands and fingers were massive by comparison to mine.  I wore a size 10 ring and she couldn't get it past the second joint on her ring finger.

I used to think of myself as tall until I began to notice how many younger women are as tall as me (5'11.5") or taller, and wider.  I don't know about the stats on height for women in any given place but I have been a part of the crowd in the U.S. and Canada at times and I am by no means tall enough to get a second look.

For me, I am as I was made and I am proud and happy to be me.  I dress according to my activity, keep my hair styled somehow, my nails done, and until someone decides to make restaurants for people not as tall as me only, I go on about my business.

Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.  Be happy with who you are and consider if you can contribute to the happiness of others.  That seems to keep my mind off the trivia in life.

Wing Walker

Posted on: September 12, 2007, 12:15:07 AM
How do I overcome being 5 ft 11.5 in tall, with somewhat large hands and other skeletal parts that I was born with?

Simple:  I pay it no mind.

There are many tall ones with broad shoulders and sturdy hands among women younger than I am.  I don't worry about fitting in nearly as much as they do.  I shop wherever I please, try before I buy, and walk like I am the most confident woman there is.  That's because I might just be her.

It's not hard to enjoy yourself, who you are and as you are, with appropriate clothing, hair style, and makeup. 

"As to beauty, I know I'm no star.  There are others more pretty by far.  But my face, I don't mind it because I'm behind it.  It's the people in front that I jar."  --- Abraham Lincoln, or so I'm told

Hope this helps.

Wing Walker
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Hypatia

Quote from: Wing Walker on September 22, 2007, 06:07:34 AMFor me, I am as I was made and I am proud and happy to be me.

Right on--that's the perfect statement on this question.

QuoteSimple:  I pay it no mind.

There's the difference between us: I positively enjoy being 5'10". Tall women are hot.

I don't care in the slightest whether I pass. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. What I do care about is being elegant and beautiful in my own way, which I have a talent for. My height only helps.

Another thing my short friend pointed out to me: Tall women naturally tend to have a more robust bone structure, proportional to our stature. So we're not as freakish as we might perceive ourselves.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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cindybc

Hi

I am 5'3" tall 120lbs and I have cultivated my hair to the length as you see it in my photo to the left of this window, the photo was taken last winter.

I suppose I could say I slowly transitioned over the course of ten years until 7years ago when I came out full time and I had the surgery four years ago a grand total of 13 years all tole.. Maybe I was lucky but not a soul has given me the gears or dandruff over who I present, who I present is who I am. Just another woman.

Hmmm back when I was younger i actually hated to be the tiniest among my male friends. How little did I know that I would some day feel that my shortness would be a blessing. The only disadvantage is I need to drag a chair around to get stuff on the top shelf in the cupboards.

There are so many twists and turns and trials on the road of life that we have to suffer through in order to get where you want to be. But once one gets there and becomes comfortable in their own skin then the twists and  turns and tribulations in the road of life gets smoother and easier to navigate.

Cindy
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