me too, Brandon

Quote from: Ryan B. on July 15, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
I have done external things with a partner... so I guess that rules me out. Still think this is bs. It should be up to the individual. I feel like it's my body so it should be my choice. =/

Not aimed at anyone in the thread; just more ranting... ---> All I want is to start hrt. I think it's getting close to the 2 year mark now, on how long I've been trying to start. Everytime I think that I'm close, something else is forced on me or... just more bad news.

I express my worries to my parents, my aunt... even to one of my best friends and no one even tries to understand where I'm coming from. One of 'em even had the gall to say "its not super invasive" ... yeah, right.. my worries, my fears and my feelings are not valid.

I'm sorry, I keep whining. The more I continue to think about it, the more frustrated and angry I feel..

It's okay man, sometimes it can be really daunting with everyone around you telling you to do something you aren't comfortable with. Maybe you can ask for alternatives and talk to your nurse about why she is trying to push this. Give her the evidence and tell her that if she can't trust you that you will find another person if this a possibility. I'm really sorry this is all happening, and I hope you are well.

Quote from: campenella on July 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
It's okay man, sometimes it can be really daunting with everyone around you telling you to do something you aren't comfortable with. Maybe you can ask for alternatives and talk to your nurse about why she is trying to push this. Give her the evidence and tell her that if she can't trust you that you will find another person if this a possibility. I'm really sorry this is all happening, and I hope you are well.

Yeah... I'll do that. I'm just, really worried. I really hope she listens to me; I really don't want to have to go to someone else. I like my nurse practitioner. She's always been nice and easy to talk to and has always listened to my concerns... up until now I guess. I didn't really know enough about paps to put up much of a fight yesterday though.

I'm a little frustrated with myself too... like I should suck it up and push forward (but I don't know how I could even begin to do that without sedation).

I've been searching google for ways to get out of having a pap done and keep getting conflicting information and stuff that just leads to dead ends (like the CSA test)... and it's just not really helping me any.

Quote from: Ryan B. on July 15, 2014, 04:24:43 PM
Yeah... I'll do that. I'm just, really worried. I really hope she listens to me; I really don't want to have to go to someone else. I like my nurse practitioner. She's always been nice and easy to talk to and has always listened to my concerns... up until now I guess. I didn't really know enough about paps to put up much of a fight yesterday though.

I'm a little frustrated with myself too... like I should suck it up and push forward (but I don't know how I could even begin to do that without sedation).

I've been searching google for ways to get out of having a pap done and keep getting conflicting information and stuff that just leads to dead ends (like the CSA test)... and it's just not really helping me any.

Dude its not really about sucking it up if you know its gonna make you uncomfortable then don't do it I know that there are  other ways of detecting thoes types of things.

Seriously thats like making a girl who was raped get one done.

Besides going to someone else I can't find any alternatives.

My mom works at the clinic and she just told me that my np said it's to get a baseline before I start hrt. How is that a baseline? I thought getting a baseline was getting blood work done..

Quote from: Ryan B. on July 15, 2014, 05:08:48 PM
Besides going to someone else I can't find any alternatives.

My mom works at the clinic and she just told me that my np said it's to get a baseline before I start hrt. How is that a baseline? I thought getting a baseline was getting blood work done..

Yea your actually suppose to get blood work done first not a pap and Ive never heard of any guy who had to get a pap before T.

Ryan it has nothing to do with a baseline of your levels, a pap does not detect that, please ask them to provide proof of that and tell them that they need to do a blood test to get your levels done. It doesn't give a baseline for anything. Don't force yourself to do it because they're giving you misinformation. Can you tell her in an email that you know what paps are for and that you want a blood test done? I'm more than a little worried that she's trying to push it this far.

Quote from: Ryan B. on July 15, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
I have done external things with a partner... so I guess that rules me out. Still think this is bs. It should be up to the individual. I feel like it's my body so it should be my choice. =/

Not aimed at anyone in the thread; just more ranting... ---> All I want is to start hrt. I think it's getting close to the 2 year mark now, on how long I've been trying to start. Everytime I think that I'm close, something else is forced on me or... just more bad news.

I express my worries to my parents, my aunt... even to one of my best friends and no one even tries to understand where I'm coming from. One of 'em even had the gall to say "its not super invasive" ... yeah, right.. my worries, my fears and my feelings are not valid.

I'm sorry, I keep whining. The more I continue to think about it, the more frustrated and angry I feel..

If your partner didn't participate in any type of sexual activity with anyone prior to being with you, you have nothing to worry about. Even if that wasn't the case, you're terribly low-risk, especially if you're getting a hysterectomy in the next few years. I don't recommend skipping it if you are at all considered at risk, but it shouldn't be required of you if you don't want to do it - even if it's recommended. This seems like manipulation to me. She wants you to get tested, and she knows you want testosterone, so she's using it like a carrot on a stick.

Well, I wonder if my mom meant with a baseline... a pap with a baseline. I know I'm supposed to get blood work done at some point.

I haven't talked to my np yet... I'll send her an email once I get my thoughts organized.