haha never! I shall attain eternal youth by playing rock n roll. It is the secret to staying forever young!!!! I've said too much 

Meh...I'm hideous and I'm fine with that.

It's awesome

People throw themselves at your feet when you walk in the room
you get free things all the time
every person, male, female, trans, even the ones who aren't sure all want to be you or date you
doors are always opened
you don't even have to speak in job interviews and you get them.....

I was going out with two other girlsfriends. After sitting a while on our table the first man came to ask one of my girlfriends to have a drink, after a while another man came and ask the other girlfriend. I got no drink and i wasnt ask by a man. I was never ask by man and there is nobody opens the door for me. There's also nobody who say i'm pretty or had a good progress the last years.

I hesitated to post because my inherent sense of modesty says I am not pretty but looking back 40 years, to when I first transitioned, the evidence says otherwise. I was tall, lean, and with a modest figure and a pleasing face. What Nicole says is a pretty good summary of what life is like for a pretty girl.

I was terribly naive when I first transitioned and not equipped to handle the amount and type of attention I attracted from the opposite sex. It was very heady stuff and just wonderful for my sense of self, to go from 'freak' to popular girl, but I wasn't very considerate of men - I was enjoying "catch & release" - picking a guy I liked, have a one-night fling, and then look for another. My naivety led me into a bad situation and I ended up as a "trophy wife" to an ambitious man. That only lasted a few months until I figured out that he didn't really give a shyte about me as long as I was on his arm for public viewing. After that I became very skeptical and cynical and had a hard time trusting anyone.

I did marry a second time but he had to pursue me for months before I even accepted a first date.

That was all a long time ago, 40 years ago, and I am no longer slender. I have aged well but am no longer as attractive as I once was and certainly don't attract the same degree of interest but I look around at the really attractive younger women I know and I see them struggling with the same issues - guys see an attractive  woman as a physical conquest but don't see and don't care about the PERSON inside that attractive body. It is a very superficial thing, very transitory, and singularly unfulfilling. Most of my male friends now have known me for years and are friends because they enjoy my company. IT is much nicer if the friendship comes first and the attraction second.

Would I rather have been much more plane? No, it was good for my sense of self but it wasn't without its down-side.

Quote from: crp512 on July 22, 2014, 07:29:43 PM



Just posted on your before and after - you truly are beautiful inside and out - seems more appropriate to say here.  I am so glad to see you smile and be happy!   -carrie

I found your posts!  Welcome to Susan's. 

Big Hugs,

Jen

Once again a Susan's topic has stimulated my thought processes. Thanks for starting this one, Galaxy.

While attractiveness is a very subjective perception, there are traits considered pretty that seem to be consistent throughout most of mankind. However, even the prettiest people often don't seem to feel that way themselves. I never considered myself the least bit attractive growing up, but looking back this was more due to a poor (and incorrect) self image than anything else. I'm pretty sure I've always been better than average in the looks department, though not movie star good looking. I partially base this on the number of attractive women (and sometimes men) who shown interest in me throughout my (fairly long) life. As an andro-fem person now, I occasionally receive a wolf whistle or an obviously admiring stare and I'm no spring chicken.

Misinterpreted self-perception is probably more the norm than not. I've read countless interviews with super gorgeous movie stars and models who thought they looked ordinary right up until fame made it no longer possible. Then again, I have met people who seemed to think of themselves as more attractive than I saw them.

I suppose the only way to know how it feels to be pretty is to align the following:

1. Be/make yourself reasonably attractive as seems to be perceived in your culture (or as close as possible).

2. Develop a great, but honest self image of yourself.

3. Find someone who perceives you as attractive (and there probably is, no matter what you think now).

Quote from: galaxy on July 23, 2014, 04:25:59 AM
I was going out with two other girlsfriends. After sitting a while on our table the first man came to ask one of my girlfriends to have a drink, after a while another man came and ask the other girlfriend. I got no drink and i wasnt ask by a man. I was never ask by man and there is nobody opens the door for me. There's also nobody who say i'm pretty or had a good progress the last years.

You shouldn't let that discourage you.

I'm struck by how so much of the conversation is about finding people to date. It's a salient issue but the effect of physical attractiveness encompasses so much more than that. There have been books written on the topic:
http://www.amazon.com/Looks-They-Matter-More-Imagined/dp/0814480543/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0W6R9WJ1R63YBDQC9PMA

No comment ...
http://www.amazon.com/Survival-Prettiest-The-Science-Beauty/dp/0385479425/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y

From that book
"The idea that beauty is unimportant or a cultural construct is the real beauty myth. We have to understand beauty, or we will always be enslaved by it."

Well don't we already know that? I have no desire to 'breed' yet I know/feel beauty plays a large biological role even if you arent necessarily in it for the "Survival' aspect

Love the corset on the cover btw

That's an interesting topic for a book, but I have to side with one of the Amazon commenters in keeping the importance of beauty in perspective. While being pretty is an undeniable advantage in human survival, it's only one of several. Anyone who has walked through a crowded Wal-Mart store knows there are plenty of unattractive people who are somehow managing to be sexually appealing enough to produce a flock of offspring.

I bring this up because it seems easy for transgender people to (understandably) become a bit overly obsessed with the importance of appearance. In my own observation through life the value of how a person looks rates only about 50% of their overall appeal, the other 50% being how the are.

Beauty is relative thus subjective to every human being so what any one person thinks about me, or anyone really, has no value socially to me whether it's positive or negative. I've been told I am sexy, beautiful, gorgeous and then I've been told I am disgusting, ugly and gross. Today, however, I don't really care if someone thinks I am ugly or beautiful, just don't care.