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Started by Bimmer Guy, December 28, 2013, 10:42:57 AM

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aleon515

I agree with you both with the way you have your arms out, probably makes it look more exaggerated but there is some fat under the arms (and his explanation sound valid). I don't know if working out helps or not. Though it would build up your pecs which can't hurt the appearance. I do think this is less drastic than one I have seen elsewhere.

I don't really know re: the scars. I don't know how revision of scars works in people who have keloid scars, wouldn't you just scar from the revision? Or are there ways to mitigate that to some extent.


--Jay
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SX0877

Quote from: Brett on July 20, 2014, 06:14:27 PM
Thanks, SXO.  Like I said, I actually moved my arms into the position where it looks the worst for the camera.  It just bugs me every time I look at it, so I really might get some free lipo done.

I need to get back to working out.  I was pretty religious about it before surgery and I have always gone back and forth with being committed to cardio and weights, or just cardio.  Then I get off track...you know how it goes.  Anyway, I wondered if working out would decrease the fat on the sides.  Logical, right?  But, since I never had that before I thought maybe it was connected to the surgery.  So, I asked him about it.

I find the whole scar tissue blocking the ability of gravity to do its job, interesting.  Anyway, I thought my long tale might be useful to someone as like I said, I have seen it before. 

Thanks for your thoughts and good wishes.

I have some underarm fat on one side (actually i don't know if that is just my fat or breast tissue), it was not very noticeable at the beginning, but now it shows when I tighten my pec/shoulder muscles. The muscles kind of push the fat out to a more noticeable position.
I only work out occasionally but I'm on T so I have been gaining muscle mass and fat altogether for about 10-15 lbs since the surgery. So I guess losing fat might be more helpful than putting on muscle to solve this. But based on your photo, you definitely don't look like you need to lose weight, so going for a free lipo should be the easiest fix.
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Bimmer Guy

SXO, I actually DO need to lose weight (my weight has never been this high...or rather my gut has never been this big), but thank you!


Quote from: aleon515 on July 20, 2014, 07:40:03 PM
I agree with you both with the way you have your arms out, probably makes it look more exaggerated but there is some fat under the arms (and his explanation sound valid). I don't know if working out helps or not. Though it would build up your pecs which can't hurt the appearance. I do think this is less drastic than one I have seen elsewhere.

I don't really know re: the scars. I don't know how revision of scars works in people who have keloid scars, wouldn't you just scar from the revision? Or are there ways to mitigate that to some extent.


--Jay

Keloid scars are different from hypertrophics.  People often use the terms interchangeably, unfortunately.

Keloids are the really bad ones to have.  Usually it impacts individuals of African- American decent (and maybe some other dark skinned minority groups...I'm sorry I can't remember).  Keloids are the ones that can get really huge and cauliflower like.  Those almost always come back after scar revision.  Very, very hard to treat.

Hypertrophic is not genetic, and are really quite random.  I would of course still scar from the revision, but I was hoping to have a normal scar...like yours, like anyone elses.  You can google pictures of hypertrophics.  Sometimes the revised scars don't become hypertrophic, but the chance is high that they will.  I read about people who typically get hypertrophic scars getting shots of cortisone every two weeks while the fresh incision heals to try to keep it from getting hypertrophic, but Garramone wasn't convinced that this would make a difference.

In terms of working out for the puffy sides, right, it wouldn't make a difference, as it is a scar tissue issue.  I will do the massage, as he suggests.

Thanks for coming in, Jay!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Jeatyn

Hi everyone! I know it's been ages since I popped in, I still don't have any photos to show but I wanted to say why.

I got a new phone, and apparently this particular model has serious issues with the camera, mostly it just crashes the entire thing when I try and take a picture. I thought I had finally cracked it when I realised about half an hour ago that it had a front camera. All seemed to be going well...until I tried to get them onto my computer, when it tells me they're "corrupt or missing" .... soooo .... yeeeah  :P no photos I'm afraid. There's a regular digital camera somewhere in the house but I can't find it  :(

I don't really feel like that much has changed anyway. I had my 6 month post op appointment not that long ago so I guess I'm around the 6 month mark at this point, I've lost track :D

We discussed revisions, reducing the length of my nipples, dog ears...and the poofy bits in the middle of my chest. Before he could say anything though I told him I wanted to build up some muscle and lose some fat before getting anything else done, give him a better canvas to work with.

He agreed to see me again in another 6 months to see how I was getting on and if I felt I needed a revision. I'm not entirely sure that's enough time for me to get my body to a place where I'd consider it stable enough to go for a revision but we'll see. I've been so lazy with working out since surgery but I'm back on track now....on an exercise bike right this second in fact  :P

I'm really not sure about the nipple thing, though I have noticed that my nips do look permanently erect under thin shirts :P it's just the idea of having the ends of them sliced off....ick =/
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BGking

9 Days Post-op update to inform all prospective guys on what they could experience after surgery.
Type: Peri-Areolar (Less invasive procedure)
Surgeon: Dr. Rockmore

I haven't felt much pain since the surgery. I was just very tired and slept for a large majority of the first week. I was prescribed weak pain killers (Percocets and an antibiotic). I didn't have a problem with either, just make sure you eat before taking them. My drains and stitches were removed two days ago. It felt very strange to have someone pull plastic tubing out of a hole in your skin but it wasn't painful; it just burned a lot. Since then I've felt 100% better than with them in. They were very irritating and kinda itchy where they were located under my arms. Now that they're gone, I feel a little less tired and less sore. Most of my left pec is still numb and my right is sore. I still have medical tape on my left because it wasn't ready to come off when the stitches were removed. The dr said the tape will fall off when it is ready. I've just been sponge bathing because I'm afraid to shower (Gross I know, I hate feeling dirty but I'm really nervous to shower). Now I'm wearing a compression vest and am just resting. But really all I can say as of now is that there hasn't been too much pain. So I hoped this helps anyone gauge the early recovery stage. I'll keep you guys updated. Here are some pictures from two days ago. (The purple is just marker and there's some dried blood around my nipples).

P.S. Anyone know any good ways to shower without ruining anything? :P



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BGking

Quote from: chipper on July 24, 2014, 07:28:09 AM
Looking good BGking. I was also in Rockmores office 2 days ago...small world. Wonder if I saw you!

Thanks man! :) Oh wow that's crazy, what time were you there? I arrived around 1:15pm and left at about 2pm. There were several people in the waiting room when I got there so it's definitely a possibility! :P
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BGking

Quote from: chipper on July 24, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
Whoa, I was there around the same time!!!
I arrived at like 1:25... left around 2pm as well. I was wearing jeans and a white t-shirt.
Whens your next follow-up appointment? I go back in September.
Do you live nearby? If you ever wanna rendezvous, I'm game.
Happy healing, amigo... your chest looks AWESOME.

No way dude! Yeah I think I did see you, did you have a hat on by chance? My next follow up is in one month; late August I believe. I don't live in NY but in Southern Massachusetts. And yeah dude definitely game, once I'm recovered a little more if you ever wanna do something just message me or someway and we can try to get together. Thanks dude!
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Jeatyn

Haha this is crazy this is the second meetup that's happened because of this thread :D

*waves to Maximusflavius* .... I know you're lurking there somewhere

I got my camera to work at last, huzzah, you can now all be graced with my godly physique

7 months ish post op




PS: BGKing, Dayum! To the chest and the rest of it :D As for showering, do you perhaps have a poncho? That might work.
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BGking

Hahah wow I didn't realize this thread has brought others together, and thank you on the compliment. :) You look incredible! You're only 7 months? Those lines are faded quite well for that amount of time! :)

I don't have a poncho, unfortunately. I'm just scared the water pressure will damage or hurt my chest as I don't have shower that can change settings. Can you feel your chest? My right is almost back to full feeling but my left (bandaged side) is still almost completely numb. It's strange. Must've "dug" a little deeper on that side as I believe it contained more tissue than the other. XD
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Jeatyn

I got my feeling completely back a few days after surgery...it sucked, I had to go back and beg for pain meds. All good now though!

The first thing I did when I got home was attempt to shower but I had my partner just sorta hose me down avoiding the chest xD it felt like ages before I was able to give everything a good scrub and get all the stickiness and pen marks off, baby wipes are a good alternative until you can do it properly.
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Jay76

Quote from: Elliot on January 22, 2014, 08:56:41 AM
Congrats to everyone here on finally getting surgery! I had my surgery 6 weeks ago, was unfortunate enough to loose my left nipple graft but strangely it's still healed really well and looks a lot like a nipple so I'm not too bothered. My scars are still pretty red as it's so recent, but in terms of the general shape and appearance I'm really pleased.






Looks good, I had top surgery 10 days ago and have a lot of swelling especially on the right. Just wondered whether you had significant swelling? Also did you have a large chest originally?
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Bimmer Guy

BGking.  Your chest looks fantastic!  Thanks for the thorough write up and pictures.  It has been two days since you have written, so you have probably figured out the shower by now!  Garramone just had us guys keep our backs to the shower heads and slowing let the water wash over our backs down our chests.  I just would gently put soapy water across my areolas with my hands.  He told me to not face the shower head for 3 weeks.

Jeatyn, your chest looks really great!  Wow that is some good scar healing very fast.  I am happy for you.  Your chest came out really well.  Thank you for the updated picture!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Ayden

Surgery date: 7/24/2014
Surgeon: Dr. Garramone


I finally get to join this thread! So, sorry for the lateness of this post. I've been enjoying an excuse to be extremely lazy and not do anything. Honestly, I need to stop being quite as lazy, as I really need to get back to my usual activities. Anyway, I'll sum up my entire experience here.

I actually ended up leaving Osaka around 1pm on July 21st and arriving in florida around 7:30-8pm on the same day thanks to the international dateline. I met my bestie/sister there in Ft. Lauderdale at the airport and we took a cab to the Comforte Suite hotel that Dr. G's office recommends. A word of warning, don't take independent cabs in Ft. Lauderdale; they are just scalpers. Go with yellow cab. It wouldn't have been a problem if I had thought to call ahead for a shuttle or get a temp cell phone before I even arrived in the country since I was not going to take my Japanese cellphone and get insane charges.

Since I live in Asia, I decided to get my physical and clearance through a local doctor in Florida rather than trying to locate an English speaking doctor here who could do the medical paperwork to the satisfaction of an American surgeon. I went to the doctor that Dr. G's office told me about on the 22nd and they were great. It was a quick in and out, fairly close to the hotel and the doctor was really nice (and nice looking to boot). Turns out I'm pretty darn healthy, aside from needing to lose a little weight, which I already knew. I was able to do a walk in with their office at around 9am, and I was out by 11, I think. From there we went to walmart and stocked up on more than enough things and an ungodly amount junk food. Ever since we were kids, the second my best and I get together we revert to being daring 7 year olds who think that our stomachs are made of iron and that very small graphical errors on video games are the most hilarious thing in the world. She also suggested picking up some canned soups which, as it turned out, was a very good idea. We did order out a few times, but that was because I wanted to. We really wouldn't have had to at all.

The 23rd was the pre-op and I was scheduled for 11am. I arrived, checked in and found out from Jodi that my bloodwork had not been faxed over. I called the doctor's office, had a mini panic attack and ended up waiting until 1pm to be seen. I'm not sure if this was because of the paperwork (which had still not arrived when I was called back) or because of how busy he was. There were so many other guys in there that it was crazy. I mean, I know that there are a lot more of us out there than who are on here, but honestly, I had never expected to see so many guys there like me. It was kind of interesting. Though, I believe I was the only gay one, which was made funnier by the fact that everyone assumed S was my girlfriend. Anyway, pre-op was short and sweet, couple of pictures and I had to lose my nipple piercings, but I'm getting those puppies back eventually, if only for aesthetics. I was given three prescriptions (antibiotic, painkiller, nausea meds) and I went ahead and purchased the arnica and the bromelain, as well as the scarguard from his office. I probably would have been fine without the herbals, but I figured it couldn't hurt and frankly, I think they did help. They told me if it was a cost issue to just get scarguard, but after the amount of money I had put in a little more wasn't going to hurt. His office is located near a Publix and they offer a pretty good discount on the prescriptions from his office, so its certainly not a huge deal to pick them up in Florida.

As it turned out, I was the first surgery of the day on 7/24, so I had to get there at 6am. After some paperwork, the surgical center fee and a urine sample I was taken back to the pre-op area. I forgot my compression socks in the hotel room, but I actually ended up not needing them at all since they have heated leg massaging things they put on you in the OR. After getting dressed in my lovely gown and getting settled in the bed I got to meet the anesthesiologist and the RN who was in the OR with me. They were both quite nice and the nurse had an excellent manner. I had a conch piercing which gave them some trouble getting out (I also wasn't able to get it back in, sadly). S was brought back with me and she and I ended up chatting and, as per usual, laughing like hyenas. Dr. G. came back and drew on my chest. I was really relieved to see that he was awake and alert, since I am a terrible morning person. The nurse thought we were amusing and even commented that I apparently didn't need "happy drugs" in my IV. When they did give me the benzo, I have to say, that was awesome. Everything was great. My nurse that I probably wouldn't remember anything, but I do remember a good deal compared to what I've heard others say. In the OR I was moved to another table, covered with a toasty blanket, had my arms strapped out and the leg massagers put on. I remember telling the nurses about Alaska and live in Osaka and when the anethesia was put in my IV it burned a little. I remember complaining to the anesthesiologist that she needed to "heat up the drugs before she molested me with them", then taking two deep breathe from the oxygen mask, everything getting fuzzy and nothing. I woke up in the recovery room and I was in pain. Apparently I woke up way too early and I was given from demerol for the pain, though for some reason the nurse gave me a shot instead of putting in my IV (a fact that I still am kinda ticked about). S was brought back early my mistake and I remember her talked to me and I think I was complaining to her about hurting. Anyway, I dozed back off and I apparently I slept for two more hours. It was after 11 when I finally woke up, and I could still feel a decent amount of pain. The nurse wouldn't give me anything else, and in hindsight she knew what she was doing. I was pissed though.

The next several days were actually a lot easier than I thought they would be. I slept that first day and its pretty much a haze. But, after that I was fine and aside from some drowsiness from the pain medication I didn't sleep any more than normal. I just did so in weird bursts and my hours are still wonky. I'm waking up at 5:30am and falling asleep at like, 9. I had a draining problem with my right drain that we had to go back to the surgical center to address. The nurse showed us how to empty the drains but she did not tell us how to strip them in the event that they became clogged, which is exactly what happened with my right one. I went in the day after surgery, maybe about 24 hours after surgery and Dr. G stripped the drain and showed us how to do it. He was really sweet about it and was pretty surprised by how much sensation I had. I could feel the vacuum in the drain basically suck a lot of fluid out. It was weirdest feeling, and it hurt a decent bit. He patted my shoulder a few times and told me "Don't worry, you're fine buddy!" It ended up being a good thing that I went in though, because the bulb was a malfunctioning one and the drain stopper that prevented fluid from going back up popped out when he stripped the drain. They changed it free of charge and I was in and out in maybe an hour and half, though it only took so long because Dr. G was in surgery. That and the constipation are the only hiccups I have had in recovery thus far.

My range of movement is coming back great, and I can get around a lot better than I thought I would be able to. The only strange thing is the differed sensation from the nerves and the weird pulling sensation I get around my left nipple. Its painful, just really weird. My nipples look icky, but I think that's to be expected. I'll post pictures eventually. I have A LOT of sensation though, and the only numbness is my scars a small area around them. I can feel some stinging in the nipple grafts when water his them and I can feel pressure and some sensation when I put the xeroform and nerosporin on.

The flight back wasn't too bad, I managed to get around fine. I would say to anyone travelling internationally get as direct a route as possible like I did and avoid JFK if possible, That airport was a damn nightmare for me.

So, with the overview out of the way, I'll get into a couple specifics:

Dr. Garramone was really, really sweet. I don't get what the complaints about his bedside manner are. He was friendly, relaxed, open, professional and generally just very comfortable to be around. His staff were great, all of my questions were answered in a timely fashion and I have no complaints. When my paperwork had not cleared, I told them the name of the doctor and that was the end of that. Jodi and Dr. Garramone said that they knew the doctor I saw and he was excellent about getting results to them. In the event that they had not had them at the end of the business day, Dr. Garramone said he knew he would have them in the morning no problem. I honestly can't think of a single complaint about the practice, and after my reveal, I felt very confident that I had made the right choice. Due to my weight (I'm not huge, I'm just stocky and a bit heavy at the moment, though I am already losing weight) I was concerned about dogearring and needing lipo, but after taking the tape off the incisions (I did so in the shower last night) I have no puckering, no dogearring, my incisions are flat and for the most part very straight. I have very little swelling that is already noticeably less and I had only a slight amount of bruising. I honestly can't even imagine myself going anywhere else.

I do have one warning I want to give to others though: Dr. G DOES NOT take chest tattoos into consideration when placing nipples. So, if you are anal about your tattoos potentially being disrupted by a nipple being grafted on top of them you may want to reconsider surgeons or talk to him during your consultation. My right nipple is placed partially in my tattoo and my left just barely covers a bit of it. I don't really mind and it doesn't screw up my ink all that much, but if it had been an elaborate one it may have ended up looking worse. I don't regret my choice at all, but some people may.

Another thing I wanted to mention was my choice of lodging (very happy with) and weird encounter my friend had. After a lot of thought I decided against NBR. A lot of people swear by it, but it just didn't sit right with me for some reason. I already dislike being around a lot of strangers and I never liked bed and breakfasts, so I didn't see the appeal at all. The selling point of 'you can meet a lot people' was not appealing to me and I wasn't really going there to be social. I know I could have stayed in my room, but it would have still been staying in someone's home essentially. I didn't need company or anything like that since S and I are really quite skilled at entertaining ourselves. We laughed at emulator program because it was called 'sluss' for about, I'm sadly not kidding, 15 minutes. I nearly pee'd myself. So I was not worried about being bored. Yes, we had to take cabs, but it wasn't that much really, and even with buying my own food for the hotel (every room comes with a fridge and microwave since they have a lot of post-op recovery stays) and paying for cabs, it ended up being the same price if not a little less than going to NBR. The day of surgery, I didn't need to take cabs at all, as the office set me up with a car service free of charge there and back to the hotel. It was an excellent service. The only hiccup was that the guy who had surgery after me left at the same time (since I slept for so long after) and thanks to his mother and my being insanely loopy the driver took five of us back to the hotel. I should have just taken the car since it was for me and not all of us, but I wasn't in the mindset to make any choices (normally I would have thrown a fit) and S didn't want to make me wait any longer since I really just wanted to get back and sleep. But, the important point is that it was free and still essentially being put in a van and driven back, so that was no different than if i had stayed at NBR.

At the surgical center, when I was in surgery, the owner of NBR came to the surgical center and was handing out his card and inviting people to come to the retreat for get together/social event. He was talking to another couple and tapped S on the shoulder, handed her his card and invited her and her partner to come hang out and chill with 'the guys'. It struck her as odd and it does to me too. I mean, its a surgical center that about 30 doctors work at and Dr. G wasn't the only one who had patients there. I'm sure he would say he was doing it be nice, but to me its just really, really weird. I mean, he handed out his card to random people and invited people who had just had surgery, who were staying in hotels and who couldn't shower or be presentable or in some cases sober thanks to pain meds, to come and hang out at his b&b/house. How did he knew she was with me? She wasn't wearing a sign, so unless he was looking at her computer while she messaged my husband to let him I know I was okay, that means he was just assuming random things about random people. That doesn't sit right with me. Its just a strange, kinda creepy and odd thing to do. So, thanks to that and a few other things I have been told and read, I am extremely happy I didn't go there.

The rides to from surgery, the cost which ended up being the same if not cheaper, the weird encounter and the fact that I met one of the nurses that Dr. Garramone puts the guys traveling alone in touch with and she was very sweet, I honestly can't see any reason why they are a better choice than a hotel. Unless you are exceedingly social or can't manage on your own, I don't think its worth it. That's just me. I'm sure the owner is a nice enough guy, and I don't have anything against him. This is just my opinion and my thoughts, so don't take anything I say as gospel or even personally. A lot of guys swear by their experiences, and a lot of them think it was not the best idea. I fall into the latter.

I've pretty much written a novel... yeesh. Sorry for the wall o'text. If anyone has any specific questions I will do my best to answer them. I have a couple of quick questions of my own for guys who went to Dr. G.

-Did you guys use the scarguard or did you go directly to using strips?
-Did you wear your ace bandage the two weeks after drain removal or did you wearing it for longer/shorter duration?
-Now much neosporin did you use over the xeroform and did it last all three weeks? I swear it looks like it isn't enough at all.
-How did you know you were healed enough to stop bandaging the nipples?

I'm so overly paranoid about screwing up my results.

ETA: I promised S that I would add that I was an awful patient and even if you can do something, probably don't if you don't have to and let someone else do it. I was okay to travel but I did tire much faster. I'm almost fine to do most things around my house but I have to keep telling myself its okay to harass my husband.
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aleon515

I'm not going to reply to all Ayden's stuff about NBR, except to say I had a decent stay. But it's good there are many options for for folks.

I'll just answer your questions here as I think I could. Also I agree that Dr G is a nice guy and has a business like manner. I was not turned off by it. I also liked his staff and found them helpful.

1. Don't use Scarguard. It flakes off and smells nasty. Your best choice and one you should try is the Scaraway strips. Some people have had luck with generics but I didn't. Your second is to use the scaraway gel. Scaraway stays on forever, but a disadvantage is that it dries slowly. Scarguard dries quickly because it has acetone or something in it. No one mentioned the smell but me. Bowled me over.
(Since you got the bottle, go ahead and use it up. It doesn't last long.)

2. I didn't exactly wear as long as he recommended as I think  this is a new thing. I kind of ended up stopping, I don't think I suffered for it. He wants you to remember you had top surgery. I am not 20 years old and wouldn't be doing anything dopey.
3. A regular sized tube lasted me the whole time. I don't think I had much left. You don't have to plaster it on. Less is more, as they say. More will just come off. You are trying to keep it moist that's the idea actually.
4. I kept with his recommendations. He says 3 weeks after he unwraps you, and that's what I did. I didn't do it a day longer than I needed to and was very sore and itchy and ready to take the darn things off.

I'm pretty independent and the only thing I didn't do when i got home is take out the trash and clean the cat litter box because they involved lifting more than 10 lbs.

Oh yeah and welcome to the clone army! :)

--Jay
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Ayden

Jay: thanks for info! I'm such a worrier. Maybe we should get a clone club lapel pin or something!

Like I hoped I had made clear, and I will say it again:  I have nothing against NBR. I'm sure it's a nice place and the owners are nice people. I am just glad I didn't stay there. I don't think me or S would have been comfortable.
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Kreuzfidel

6 Months Post-Op

Surgeon:  Dr. Megan Hassall
Location:  Sydney, Australia
Surgery Date:  23 January, 2014
Surgery Type:  Bilateral Subcutaneous Mastectomy with Nipple Grafts (right nipple, full graft; left nipple, pedicle preserved)

So I thought I'd do my 6-month update, although it's actually a bit past 6 months now. 

The skin puckering/wrinkling that I was so worried about initially (due to the dressings causing my skin to crinkle along the incision lines) seems to have mostly disappeared now (thank goodness for the wonders of skin elasticity).  Overall, I'm bloody pleased!  Sure, there are a few imperfections, but that's pretty standard, I think.

The nipple that was free-grafted, and which I feared would reject, is doing great.  The scarring is more noticeable inside and around that nipple and it's become slightly elongated and is a tad bit larger and higher than the left - but meh.  It looks like a nipple, so I don't really care too much.  It survived.

Sensation-wise, there's more feeling around my nipple area now - and by that I mean about a 4 inch radius from the nipples which was initially numb.  The feelings are a bit like when your foot has gone to sleep and is waking up.  The nipples themselves still have zero sensation, but I'm not bothered by it as nipple sensation was not something I cared about in the first place.

At this point, I'm not thinking about a revision even though there are places where I think that more tissue could be excised.  I'm pretty happy with the result, and working out has helped build up the look of the area, too.  The scars are super-fine and fading nicely. 

Close-up of the scars:


The overall result:




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Bimmer Guy

Ayden!  Congrats, clone brother!  So, glad you are doing well.  Thanks for being long winded.  I loved reading every detail!

I concur with you about Garramone's personality.  I have never understood those who experienced him in a different way.  However, we are all human, so I am sure he has off days.

1) Scar guard sucks.  Ditto what Jay said.  Why do you guys keep falling into the trap of buying Scar Guard at Garramone's (no offense :)) ?  I think the supplements he sells are of use, but I bought them prior to going.  Cheaper and one of them you are supposed to start taking 3 days prior to surgery. 
2)I didn't wear the ace bandage.  As Jay said, the only purpose of it is to remind you to not lift your arms or do something stupid.  The purpose is not compression.
3)I used a medium amount of neosporine.  Garramone pointed out the importance of not putting on a big blob.  In terms of the xerofoam lasting, I was a freak about it, worrying about not having enough.  Then I see a couple months later you can buy some yourself online, so don't drive yourself bonkers, just buy more.
4) I would suggest that you follow the instructions and bandage the areolas for 21 days, period.  If at day 22 you are uncomfortable stopping bandaging, call the office.

I am glad that you are happy with your choice of lodging.  If you look at Garramone's site, you will see that he no longer recommends a specific hotel.  In conversation with Garramone's office recently I learned that things have settled back down between Garramone and NBR.  This is the second falling out they have had over the past 4 years.  They have such an odd relationship.  I think the owner's personality and how he relates to others can really rub people the wrong way.  He also has no filter and doesn't think about how he says things or even what he says, half the time.  This is what gets him into trouble, imho.  Garramone's FB posts certainly made it seem like something horrible happened.  Now you ask the office about NBR and they just give you a shrug and say some like staying there, some don't, they don't have an opinion.  Like I said, weird those two.

Please post pics when you are ready.  I am really very happy for you.  Are you glad that you gave yourself that one extra night before going home?  Also, glad to hear you got through the drain issue.  Glad you got into him quickly and got it taken care of.

You didn't post your surgery date at the beginning of your post.  What was the date again?
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Bimmer Guy

Kreuzfidel,

You look freaking AMAZING my friend!  Wow, the incision lines, the nipples, etc.  She did a good job, but what you have done with your workouts is what makes your chest look so kick ass!  Love the avatar!

Really glad you posted! 
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Ayden

Brett: thanks for info. I think I'm over complicating everything in my head a little. I bought some scar away strips so now I just have to wait for them to get here.

You know, I think you probably summed up things between the two quite well. S said that it was just odd but not threatening. I'm glad to hear that they worked things out. The hotel was very comfortable so as far as recommendations it was a good one, but I'm sure everyone makes the right choice for them.

Yes, I am very happy that I stayed the extra night. I think with domestic flights leaving later the same day would be okay. With long international flights I think one extra night is enough time. A few extra hours to make sure nothing goes amiss and rest can't hurt. I doubt anyone would need more than an one night though. Mostly though, it was that I had a day to move comfortably and stretch and such before I hopped on a 22 hour trip and a 15 hour flight.

I will add my dates to the beginning of my post here in a sec, thanks for the reminder.

Kreuzfidel: Damn man! You look great! Your incision lines are super thin and really neat. Have you started a regular workout routine yet?
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Bimmer Guy

I'm sorry Ayden, you did say the date in your post, 7/24!  I actually read half before work and half after (I was running late), and forgot!

Don't worry about being paranoid.  I was ultra, crazy, crazy paranoid.  I accounted for everything to ensure the best result.  And guess what?  I got hypertrophic scars.  Thick, hard, vessel induced scars (sounds scary...but true!).  This is something I couldn't account for.

Point is, try not to stress too much, as you only have so much control over the situation.   ;D

How many weeks will you be out of work?  Don't you work with preschoolers?  How are you going to get around the whole not picking them up thing?  I remember you brought this up a long time ago.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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