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THC & HRT ?

Started by Madeline182, July 27, 2014, 02:41:10 PM

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Madeline182

Is any one aware off any impact the first has on the latter?  In this scenario, let's assume the THC has been extracted and combined with a butter, and then consumed on a breakfast bagel daily.. Hypothetically of course. 
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LordKAT

http://www.healthcaremagic.com/premiumquestions/Does-THC-from-the-use-of-Cannabis-have-any-effect-on-HRT-for-pre-op-trans-male-to-female/50747

Apparently not. This is the internet and not a doctor office so take what you read with a grain of salt and ask your doctor.
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Brooke777

My gf, also trans, smokes medicinal several times a day (note: weed is legal here). Anyway, she asked her doctor who said that there are no adverse side effects that he is aware of. She seems to be experiencing average results from the hrt as well.
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Brooke777 on July 27, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
My gf, also trans, smokes medicinal several times a day (note: weed is legal here). Anyway, she asked her doctor who said that there are no adverse side effects that he is aware of. She seems to be experiencing average results from the hrt as well.

Well, I don't know about THC if it is consumed any way other than smoking it. But I've always heard that smoking, in general, is what is bad when taking HRT. I used to smoke back in the day and had no problems. But I kicked the sticky icky to the curb a long time ago. I never bothered with cigs.
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Ltl89

I know they say smoking is usually bad for those of us on hrt, but I'm assuming that is because of the tobacco.  Never heard anything explicitly about pot being bad specifically for those on hrt. 
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: learningtolive on July 27, 2014, 06:44:58 PM
I know they say smoking is usually bad for those of us on hrt, but I'm assuming that is because of the tobacco.  Never heard anything explicitly about pot being bad specifically for those on hrt.

Well, it would seem to me that smoking any plant wouldn't be a good idea if they tell not to smoke while on HRT. Sure, they put all kinds of additives in the tobacco to make it more addictive, but still...smoking anything wouldn't seem like a good idea. Yeah, I did it for a long time, but I only started because the GID totally sucked. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have smoked or drank.
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Jessica Merriman

I would be much more concerned about a random drug test at work.  :-\
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 27, 2014, 06:53:40 PM
I would be much more concerned about a random drug test at work.  :-\

Well, I think those things are another thing altogether. I think as long as you don't come to work under the influence and don't hurt yourself on the job. I don't think it's the employer's business what you do off the clock.
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on July 27, 2014, 07:03:00 PM
Well, I think those things are another thing altogether. I think as long as you don't come to work under the influence and don't hurt yourself on the job. I don't think it's the employer's business what you do off the clock.
If you operate equipment of any kind on your job, have an accident and test positive for THC it is.  :)
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on July 27, 2014, 07:08:03 PM
If you operate equipment of any kind on your job, have an accident and test positive for THC it is.  :)

Yeah, but it's not that simple. Unless someone comes in to work and they are totally baked, chances are nothing is going to happen. Plus, THC stays in your system for a long enough time, the boss wouldn't know if the person smoked that morning before work or if they did on a day off the week before. That's why I think the idea of testing someone no matter what is messed up.
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Jessica Merriman

It is usually the companies insurance carrier that determines drug testing in work place accidents. It doesn't matter how much is present, any detectable amount could cost your job and maybe even a judgment against you for damaging company equipment also possibly leading to legal charges of operating while intoxicated. I am not saying people can't do what they want to. I am just saying there could be consequences, nothing more.  :)
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Miss_Bungle1991

I didn't know that. I assumed that was up to the boss.
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Jessica Merriman

Some companies have an option, but most do not. They have to meet the carriers policy and procedures. I remember one time the age for operating ambulances here was raised from 18 to 21. It was not the service that did it, but the insurance carrier would not write a policy if the did not increase it. It is really hard to find ambulance insurers so they raised the age.

Sorry for the thread hijack! You think I would know better!  ::)
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Jera

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on July 27, 2014, 07:15:31 PM
Yeah, but it's not that simple. Unless someone comes in to work and they are totally baked, chances are nothing is going to happen.

This isn't quite true.

http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/bandopubs/cannfly/cannfly.html

If you don't want to read it, this study shows that there were detrimental effects measured in pilots well more than a day after consuming cannibis, even when they reported being unaware of any impairment, themselves.

There's really not a whole lot of studies published on the effects of THC, since serious research on the subject is a relatively recent trend. So, just because your doctor isn't aware of what the negative effects might be, that doesn't necessarily mean there are no ill effects. I get the appeal of the stuff, since I did a lot of it when I was younger. But why even risk it, when you're going through something as important to you as HRT?
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Miss_Bungle1991

Quote from: Jera on July 27, 2014, 07:53:57 PM
But why even risk it, when you're going through something as important to you as HRT?

Well, in my case, it was something that had become a habit. But I dropped it a few years ago.
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Madeline182

Quote from: Brooke777 on July 27, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
My gf, also trans, smokes medicinal several times a day (note: weed is legal here). Anyway, she asked her doctor who said that there are no adverse side effects that he is aware of. She seems to be experiencing average results from the hrt as well.

This is the type answer I was looking for d:

Lol and just because you're paranoid, doesn't meant that "they" aren't watching d:
Discretion is key  :angel:
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[Chorus]
"Isn't it a pity that I'm not the prettiest girl in the world, sometimes I feel when I kick up my heels in the sun,
I'm the loveliest one."



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Tori

I have a prescription for the plant, but I rarely use it since HRT, because the symptoms I was treating have greatly reduced, and my budgetary needs have shifted towards makeup and wardrobe.

Still, I notice no adverse effects. In fact, I often have felt a bit more feminine while buzzed. The introspection it can induce has seemed quite helpful at times. Nothing worth risking a job over though.


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ErinWDK

Quote from: Tori on July 28, 2014, 10:48:58 AM
Nothing worth risking a job over though.

This!!!  Some places have a zero tolerance policy so that if you are randomly tested and there is ANY trace of THC in your system you are out the door.  Some even take the same stance on nicotine - so one cannot smoke even on their own time.  That is for health insurance.

As another poster said - why risk it if you are on HRT and the outcome of the HRT is something you REALLY want?


Erin
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Jayne

I've been using weed for over 20yrs, I wouldn't normaly comment on people using weed whilst transitioning as I don't want to encourage anyone to take this up but as the OP has already admitted using it i'll add my comment.
Several years ago I gave up smoking, during this time I still used weed but through a vapouriser. There is no smoke generated & when I attended my last quit smoking clinic I had half a dozen vapes first, my breath test gave the same reading as if i'd walked along a busy main road (which I just had).
A vapouriser is much healthier than smoking BUT i've seen no conclusive proof of how THC effects HRT (I would assume that eating it would have much the same effect)
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Madeline182

Quote from: ErinWDK on July 28, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
This!!!  Some places have a zero tolerance policy so that if you are randomly tested and there is ANY trace of THC in your system you are out the door.  Some even take the same stance on nicotine - so one cannot smoke even on their own time.  That is for health insurance.

As another poster said - why risk it if you are on HRT and the outcome of the HRT is something you REALLY want?


Erin

Why risk it, how does one have control of the other?  Please note this was a hypothetical question.  I have been diagnosed with young onset of Parkinson's disease and the medicine I currently take for it has very unpleasant side effects.  THC helps the brain with dopamine receptors that control movement/coordination w/ zero negative side effects, and 70% cheaper.  That's why I would risk it.  Your situation may vary. ^_^

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[Chorus]
"Isn't it a pity that I'm not the prettiest girl in the world, sometimes I feel when I kick up my heels in the sun,
I'm the loveliest one."



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