Heh, this is just sort of a silly thread, I don't place too much stock in these things, but has anyone else gotten a different Myer's Briggs test result pre- and post- transition?
For example, every single time pre-transition I always tested INTP, but now that I'm living full-time as male, I've discovered that without fail now I always get ENTJ. Is this a thing that's happened to anyone else? Just thought it was kinda funny.
the test is here: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

Quote from: solexander on July 26, 2014, 02:59:18 PM
Heh, this is just sort of a silly thread, I don't place too much stock in these things, but has anyone else gotten a different Myer's Briggs test result pre- and post- transition?
For example, every single time pre-transition I always tested INTP, but now that I'm living full-time as male, I've discovered that without fail now I always get ENTJ. Is this a thing that's happened to anyone else? Just thought it was kinda funny.
the test is here: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

I used to be a solid Introvert. Now it shows me a slight extrovert. That's something I've noticed too.

HRT for 2 and a half years.  Still the same.

Mine often changes if I go more than a few years between checking it, and I didn't think to ever write my results down or watch how transition affected it.

I just did one on human metrics and got INFJ -

Introvert(44%)  iNtuitive(6%)  Feeling(12%)  Judging(89%)

    * You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (44%)
    * You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (6%)
    * You have slight preference of Feeling over Thinking (12%)
    * You have strong preference of Judging over Perceiving (89%)

I'm afraid I've never taken one of these so I have nothing to compare. If it's anything like the political ideology tests I've taken in the past then the results would have probably varied quite considerably over protracted periods of time. Just for the sake of checking how transition impacts even small things in the future I took the test:

ENFP

Extravert(1%)  iNtuitive(75%)  Feeling(25%)  Perceiving(11%)

You have marginal or no preference of Extraversion over Introversion (1%)
You have distinct preference of Intuition over Sensing (75%)
You have moderate preference of Feeling over Thinking (25%)
You have slight preference of Perceiving over Judging (11%)

I've always been strongly INFP. I wonder if it's been swayed a bit towards INTJ after a few months in my programming job, though... o_O

Probably not.

Not transitioning, but I seem to always get INTP or INFP or ENTP depending on what mood I'm in. I have wondered if J is really what I, (and society) consider masculinity.

According to actual theory type doesn't change as the only thing that changes when you take these tests is your self-perception. Depression can for example make someone test as an introvert and later extrovert when they stop being depressed. That's unrelated to whether you truly are a cognitive extrovert or introvert as the tests tend to be very poor at measuring these things in any accurate way.

I'm an INTJ and that won't change.

Quote from: Ephemeral on August 01, 2014, 01:12:43 PM
According to actual theory type doesn't change as the only thing that changes when you take these tests is your self-perception. Depression can for example make someone test as an introvert and later extrovert when they stop being depressed. That's unrelated to whether you truly are a cognitive extrovert or introvert as the tests tend to be very poor at measuring these things in any accurate way.

I'm an INTJ and that won't change.

My responses often seem to vary because of the (probably necessary) rigidity in the questions. Like, my daily life creates certain necessities that shape my behavior and preferences far beyond however I might live if I could somehow exist in a vacuum away from responsibilities and circumstance, but the questions don't allow for hypothetical preferences.

Quote from: Felix on August 02, 2014, 01:16:23 AM
My responses often seem to vary because of the (probably necessary) rigidity in the questions. Like, my daily life creates certain necessities that shape my behavior and preferences far beyond however I might live if I could somehow exist in a vacuum away from responsibilities and circumstance, but the questions don't allow for hypothetical preferences.

Yes, the test is known to have little reliability. It doesn't really test the Jungian dimensions it tries to test. You need to study the theory if you want a proper assessment.

I get INTJ. However, if the test included ambiverts, I'd be ANTJ every time because I'm only slightly more introverted than extroverted.

Quote from: Ephemeral on August 02, 2014, 07:18:47 AM
Yes, the test is known to have little reliability. It doesn't really test the Jungian dimensions it tries to test. You need to study the theory if you want a proper assessment.

I've studied Jungian psychology, but it's still fun to take and track even unreliable assessments. Everybody likes seeing quiz results about themselves.

Quote from: Felix on August 02, 2014, 06:51:33 PM
I've studied Jungian psychology, but it's still fun to take and track even unreliable assessments. Everybody likes seeing quiz results about themselves.

Oh, so what's your actual Jungian type? And when I wrote "you" in the previous post, for clarification, I wasn't specifically referring to you but it was just a generic "you". And color me unsurprised that you did.

Yeah Ephemeral is right. Your MBTI type doesn't change but it would be interesting if it actually did change through HRT as the hormones would affect the brain in some way.

I haven't started the HRT part of my transition yet. But through the transition I have done I've stayed an ISTP. I doubt it'll change, but there is a chance I'll become extroverted as I was an extrovert before puberty. I think the wrong hormones coursing through my brain has affected it quite negatively and made it malfunction in a way. Of course that's just theory, there's no way to actually prove that.

Oh and I'm not saying that introverts are malfunctioning, just that I think I might be. O course if I stay an introvert that's fine too. I'll be very interested in seeing what happens.

Quote from: Evan of Spades on August 03, 2014, 05:04:40 PM
Yeah Ephemeral is right. Your MBTI type doesn't change but it would be interesting if it actually did change through HRT as the hormones would affect the brain in some way.

I haven't started the HRT part of my transition yet. But through the transition I have done I've stayed an ISTP. I doubt it'll change, but there is a chance I'll become extroverted as I was an extrovert before puberty. I think the wrong hormones coursing through my brain has affected it quite negatively and made it malfunction in a way. Of course that's just theory, there's no way to actually prove that.

Oh and I'm not saying that introverts are malfunctioning, just that I think I might be. O course if I stay an introvert that's fine too. I'll be very interested in seeing what happens.

If you are an ISTP there are several ways to explain this:

1. You are beginning to access the world through you auxiliary function that is extroverted;
2. You are beginning to develop and gain access to your inferior function that is extroverted;
3. Social introversion/extroversion is unrelated to cognitive extroversion/introversion that the type should denote but does so poorly.

it's interesting that you mention that, because i've heard people talk about their mbti types changing through the process of transitioning.

before i realized i was trans i always got infj
while i was coming to terms with it, i got either infj or infp
now i always get infp

not a huge change, but it's something. i don't know how much my transitioning is related to that, though.

I used to be way more introverted. I used to have a strong preference for introversion, now I only have a moderate preference. Also, for some reason, the first time I took the test I got INFP, this time I got INFJ. Not sure what that means, but whatever.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on August 04, 2014, 09:10:38 PM
I used to be way more introverted. I used to have a strong preference for introversion, now I only have a moderate preference. Also, for some reason, the first time I took the test I got INFP, this time I got INFJ. Not sure what that means, but whatever.

It doesn't actually mean much.

Quote from: Ephemeral on August 03, 2014, 06:13:36 AM
Oh, so what's your actual Jungian type? And when I wrote "you" in the previous post, for clarification, I wasn't specifically referring to you but it was just a generic "you". And color me unsurprised that you did.

Whoa, I answered because I didn't think most people had studied him, and because you were posting and so was I. Your context was fine and understood to be generic. The "unsurprised" thing seems weirdly targeted. I don't know what my actual type is. I studied Jung, and I also studied Freud, and I underwent analytical talk therapy for a few years. Taking online tests is a separate and much more lighthearted thing and all I was saying is that you can understand deeper concepts and still enjoy fluff. I dig the Myers Briggs tests the same way I like doing OkCupid questionnaires and quizzes.

the me of today

INTJ
Introvert(56%)  iNtuitive(62%)  Thinking(25%)  Judging(11%)
You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (56%)
You have distinct preference of Intuition over Sensing (62%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (11%)

i still think the book question is unfair to people who'd rather watch anime.
most questions are too absolute in their yes/no options. there's a scale for most things, but that's not reflected at all.
and other things that make this mostly a test to do for fun rather than actually learn all that much about oneself.

one positive thing i found though, is that i'm getting more honest about myself. where i'd answer what i thought was ideal, and what i thought i did before, i'll now answer what i know is the reason for bad decisions in the past. at least the awareness i have now could make it easier to avoid those same mistakes in the future.