Massage...as long as you do it properly (and don't overdo it) I can't imagine it would do any harm and therefore you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. It's a regular daily routine that may take a month or two for results. Try googling "breast growth massage" and investigate the pros and cons. I keep wondering if I shouldn't start again myself, except my girls are generally too tender.

There are probably a lot of kooky "solutions" out there. Don't spend a cent on them. That's what I like about the massage option.

I think i would waste my time only.
Breast growth is controlled by hormones and receptors.

Maybe you'll be wasting your time. Maybe not. You'll never know if you never try...

http://naturalremedysite.blogspot.com.au/2007/11/increase-cup-size-in-30-days-with.html

Thanks really much but i dont believe in such things.

Its really impossible that my breast doesnt grow with estrogen and should grow with a massage. That may help when you already have a C-cup and that will stimulate a further growth but ive no growth that could be stimulate. By massaging my breast a will massage my muscles only. Sorry, really ruled out 

Quote from: michelle666 on August 04, 2014, 05:08:05 PM
I've been on her for about a year and have a large b. I did play around with some natural stuff before hrt and got some growth. I recently started injections and the are really sore right now. I'm interested in seeing if it's going to make a difference in them.

E injections that is? <3 x

+1 on the randomness of breast growth.  I've been on the lowest dose of estrogen possible and in three weeks I've got swollen nipples, fat depositing in the boob areas, and I'm panicking - it wasn't supposed to happen this quickly (or at all!) on low dose hormones.

Quote from: galaxy on August 05, 2014, 06:34:32 AM
Thanks really much but i dont believe in such things.

Its really impossible that my breast doesnt grow with estrogen and should grow with a massage. That may help when you already have a C-cup and that will stimulate a further growth but ive no growth that could be stimulate. By massaging my breast a will massage my muscles only. Sorry, really ruled out 

Looking back at my journey, I wish I was under care of a good therapist. Don't diminish their power, they can do wonders. ask for help, please

Quote from: Brenda E on August 05, 2014, 08:22:28 AM
+1 on the randomness of breast growth.  I've been on the lowest dose of estrogen possible and in three weeks I've got swollen nipples, fat depositing in the boob areas, and I'm panicking - it wasn't supposed to happen this quickly (or at all!) on low dose hormones.

You would be considered lucky to have boobs so early, unless you need to be in male mode for a while and don't want them to show that early. It took me a few years to get up to a small C cup.

Quote from: crowcrow223 on August 05, 2014, 08:25:10 AM
Looking back at my journey, I wish I was under care of a good therapist. Don't diminish their power, they can do wonders. ask for help, please

What or who is "they"?

Quote from: galaxy on August 05, 2014, 09:45:57 AM
What or who is "they"?

therapists/counsellors

If you have very poor breast development, it might be worth changing your hormone regimen and ask your doctor if  this is possible at all, to make things happen. Perhaps increase dose of anti-androgen, add bio-identical progesterone, increase E or change routes. You need to discuss these with your doctor and perhaps get a second and even third opinion, to really optimize your changes. For instance, in my case, increasing E and adding some P did the trick. Had I remained at the low dose I was taking and accepted my fate, I would have missed out...could also be that you are genetically unlucky but...I would really ask doctors and see if they can do anything for you.

Best of luck! Don't give up, just yet...

Quote from: galaxy on August 05, 2014, 06:18:15 AM
I think i would waste my time only.
Breast growth is controlled by hormones and receptors.

And genetics.. And environmental factors.. And diet..

Breast development takes "YEARS AND YEARS" just like any other natal woman. You don't take HRT then magically wake up with double Ds a few days later. Breast can take up to a decade to fully develop and even then in the vast majority of transsexual women its typically sub par development. You are no different. Furthermore, if you do not like your body there are plenty of cosmetic surgeries to help alleviate those insecurities. Liposuction does wonders for stomachs.

On the belly fat thing:

It takes TIME. Lots of time.

I've read studies that say that your body loses and replaces only about 10% of its fat cells in any given year. Hormones do not and can not influence how fat cells inflate and deflate as you gain/lose weight, because that always happens evenly across the whole body. Hormones can only influence where new fat cells are reborn after old ones die.

So basically, there's nothing you can do but wait in regards to getting fat on your boobs/hips. Right now, at 19 months, less than 20% of your body's fat cells have been redistributed to their permanent estrogen-influenced location, probably less because you're a bit older, so the body's cells aren't dividing as rapidly. (Which is why cis-women get curves a bit faster, because at puberty your body's cells are still in a constant state of division, where once you're older you're not growing anymore, so it's slower.)

And it it's any consolation, I too tried to gain a bit of weight because I thought it would go to my hips and boobs. It didn't. It went to my stomach. So, again, at these earlier stages of transition, that's just the way it is. Most of my trans friends have told me that they're still seeing changes even 4-5 years into hormones.

And, well, some of us just don't get boobs at all. I have a friend Arianna who didn't. She still only has a AA cup despite being 7 years into transition, 4 years post-SRS, and having gained 50+ lbs since starting hormones. Some girls just aren't genetically predisposed to grow breasts. And some cis-girls don't either. So it's not necessarily the fault of being trans. There's a reason why breast augmentation is the most common cosmetic procedure in this country, with 290,000 of them performed every year.

Most everyone here seems to be trying to talk you out of BAS.  In your case, I don't agree.  The girls who start HRT and then have BAS two months later...that's too soon.  But if your doctor says you're done developing after two years, then you do what you gotta do.

My sister in law had almost no development when she was about 20, so she bought some boobs.  And it suits her.  I see no difference here.

Quote from: Natalie on August 05, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
Breast development takes "YEARS AND YEARS" just like any other natal woman. You don't take HRT then magically wake up with double Ds a few days later. Breast can take up to a decade to fully develop and even then in the vast majority of transsexual women its typically sub par development. You are no different. Furthermore, if you do not like your body there are plenty of cosmetic surgeries to help alleviate those insecurities. Liposuction does wonders for stomachs.

I know all these facts (maybe better than many others) and i also know all the solutions. For my fat is there a liposucion, for my breast a augmentation. For my face a FFS and for hips implants. But i dont want to be complete female product of surgery and i dont have thousands of euro to solve every HRT-failed problem with a surgery. That cant be the goal of a HRT. I cant wait until the age of 50 to have any boobs in my life as a woman. I need my boobs now, im not a 11year old teenager girl - am 37 and 37 year old women have boobs since 20 years. I think its a very important passing fact!!

With all due respect galaxy, I think you're being slightly harsh on both yourself and us.

We understand your frustration, I especially understand your frustration, I'm on the same boat, zero boobs at all, and I sympathise with you. However, if you're expecting and demanding of us to give you a magical solution, the magical pill, the magical technique to make your breasts grow, then I'm sorry, but we can't do that. Natural methods of breast enhancement are probably one of the most coveted things amongst women these days, and there's zero facts.

Please, ask counsellor for help in order to help you accept and embrace your body and your sexuality, there are certain things which you won't be able to change, ever... It's what everyone's life is about.

I wish you good luck and everything good on your journey, take care

No, no - it never was my intention to ask for a solution or something else. The thread goes without my control in that direction. I never asked for solutions in a medical way or for surgery. I dont know who began it ...

My question was:
Who has similar problems with zero breast growth and how you handle that in your mind? I wanted to know how you learned to accept it for yourself.

Me as well as others mentioned following options:

therapy,
not obsessing over it by a very close 5-hour mirror examination, try and not focus your attention on it
wear clothes that accentuate parts of your body that you like
wear pushup padded bra, you can use sth to fill them out a little
pamper yourself once in a while, have a girl's night in, paint your nails, watch sth nice, cook sth you like
go out, have fun, talk with others, distract yourself, focus on other parts of your life

good luck!

Quote from: galaxy on August 06, 2014, 06:56:30 AM
My question was:
Who has similar problems with zero breast growth and how you handle that in your mind? I wanted to know how you learned to accept it for yourself.

As I said back on the first page..

Quote from: kelly_aus on August 04, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
A bit over 3 years on hormones here and you've had more development than I've had..

How do I cope? Kinda simple really. They may not be much, but they are mine. I've waited a long time for them. Sure, I'm not overjoyed at their size, but I could still be completely flat.

I'm going to reiterate my comment about you having had more growth than I've had. Why? Because you seem fixated. There are many cis women who have little breast growth, they seem to do just fine - or they get a BA. A BA is not an option for me, so I just enjoy what I've got. They might be tiny, but they are mine..