well after reading few posts about Christianity here i feel like i am walking on egg shells cuse it seems that most here dislike Christianity and the Chruch as a whole. well one of thei things i am trying to get a grasp on is my Christianity with my Gender Iusses, i have gottne mixed things about it. anywho Persoanly i think God Loves you no matter what or who you are Come as YOU and he will love you and he sent his son to die on teh cross for YOU and EVERYONE.

So, even if your TG or not Come as you are.

on a side note i started to write in a notebook about my Gender IUsses and comeing to trems with as well as mysexualy iusses and comeign to trems with it as bing an Christian. anywho if anyhting its going to help me knwo how i feel.

Quote from: ducky ~ day on September 12, 2007, 02:27:05 AM
anywho Persoanly i think God Loves you no matter what or who you are Come as YOU and he will love you

I quite agree. Although, I believe it is does love, not will; Not conditional, DOES LOVE, right now, right here, already.

Quote from: ducky ~ day on September 12, 2007, 02:27:05 AM
and he sent his son to die on teh cross for YOU and EVERYONE.

>.> That is the part I do not like about Christianity.

There are a number of things I am not keen on that is the Church but I respect the basic intent, albeit that is simplified and said with conditions.


Now, for whatever my thoughts are worth I am quite certain gender and sexuality is.. well not that big of a deal really. I believe it is the human element which makes a mountain out of... well, nothing. Or rather, the unfamiliar and self-righteousness.

But that is just my thoughts, sand in the wind...

It is a shame you feel you have to walk on egg shells, you don't have to.

This is the Spirituality and Christian area, feel free to ask questions and state your position, but I personally don't think this is a place to try to convert others.

I am a Christian and have faced many problems with certain demoninations.

Sarah L.

Hi,

I am a Christian and as Christian, I am accepted by my minister and more importantly by God. There are verses that speak of that blessing in the bible (See other posts). The way I see it is if God loves me then I should love myself. Sometimes that is the hardest thing to do, "love yourself" for who you are. I am only just learning this myself after many years of living a lie. I believe God wants us to be honest and genuine with our selves and that opens up a door of blessing. Yes sometimes I feel sad, depressed, frustrated and all that goes with GID but hay, I know that one thing that will not change is God's love of me.

hugs


Nigella 

Hi Ducky, it's so great to hear from you.

Yes, a lot of people have been skeptical, even hostile toward Christianity, and that's really not all that unexpected, is it? After all, who's most likely to start waving a finger in our faces?

This is why this forum exists... specifically as a safe haven for all of us to minister to each other. I'm so glad that some of us have found church homes. I pray that everyone else who seeks will find one. It really makes a big difference.

Great topic. Keep it up!

Ducky, 

As a Christian I know what you are saying.  It is sad but true that there are a lot of things which are nothing more than cultural norms and taboos that some have ingrafted into the church,  proof texted, and declared them to be spiritual.  But Christianity is not about a set of outward rules.  It is all about accepting the love that has already been given to you, as exemplified by the life and work of Jesus.  I would also add that until you accept yourself fully, as God has, you cannot hope for others to begin to accept you even partially.

I wish you the very best.  Please let us know if we can help in any way.

Grace and Peace,
Kristi

I think most when they say they dislike Christianity are largely referring to a very fundamentalist interpretation. If your Christianity is a source of strength for YOU then that is all that matters. I have to admit that fundamentalism has soured me on religion personally.

Quote from: ducky ~ day on September 12, 2007, 02:27:05 AM
well after reading few posts about Christianity here i feel like i am walking on egg shells cuse it seems that most here dislike Christianity and the Chruch as a whole.

Quote from: Jaynatopia on September 18, 2007, 05:56:59 PM
I think most when they say they dislike Christianity are largely referring to a very fundamentalist interpretation. If your Christianity is a source of strength for YOU then that is all that matters. I have to admit that fundamentalism has soured me on religion personally.

I fully understand. *hug*

Maybe it's time for all of us to realize that fundamentalism is only a very noisy minority of a faith that is all about love and grace? Interesting concept.

Quote from: David W. Shelton on September 19, 2007, 08:40:31 AM
Maybe it's time for all of us to realize that fundamentalism is only a very noisy minority of a faith that is all about love and grace? Interesting concept.

Why David, how positively biblical of you!  Interesting concept indeed.  I don't think the world has ever been able to handle the idea of grace.

Peace!

Kristi

Quote from: David W. Shelton on September 19, 2007, 08:40:31 AM
Maybe it's time for all of us to realize that fundamentalism is only a very noisy minority of a faith that is all about love and grace? Interesting concept.

Fundamentalists do not like to hear that Jesus was talking about them when he said, "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.  Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?  You experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.  Woe to you, because you have taken away the key to the kingdom of heaven. You yourselves have not entered, and you have stopped those who were entering."  (Luke 6:37,46; 11:46,52)

Spoken like a gentleman! thanks for the hug! :-D
*hug returned*

Quote from: David W. Shelton on September 19, 2007, 08:40:31 AM
I fully understand. *hug*
Maybe it's time for all of us to realize that fundamentalism is only a very noisy minority of a faith that is all about love and grace? Interesting concept.

It seems largely much as fundamentalism was said to have "hijacked Islam" it has also done the same with Christianity. More and more I am sure see it as anti-gay and anti-abortion, the ENTIRE religion that is, despite it probably being a minority; my partner's own brother is a fundamentalist Christian who, when she told him she was only asking for his tolerance, retorted, "Tolerance is destroying America!" It is hard to argue against mentality that claims it cannot do wrong because of their exclusive claim to the divine truth.

Quote from: Jaynatopia on September 19, 2007, 01:55:07 PM
It is hard to argue against mentality that claims it cannot do wrong because of their exclusive claim to the divine truth.

Islamic fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists, and Jewish fundamentalists all claim they have the devine truth exclusively.

I agree completely, I am not excluding non-Christian religions. Here in the U.S. though where Christianity is the pre-dominant religion that is the voice most often heard. It is lamentable that they in the end drive people from religion that cannot stomach their limited view.

Quote from: Lisbeth on September 19, 2007, 02:28:33 PM
Islamic fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists, and Jewish fundamentalists all claim they have the devine truth exclusively.

Quote from: Jaynatopia on September 19, 2007, 04:07:47 PM
I agree completely, I am not excluding non-Christian religions. Here in the U.S. though where Christianity is the pre-dominant religion that is the voice most often heard. It is lamentable that they in the end drive people from religion that cannot stomach their limited view.

Quote from: Lisbeth on September 19, 2007, 02:28:33 PM
Islamic fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists, and Jewish fundamentalists all claim they have the devine truth exclusively.

I pointed it out because who is doing all the fighting?  Islamic and Jewis fundamentalists are killing each other in the middle-east.  And after we invaded Iraq we added Christian fundamentalists to the battle, too.  If we could just put all three groups in a room and lock the door, maybe they'd just kill each other off.

Everyone, this has been a very good thread. It has gotten me thinking a lot about spirituality in general and given me some things to reflect upon. Thanks!