I am going to start hrt soon, however I'm not going to present female in public until I absouluyely have to
. I know hrt won't change my voice but I've had several tell me that it helps or makes it a little easier to find your female voice. But I'm currently 239 and I lose about 10pounds a month or maybe a little more like I started my diet 6 weeks ago and I was 260. I want to get skinny as possible before I start hrt, I am tall and muscular, I wear size 14 pants and large in women's shirts along with size 10 women's shoes, (I have a bad just fab addiction) lol, my wife is like 5'5 160 and I can wear most of her clothes. She isn't far but curvy. I have an ass and a little hip action going on, when I have been out dressed back when I weighed 180 I had a lot of guys hitting on me. I went out on Halloween about 6 years ago dressed pretty slutty, lol
But I know I am sensitive to estrogen, I have had sympathetic pregnancy the whole time my wife has been pregnant. From morning sickness to sensitive nipples, and mood swings. Any way I have bulky upper body muscles, I know hrt they will feminize, (there is a body builder who transitioned mtf on you tube who I have actually talked to who was a lot bigger than me ) she could
TOtally be a model now. And I am serious she took to hormones like a cis girl in puberty. So knowing I'm sensitive to e, how long do I have on hrt before it becomes obvious? I plan on presenting male until I start getting mammed or when I know I can pass atleast 60% or more.and yes that is important to me .
Especially since I am a truck driver. Ill get killed out here if I don't pass... So what do yaw think?? I'm sorry if this is rambled, I'm pretty tired been up all night lol. Thanks for your help!

Cristy

As we say ymmv.  Every person reacts differently to HRT.  It depends upon dosage, number of E receptors etc.   Depending upon how you dress (think large, loose check shirts and possibly a tight under armor vest, and layers) then given that you are muscular, then you may not be clocked and succeed in stealth mode for quite a while (12 months or more).  ...  But if you identify as F and are set on a binary transition, you may become emotionally uncomfortable continuing to present M as your body, emotions etc transform to F.

Safe travels

Aisla

You'll know when you're ready - and that's only once you feel that you are. Some feel ready sooner than they expected, others put it off for ages. It's not just about HRT, hormones alone won't do the trick - much of it is about how you present yourself and confidence.

I'd definitely have a backup plan... I was apparently also very sensitive to E, and I ended up having to come out at work earlier than I'd planned when I hit 42C and significant facial changes at only 4 months on HRT. (I had visible breast development at 5 days.) This is uncommon, but since you're also very responsive to E, well, I wouldn't assume you have much time at all. You *might,* but be smarter than I was and prepare for the fallback plan.

Quote from: Ms Grace on August 14, 2014, 08:45:32 AM
You'll know when you're ready - and that's only once you feel that you are. Some feel ready sooner than they expected, others put it off for ages. It's not just about HRT, hormones alone won't do the trick - much of it is about how you present yourself and confidence.

I realize that hrt alone does not a woman make,lol but I was referring to the physical effects. I look pretty decent when dressed, except for my upper body like my upper arms and chest and shoulders, I wish I could pics on here, but I can't until I have 15 posts, I don't want to post needlessly, so I been trying to help others with my personal experience, I recently switched from hauling 53ft flatbed trailers to a 53ft van trailer, bc working hard physically keeps me bulky, so I switched where I don't have to work hard with my body, it's still a hard job, just mentally bc I have to run my business at the same time keep my truck running. But I haven't worked my body in 4 weeks and I can see some of my definition going away, I was blessed with a high metabolism so when I quit working my muscles they go down decently. But hopefully once on hrt they will shrink down a good bit more.  As soon as I get picure privileges I will post on this thread me in boy mode, and the pics of me dressed with makeup. Also I have a lot of tattoos but I was thinking I could pull off rocker chick, I'm in to metal anyway, but anyhow maybe I'll make the limit tonight and can post pics. Then it might give yaw a better idea of how long (guesstamit) it would be before people started looking at me like what the fudge..?lol thanks for your replies stay tuned lol!

(I'd definitely have a backup plan... I was apparently also very sensitive to E, and I ended up having to come out at work earlier than I'd planned when I hit 42C and significant facial changes at only 4 months on HRT. (I had visible breast development at 5 days.) This is uncommon, but since you're also very responsive to E, well, I wouldn't assume you have much time at all. You *might,* but be smarter than I was and prepare for the fallback plan. )

I do, it's a bald face lie but people know about it so it's pausable for an excuse, I have a tumor the size of a golfball on my brain, (really) it sits on my pituratary gland, and cause my natural hormones to fluctuate anyway a little, it had the possibility of causing similar hrt effects anyway, although a small chance of doing that, so I think that's what I'm going to try go float to my parents, that my tumor grew and is causing all of my changes, my wife also knows this to, but she know that if my tumor really did that I would be like really happy lol, I also i have several smaller ones in there to. While there not cancerous or life threatening, or only have a .0001 chance of being fatal, I could pass that off as the reason behind my body changing. And they know there inoperable, I'm stuck with them forever, so it would be transition and possibly have a chance at looking normal, or look like I'm both sexes. I'd tell my mom that sectretly i was trans anyway, but I wasn't going to do anything about it but I don't have a real choice now bc I'm gonna look like a chick anyway bc of the tumor. They won't know that I'm on hrt, and I could probably convince my wife the same, although it be harder to keep from her. As far as work, I own my own business and I drive my semi truck also, so I could put my hair up and hide it under my hat, and where an under armor shirt under a baggy tshirt with loose fitting pants, just to avoid looks at a truck stop. But I am scared of my face feminizing to quick to have a back up plan, like I think I'm going to have to move, and sell my house, or atleast have an apartment set aside so that I could have a place to live, other than in my sleeper of my truck, bc I am about 50% shure my wife is not going to stick around for me to look like a woman, or atleast not if she thinks I'm doing it on purpose, she would go to the doctor with me, so I'd need to see a teams friendly doc ahead of time and get him or her to fudge the truth a little bit to my wife, that it is my tumor causing the feminization. I know it's ->-bleeped-<-ty, but if my parents think it's my only choice to be normal(which it is) and I can convince my wife of that, I can keep from losing my family. We'll I'll try to get enough post to post pics tonight. I'm not going to post pad but I'll try and find a meaningful way to contribute. Thanks sweetheart!

Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 14, 2014, 05:42:00 PM
she would go to the doctor with me, so I'd need to see a teams friendly doc ahead of time and get him or her to fudge the truth a little bit to my wife, that it is my tumor causing the feminization. I know it's ->-bleeped-<-ty, but if my parents think it's my only choice to be normal(which it is) and I can convince my wife of that, I can keep from losing my family. We'll I'll try to get enough post to post pics tonight. I'm not going to post pad but I'll try and find a meaningful way to contribute. Thanks sweetheart!

An ethical and professional doctor will not lie for you..

Yikes! What a scary medical issue, but it does provide you with a believable short-term excuse, I guess.

I do NOT recommend lying to your wife; if she ever finds out she's going to be so furious you might have destroyed the marriage right there, and even if she doesn't you'll know you're betraying her and that could be damaging too. It's one thing to use this as a temporary pass, but in the long run you'll be better off being honest with everyone, including yourself. If you think she could stay with you when you transitioned to a woman "involuntarily"... then there's a good chance she could come to terms with you needing to do this for yourself. And it's going to be hard to hide that you're taking medication for the rest of your life, anyway.

Good luck.

Yeah I probably wouldn't with my wife bc she knows I want to transition,.... But as far as my parents go I hate it but it's none of there business, I'm 30 and I don't want to put them threw the ringer either. But if I give them an excuse that can live with, even if they knew somewhere inside that it was an excuse, anything to keep them from suffering. That's all im really worried about. My wife I probably could get away with the tumor thing for a few months, and the I would tell her I'm taking hormones, bc truthfully the tumor is slowwwwwwly doing things, it always has. I think that's why my face was never all the way male? Like I get comments that I look young all the time. I have halfway decent hips and ass lol, but I still bulked up I places bc of being a trigger puller in the army for years, then a fighter, boxing mainly but I did do mma, but I liked boxing a little more. But yeah when I found out about my tumors about 7 years ago, I was really scared. But they don't know where I got them??? Possibly from being exposed to burning feces in Iraq(seriously) most likely born with them, and they grow and shrink all the time, there fatty tumors so they gain or lose weight based on a number of things, but any how my biological mother smokes and injected all kinds of stuff while she was pregnant with me, also drank all the time. Si that's more than likely the reason I'm stuck with these Littie bastards. They cause me all kinda of trouble to, sleep problems, temper, depression, stuff i dealt with before combat in Iraq also, and then I got PTSD so that's fun. But I learned how to deal with it, I was adopted, and I got
picked on and bullied until I was 16, I eventually snapped and kicked some ass lol, but I could tell you other stuff that happened to me that's real ->-bleeped-<-ty but most don't believe it until I show the actual documents to prove it. The reason I was adopted was bc I was molested, and I had my skull fractured and legs broken.... I am telling the truth,so I've been threw so much I don't want to suffer anymore, so I'm kinda screwed, if I transition, I'll suffer from losing the family, of I don't I'll suffer from not being myself... So yeah that's why I'd rather blame it on my tumor than just say I want to, or tell them I'm trans. I don't know I just hurt so bad inside, but I can't cry, or show
My emotions. It's like I can't get rid of the pain bc I have no outlet to fell better. But I'm okay, I guess, I just keep my head up and I kinda feel like I need to just start over, but again I would feel horrible for hurting my parents, leaving my wife, having to do the split custody thing. Agh it sucks. I'm sorry I just needed to vent. But I can't wait to start hrt, and I need atleast 6 month to have back ups in place. Bc if that cat gets out of the bag in the tiny little town I live in Alabama, I would have to move like right then.
So I'll post pics asap I hàvent reached the limit yet.

Quote from: Ms Grace on August 14, 2014, 08:45:32 AM
You'll know when you're ready - and that's only once you feel that you are. Some feel ready sooner than they expected, others put it off for ages. It's not just about HRT, hormones alone won't do the trick - much of it is about how you present yourself and confidence.

Yeah I hope I am real sensitive to e, I am real excited I know it won't happen over night, I am really scared at the same time though bc I know what's at stake. I just need to find friends in my area. People like me transgender people. I need friends like me. Anyone kmow groups in the Alabama area?