Quote from: Sydney_NYC on August 04, 2014, 11:51:14 PM
I've also heard many transwomen say that the only women that clock them are African-American woman. So far I haven't witnessed that with myself. However when I first went full-time and was getting clocked on occasion it seemed Eastern Indian women would clock me most often. Not anymore thankfully

Interesting, my friend was telling me that two African-American women clocked her recently, when generally she doesn't seem to have this issue.

If I get clocked it has historically been by gay men and lesbians, but that hasn't happened as far as I know lately.

I think children clock me pretty often.....which means adults do too

*sobs*

Great Topic.

I would say that most men are the ones who clock me first, or at least make a point of letting me know(BTW, that's a good sign that at least your being noticed... LOL). Women, who tend to be nicer to me, either don't clock me or just don't say anything.

Now, without going off-topic or sounding inflammatory, I think all trans men and women should just be prepared for being clocked or mis-gendered once in a while and not take it so personal; however, I am not saying we should eat people's verbal-excrement either, choose your battles.

In the long run we are not fooling anyone... in 500 years, if our bones were dug-up what gender would an anthropologist say we were?  Yes, at a minimum, our pelvis will give us away each time....

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Quote from: Bea on August 13, 2014, 03:25:46 PM
Great Topic.

I would say that most men are the ones who clock me first, or at least make a point of letting me know(BTW, that's a good sign that at least your being noticed... LOL). Women, who tend to be nicer to me, either don't clock me or just don't say anything.

Now, without going off-topic or sounding inflammatory, I think all trans men and women should just be prepared for being clocked or mis-gendered once in a while and not take it so personal; however, I am not saying we should eat people's verbal-excrement either, choose your battles.

In the long run we are not fooling anyone... in 500 years, if our bones were dug-up what gender would an anthropologist say we were?  Yes, at a minimum, our pelvis will give us away each time....

< Hugs >

No, I dont want to be buried...shoot my ash into space, because that's the place I belong 

Quote from: Ayden on August 11, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
I get clocked by women more but I don't think it's intelligence based. I think women just look more. It's more acceptable for women to observe people than it is for a man to do so. He's called a pervert if he looks too long.

I don't use the term "clocked". Not trying to be "word policing" about this, but I feel that I am *misgendered* as female. This puts the other person as "who is doing this" and not "finding me out". If you get my drift. I am misgendered more by women. i agree with Ayden. I think women are more observant. They are also used to looking at cues like this  as a self protective mechanism. So women are trying to protect themselves from harm and anything out of the ordinary.


---Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on August 19, 2014, 01:27:16 PM
I don't use the term "clocked". Not trying to be "word policing" about this, but I feel that I am *misgendered* as female. This puts the other person as "who is doing this" and not "finding me out". If you get my drift. I am misgendered more by women.

Could not figure out why this term bugged me so much, but you hit the nail on the head.

Also, as for the suggestion hardlife made, I honestly don't think that's the case at all. It could be observer bias, but I know far too many ladies who pass 100% to think that.