I only asked because thats what I consider mine. I was always built up alittle more than females. My shoulders are not very narrow at all, My arms have got even more veiny I mean I could have my arm in a certain position and there everywhere started to appear more like my dads. I lift alot of weights and I gain muscle really quickly my muscles are bigger than before and especially noticable in tighter shirts . I don't have have that hour glassy figure that some guys struggle with here, My adams apple is somewhat prominent. Also that horrible time that lot of us hate for me is only 3 days and it used to be 5 and I am hairy specially the legs. This topic occured to me when my cuz had mentioned that my body is more of ambiguous because of how I am built. And even said if she seen me on the street she wouldn't be able to know my curremt situation as a trans boy. I feel like I could have a hormonal imbalence though.

I wonder about this myself sometimes. I pass 100%, even pre-t before I knew I was trans. Basically, if I was a cis gendered female, I'd probably be pissed, but instead I'm about as happy with it as I can be considering where I'm at in my transition. A-cup chest, extremely deep voice, large hands, broad shoulders. My most feminine feature is my butt, and I got that 100% from my father. He's got a bubble butt and my moms is flat as a pancake. Maybe you just got lucky. That's how I see my situation. My mom was flat chested before she got a boob job, my grandma has a very deep voice (mine is naturally deeper tho, she's been smoking cigarettes for 50+ years, and my great grandmother was an Olympic athlete. All luck and genetics here.

I think there is a lot of variation between people who are born with female bodies, and vice versa, but I don't really think of my body as female at this point either. I feel like a guy that just has some physical differences that I'm going to address in the future.

Quote from: KamTheMan on August 21, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
I wonder about this myself sometimes. I pass 100%, even pre-t before I knew I was trans. Basically, if I was a cis gendered female, I'd probably be pissed, but instead I'm about as happy with it as I can be considering where I'm at in my transition. A-cup chest, extremely deep voice, large hands, broad shoulders. My most feminine feature is my butt, and I got that 100% from my father. He's got a bubble butt and my moms is flat as a pancake. Maybe you just got lucky. That's how I see my situation. My mom was flat chested before she got a boob job, my grandma has a very deep voice (mine is naturally deeper tho, she's been smoking cigarettes for 50+ years, and my great grandmother was an Olympic athlete. All luck and genetics here.

Haha same I must have good jeans although I have somewhat of a butt most girls think my butt is cute haha. I don't have a big chest either.

Quote from: birkin on August 21, 2014, 05:59:09 PM
I think there is a lot of variation between people who are born with female bodies, and vice versa, but I don't really think of my body as female at this point either. I feel like a guy that just has some physical differences that I'm going to address in the future.

Exactly.

See yourself however you want to.  I think that would be fine. 

I can't make a judgement on how my body looks because it's all so out of whack with what my brain knows should be there. I can't look at myself and think it's female though, that word just doesn't correspond with something belonging to me anymore.   It's wrong, it's not male, but I can't make myself think it's female.

I see my body as androgynous definitely, I'm way too hairy and I have a baby Adam's apple that shows up, thick eyebrows, a masculine face, somewhat defined muscles, etc.. I don't think I'd ever be able to associate my body with the word "female" or anything like that. Even before I knew the definition of transgender and did my research I didn't see my body as exactly female, I just saw it as.. my body. As a really odd body too. I'm not sure if I have a hormonal imbalance and I was thinking about going to my doctor and measuring my T/Estrogen levels to confirm that. Though I'm a little hesitant because I wouldn't want to be forced to take medication to regulate my levels had they been irregular for a person of my current sex.

This is an excellent question because a lot of us who feel like this are pushed away by some trans people who are so set in their ways. I've always been like this. Because I'm overweight and built like my dad, I don't easily look female (and have never really associated myself with female, though I've had internal strife about this). I've always been hairy and felt alienated between both genders. I've always seen myself as more androgynous or "genderqueer" or whatever and that hasn't really changed. You are the only person who controls your body. If you see yourself a certain way, that's how you see yourself.

Quote from: JourneyFromConfusion on August 22, 2014, 12:58:14 PM
This is an excellent question because a lot of us who feel like this are pushed away by some trans people who are so set in their ways. I've always been like this. Because I'm overweight and built like my dad, I don't easily look female (and have never really associated myself with female, though I've had internal strife about this). I've always been hairy and felt alienated between both genders. I've always seen myself as more androgynous or "genderqueer" or whatever and that hasn't really changed. You are the only person who controls your body. If you see yourself a certain way, that's how you see yourself.

Well no I feel a 100% man. I don't know if you really got what I was saying I don't consider my body female because I am built and alittle more muscular. I'm not gender queer or androdidous. I just look at my body as Ambiguous.

Quote from: Maleth on August 22, 2014, 08:39:29 AM
I see my body as androgynous definitely, I'm way too hairy and I have a baby Adam's apple that shows up, thick eyebrows, a masculine face, somewhat defined muscles, etc.. I don't think I'd ever be able to associate my body with the word "female" or anything like that. Even before I knew the definition of transgender and did my research I didn't see my body as exactly female, I just saw it as.. my body. As a really odd body too. I'm not sure if I have a hormonal imbalance and I was thinking about going to my doctor and measuring my T/Estrogen levels to confirm that. Though I'm a little hesitant because I wouldn't want to be forced to take medication to regulate my levels had they been irregular for a person of my current sex.

Right I feel you.

From childhood through now I've felt this way. I think this is a result of being biologically-female as something that doesn't resonate with who I am. Also I don't hate my body, which is probably why I view it as ambiguous. I don't like my physical female parts/characteristics, but as earlier stated I don't hate my body.   

I see my body in between male and female.
I'm really skinny. When I use to wear female clothes I was always size 1 and 0. Never had big thighs, I have somewhat of a butt as well but the ladies like it My friends say my body is somewhat androgynous.
Which is cool. Because it pass and that's all that matters.

Quote from: AquaWhatever on August 23, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
I see my body in between male and female.
I'm really skinny. When I use to wear female clothes I was always size 1 and 0. Never had big thighs, I have somewhat of a butt as well but the ladies like it My friends say my body is somewhat androgynous.
Which is cool. Because it pass and that's all that matters.

Right, lol girls like to grab my butt haha, I heard girls don't like flat butts on guys so I am glad I have somewhat of a butt.

My body is somewhere in between male and female (I'm frozen in puberty) and even my voice reflects that. I noticed I don't have hips that stand out too much and I think, with some cardio exercise and weight training when I get on T, it can get even less noticeable while I bulk up my arms. I really don't see much of a female in my face and my large hands.

Quote from: Marcellow on August 23, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
My body is somewhere in between male and female (I'm frozen in puberty) and even my voice reflects that. I noticed I don't have hips that stand out too much and I think, with some cardio exercise and weight training when I get on T, it can get even less noticeable while I bulk up my arms. I really don't see much of a female in my face and my large hands.

Same haha.

Quote from: birkin on August 21, 2014, 05:59:09 PM
I think there is a lot of variation between people who are born with female bodies, and vice versa, but I don't really think of my body as female at this point either. I feel like a guy that just has some physical differences that I'm going to address in the future.

ditto

Of course, any way you see yourself is okay! Especially if you have a healthy image of yourself. It sounds like your work outs have been a huge thing in  your self esteem which is an important thing! In a few years you may be the envy of quite a few young cis men out there.

--Jay

Quote from: Brandon on August 21, 2014, 05:20:01 PM
I only asked because thats what I consider mine. I was always built up alittle more than females. My shoulders are not very narrow at all, My arms have got even more veiny I mean I could have my arm in a certain position and there everywhere started to appear more like my dads. I lift alot of weights and I gain muscle really quickly my muscles are bigger than before and especially noticable in tighter shirts . I don't have have that hour glassy figure that some guys struggle with here, My adams apple is somewhat prominent. Also that horrible time that lot of us hate for me is only 3 days and it used to be 5 and I am hairy specially the legs. This topic occured to me when my cuz had mentioned that my body is more of ambiguous because of how I am built. And even said if she seen me on the street she wouldn't be able to know my curremt situation as a trans boy. I feel like I could have a hormonal imbalence though.

I understand how you feel. For me, I see what I want to see and ignore what I don't want to see. I'm build very broad on top and since I'm short you can't even tell I have hips. My legs are muscular yet I've got a tummy that needs some work. When I look in the mirror I see a boyish face with gray hairs starting to poke out from the top of my head. lol My job is stressful. lol