Hi girls

I'm trying to get my voice down a little. My voice is about 300hz-310hz, which is almost child range. I think I kinda strain my voice, because everytime I talk I feel my voice box moving up a bit, like 1cm or so. I just wanted to ask, what do you think would be my natural voice if I didn't strain it or moved my box up? Because I don't want to be deluded to think I have a natural female voice if I don't. Maybe my voice would be around 200hz, but I have no idea? I mean, like if I have this voice I obviously don't have a deep man's voice, but I question to what degree it'd be female. What do you think? Could this be the reason why I think I make weird sounds when I laugh thinking it could be male sounding when it is just lower in pitch and more natural?

Thanks girls

Just one way to find out - try your voice and record it, listen to it or if you want share it with us. I think if you are th this crazy 300 Hz range, you almost certainly will not drop much below 200 Hz if you drop your voice. Your voice box still may move up, this has more to do with resonance I think than with pitch

Quote from: anjaq on August 15, 2014, 05:51:11 PM
Just one way to find out - try your voice and record it, listen to it or if you want share it with us. I think if you are th this crazy 300 Hz range, you almost certainly will not drop much below 200 Hz if you drop your voice. Your voice box still may move up, this has more to do with resonance I think than with pitch

Thank you, I will share I dunno, I know it's crazy hahaha, I don't strain consciously, and I can go higher than that when I sing, it's just the way I do it subconsciously. But now I'm trying to ease up my voice to get more projection and a louder pitch.

Since I am nearly 18, to where should I drop it? I think below 200hz may make me look a bit old, but IDK.

Well I guess 200-220 would be good, maybe 240 if you really want to be a bit squeaky - I would estimate this to be rather normal for late teen girls in the US at least. But again - maybe do some recordings, compare them to recordings or youtube videos of others that you find have good and appropriately pitched voices. But the best measure would probably be to do what feels comfortable and does not strain at all.
I could probably also go that high and higher with singing. My therapist analyzed the highest note I can sing in the above 800 Hz range. But that is all quite a strain. Have you ever tried to go low - go reeeealy low, as low as you can go without needing vocal fry. Speaking and/or just making a tone. You can analyze that in spectro-gram or in praat and see where it goes. it is a good measure of how your voice box works - the low end pitch says more about the physiology of the voice than the average pitch or the highest note reachable. With me the lowest tone is at 85 Hz, the lowest speaking range is at 110 Hz average. _I hate those but I recorded them for analysis' sake

Thanks I don't think I could go as low speaking,  and I don't really know what is vocal fry!!! I have done that one time and ended up sounding like an old lady so idk. But it sounds really fake when I try to make a deep voice, I sound like a little girl trying to seem older.

When I can, I will post the recordings

Just try to relax as much as you can when speaking. Maybe deliberately. Let air flow through your mouth and then slowly and from a relaxed state let the vocal folds swing a bit with it - but always relaxed. Maybe do lip fluttering ("a helicopter sound") and then do this, it helps relaxing. Do not push the voice down but also not up. And then see what your natural pitch is. The goal is mainly to have a relaxed voice

Yes, I know I am doing therapy exercises to help relax my voice, I already have one recording but soundcloud doesn't let me upload!

Then use vocaroo - The main focus of my voice rehab was to get my voice relaxed as I was speaking way too forced and getting throat pain from it

http://vocaroo.com/i/s13WqRPM7erJ I think this is one of the lowest tones I can speak, it's probably not the lowest I can go in tune, but speaking, probably yeah. I have no idea what this means in terms of vocal range.

Its roughly 240 Hz average in the steady parts. That is a rather good pitch and IMO in a range that is on the top side of the female average, I would say,
but honestly you sound like you really are trying to speak low even though your natural voice is higher, so I gues I would not try to force it down there if you feel like this is forced. I would try to focus on finding a pitch at which you neither force it down or up.

The recording was quite awful by the way - dont speak so close to the mic and rather do a longer reading or a newspaper or the rainbow passage wihtout so many "eeeh"s - it makes it easier to see if the voice sounds natural or forced.

Quote from: anjaq on August 16, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
Its roughly 240 Hz average in the steady parts. That is a rather good pitch and IMO in a range that is on the top side of the female average, I would say,
but honestly you sound like you really are trying to speak low even though your natural voice is higher, so I gues I would not try to force it down there if you feel like this is forced. I would try to focus on finding a pitch at which you neither force it down or up.

The recording was quite awful by the way - dont speak so close to the mic and rather do a longer reading or a newspaper or the rainbow passage wihtout so many "eeeh"s - it makes it easier to see if the voice sounds natural or forced.

LOL, 240 Hz? It sounds so low in my head. I guess I'm just paranoid. I thought it was super manly. My head must distort things for me, IDK. I will keep updating and posting more records for you to see Oh, and I'm sorry about the quality, it was actually recorded on my phone!

The resonance was odd. Maybe it was the phone, maybe it was because you forced it so much. So indeed it had less feminine qualities as one would expect at that pitch range - maybe you used vocal fry? It is hard to say from this quality recording

Quote from: anjaq on August 16, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
The resonance was odd. Maybe it was the phone, maybe it was because you forced it so much. So indeed it had less feminine qualities as one would expect at that pitch range - maybe you used vocal fry? It is hard to say from this quality recording

It was definitely odd sounding. Again it was kinda forced, I wouldn't be able to speak naturally at that range, and I have no idea if I did vocal fry because I dunno what it is. But I guess as I lower my voice, everything else will  just work itself and I'll sound more natural. Attempting to make your voice sound some way always ends bad.

EDIT: I definitely used vocal fry now that I see what it is, so uh yes :O

More recordings:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JmLlc3x8r4
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1BSNDZkosPN
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0x1cq2GXeJZ
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1WDsLAghsqe

These are probably the lowest pitch ever I can go maybe. At least talking. I'm probably using the wrong resonance and vocal fry, and it possibly sounds male or androgynous. I dunno what pitch this is.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0WN4oTsUcRH This is my sneeze. I don't know how it sounds, but it's pretty loud. I always sneeze explosively, but I'm more concerned about pitch. The resonance is probably weird again because it was recorded on my phone. thankiess>!

I just analyzed my sneeze on Praat, it is 243 Hz in Pitch! Does this reveal my true voice pitch??

I just went the lowest I could go, with my voice box in the lowest possible position, in tone making sound, similar to "uuu", I recorded and analyzed this on Praat (oh, btw apparently it cannot analyze my recordings on my phone due to the file type!) and the pitch I got is 129.2 Hz, I have no idea what this means in terms of my range. I can't at all speak there, though. In another my lowest note hit 166 Hz, but I think this may not be accurate. I don't know.

I have been recording A, E, I and I tried to stop my voice box from moving once it reached my most relaxed state in my throat. I got 155Hz (although I slipped lower in this dunno why, so this one is kinda tricky), about 165, and 180 on both. So it seems my relaxed speaking voice would also be around these values which would make my voice kinda androygnuous or maybe deep for a woman. But I'm relieved to know I most likely don't have a deep man's voice. Still if my voice is really around these values, that means I probably strain a lot and should get it down to 200-240 range. What do you think? Can you analyze the recordings I posted please? Thank youuu

LOL, did it another time. This is so tricky ahaha. At my most relaxed state doing an "A" I got 206 Hz. Another 172 Hz. Lolol. I'm so confused. So my voice is most likely in the 160-200, somewhere between.

EDIT: Okay those 160-180Hz are probably my low tones when speaking. I relaxed my throat almost completely (it still moves up very slightly, like 2mm) and I got 205Hz. So I guess my most relaxed voice is probably around that frequency. And praat is weird when recording non-monotone sounds D: It gets the average pitch.

Okay, I just analyzed with Praat after yawning and making an effort to relax, my voice box didn't move one bit, and the frequency I got was 181 Hz, I didn't strain or use vocal fry like in all others. Maybe this is my low-end of my speaking voice, or maybe it's really my average speaking voice. It's in the female range but it's quite low, I think I'll aim for 220-240.