if u go for vocal surgery later i want back my male voice is there any way to regain male voice if i want it in future

Personally I would figure out what I really wanted before doing the surgery at all. You sound very unsure of yourself at this point and the surgery is expensive. Any surgery comes with risk and you should be prepared to live with it and not switch back and forth. Just my opinion though.

Depends on the procedure. For the older less successful procedures like "CTA" it is possible- but I would not recommend this procedure at all. For the newer successful procedures like vocal fold shortening at Yeson, no there is no way. It is a permanent shortening of the vocal cords & it is not possible to re-lengthen them.

You could always talk with more male inflection, word choice, and drop your resonance... which may work. But, the voice will be permanently in a higher range and unable to hit the low bass notes that most guys can hit.

Someone I know online managed to rip apart the suture done in VFS and it resulted in a very deep male voice, deeper than the original one. It is not reommended though. The parts that were sutured together will not function properly, the voice would be broken.
Why would anyone do such a thing and desire to speak like a guy again later. if this is such uncertainty, I would first do voice training as a more temporary solution.

Quote from: anjaq on May 08, 2014, 05:37:15 PM
Someone I know online managed to rip apart the suture done in VFS and it resulted in a very deep male voice, deeper than the original one. It is not reommended though. The parts that were sutured together will not function properly, the voice would be broken.
Why would anyone do such a thing and desire to speak like a guy again later. if this is such uncertainty, I would first do voice training as a more temporary solution.

That's really interesting. I didn't realise it was possible to split the vocal cords apart. Did they do it by accident? Maybe speaking too soon? I thought Dr Kim really sutured everything up very securely with permanent sutures. I'm having VFS at Yeson next month so now of course this is one more thing to worry about.   

I posted a thread on it somewhere. The reason was that she yelled loudly within the first 6 weeks or even 4 weeks. I think she also smoked throughout the whole deal and talked quite a bit after the first 2 weeks. She did have her sutures done in Germany, not in Seoul though. the basic technique is the same though, so I guess the risk may be there as well with Dr Kim. So it is really one more reason to really stay quiet and give everything time to heal for some weeks.

Quote from: anjaq on May 10, 2014, 03:19:34 PM
I posted a thread on it somewhere. The reason was that she yelled loudly within the first 6 weeks or even 4 weeks. I think she also smoked throughout the whole deal and talked quite a bit after the first 2 weeks. She did have her sutures done in Germany, not in Seoul though. the basic technique is the same though, so I guess the risk may be there as well with Dr Kim. So it is really one more reason to really stay quiet and give everything time to heal for some weeks.

Definitely no plans to yell in the first 6 weeks! Actually I wonder if that's one of the reasons Dr Kim uses permanent sutures? I think
absorbable ones loose most of their strength by week 4.

I really don't understand why you would want to regain a deep male voice after having vocal surgery if it is for the purpose of transitioning , it just seems counter intuitive.

ah well, some people look for phalloplasty after doing vaginoplasty GRS.

Quote from: anjaq on May 12, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
ah well, some people look for phalloplasty after doing vaginoplasty GRS.

is it because they had regrets or what is it that drives them to do that. seems like it is going backwards.

many of the people i still know from the time i transitioned 15 years ago have stopped transition and reversed to a degree. Luckily for them, none of them was actually having GRS, though some were as close to do it as 2-3 weeks before cancelling. Close call. I am cauteous - for me it was the best thing I ever did, all of it (except maybe the BA), but for others it is not the right thing and it is hard to realize this, to admit it and to actually act upon it. So this sort of thing - thinking about the reversibility of a surgery is something that to me sounds the alarm and lets me suggest to keep fingers off from that step for now.

Yah, you have to make sure of yourself before doin anything, or else you will regret it later, and some surgeries cant go back.

I have thought about having vocal surgery but won't because it would change my singing voice.

Well , I think seveal of the girls here with VFS are singing, some even in a choir or on stage. I think that is no exclusion.

Quote from: anjaq on May 17, 2014, 11:56:07 AM
Well , I think seveal of the girls here with VFS are singing, some even in a choir or on stage. I think that is no exclusion.

my voice is already feminine so there is no need for surgery. I never had a deep voice.

Yes, thats good luck then. I know many had luck. Some have voices already in the gender neutral range. others are like me and are at the low end of the male range... bad luck I guess

Yeson VFS is actually reversible, that's what Jessie and Dr. Kim replied me. This is actually the reason why he uses suture instead of laser like Dr. Haben!

HOWEVER, your voice quality will not be as good as your original voice as the tissues of the split portion are replaced by scar tissue which is not as elastic.

Oh, so he does know about Dr Haben and the others?

Would laser then not be preferrable if it is a more permanent result? As I understand it though - in all cases - Yeson or others - to reverse the surgery you would have to carefully cut open the parts that have been fused together either by laser or by the sutures. this means another surgery that is as complicated as the first one and then obviously there is scar tissue, which probably gives a bit of a rough tone to the voice - if you are changing to present male, I guess it does not matter as much for many