anja, this is without any modification other than talking in the range that is comfortable and doesn't hurt. If I try to talk the way I used too, it is really strained and hurts in a very short time. Though I don't even have to think about it now. Dr. Kim wanted me to wait until the end of this month to sing and shout, so I wonder if the same holds true to the voice exercises they gave me. I have an email in to Jessie at Yeson and am waiting for a reply.