You cant upload pics straight from a phone here can you? Its been a while since i used a forum, sorry!

Quote from: j612 on September 12, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
You cant upload pics straight from a phone here can you? Its been a while since i used a forum, sorry!

No you upload to a site like shutterbug, imgur, etc. Then you provide the link. THe forum doesn't allow for direct upload (except for your avatar, which it allows after a certain number of posts.)

--Jay

these are all taken without the rod and as you can see its definitely got a lot of rigidity to it, the rod doesnt even make too much different to be honest to look at like this. Also, the "pleasure slide" i cant imagine lining up with anyones bits to provide any use, i think thats definitely a gimmick! these pictures were taken after i cut about half an inch off around the top as well. hope this is useful. i do have a tumblr where i mentioned ive bought one but i didnt fancy putting too much detail on there where people in real life might see, so if anyone wants me message me about it, i can answer privately on there at jacobsladder1.tumblr.com

I can't imagine having that huge thing in my pants to begin with, and then to try to figure out how to wrangle the shaft down to pack.... does not look fun.  It is also strange that the "pleasure slide" isn't even centered.  Shouldn't it be?

I'm thinking of this as something similar to the gen 1 peecock. Remember when those came out? People had problems and those problems were addressed with the peecock 2. I think this multi use STP has potential, and the guy who makes it knows how our bodies work (in general). I'm going to be patient and wait for improvements. I think in a year or so the production will be better and the product will function better.

People are made more or less symmetrically, so it seems to be a flaw. Perhaps a little lack of care. Yeah looks huge. Nice looking but seems very large.

--Jay

Quote from: Brett on September 12, 2014, 08:20:57 PM
I can't imagine having that huge thing in my pants to begin with, and then to try to figure out how to wrangle the shaft down to pack.... does not look fun.  It is also strange that the "pleasure slide" isn't even centered.  Shouldn't it be?

Yep just too large and thats the smallest size! Also even if it was packable, that amount of silicone or whatever its made off, so close to your stuff all day long, gets veeeeerry uncomfortable and hot haha

It does appear to have potential. Perhaps just not quite ready for prime time.

--Jay

Quote from: Nygeel on September 12, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
I'm thinking of this as something similar to the gen 1 peecock. Remember when those came out? People had problems and those problems were addressed with the peecock 2. I think this multi use STP has potential, and the guy who makes it knows how our bodies work (in general). I'm going to be patient and wait for improvements. I think in a year or so the production will be better and the product will function better.

I forgot to show that this is with the rod as far down and then as far up as it will go. This is probably the most misleading part because i thought it would bend right down so it was flatter to the balls to pack but as you can see, its quite a way off

Quote from: j612 on September 13, 2014, 07:47:12 PM
I forgot to show that this is with the rod as far down and then as far up as it will go. This is probably the most misleading part because i thought it would bend right down so it was flatter to the balls to pack but as you can see, its quite a way off

Holy crap, you are saying that top picture is as flat as it goes to pack?  That's insane.  It's straight out.

Maleth, how the heck can you see this as a viable "daily packer"?  Does yours flatten more than this?

j612, thanks so much for that photo.

What if you put a wire in it?

Take a coat hanger, cut off a piece that's twice the length of the tubing, bend it in half, put rubber stoppers on the ends of the wire, put it inside the packer and bend so it points down better. I think the main issue is that you can't bend it where the shaft and balls join. a bobby pin might fix that.

Quote from: Nygeel on September 13, 2014, 10:28:25 PM
What if you put a wire in it?

Take a coat hanger, cut off a piece that's twice the length of the tubing, bend it in half, put rubber stoppers on the ends of the wire, put it inside the packer and bend so it points down better. I think the main issue is that you can't bend it where the shaft and balls join. a bobby pin might fix that.

Right.  It looks to me like it is the tubing used.  It is stiff until halfway through the shaft.  Then you can click it up or down.  This product cost way too much for what these guys got from it.

Quote from: Brett on September 13, 2014, 11:48:55 PM
Right.  It looks to me like it is the tubing used.  It is stiff until halfway through the shaft.  Then you can click it up or down.  This product cost way too much for what these guys got from it.

I'm not sure about that. It is a product with good detail work, the guy who makes them isn't doing a mass production set up which would cut costs significantly. There are a lot of fine details that need to be worked out in terms of functionality. The tubing used has been used in several other STPs from trans guys (forgot which ones exactly).

You can physically push it down without the rod but its very forced and it doesnt sit naturally cos its then
so top heavy (i'll post pictures of this later)  and the shaft ends up looking so long in your pants and like you have no balls. They need to make one that instead of being bent up and down, needs to be able to go backwards in on itself like a flaccid penis does basically.

You need sometjing ridged to connect the inside of the shaft with the balls.

Ok so here are quite a few pictures showing why i cant pack with it;
Firstly, its disproportionate when you flatten it to pack, like this;



So the bulge you get is odd like this, with zero balls cos theyve now turned in on themselves (and without a harness) it slips further and further down because youre all shaft haha and you eventually end up with the tip going towards your arse and the top of the packer creating a ridge as its getting turned upside down like this, starting from when i place it in my pants to 5 minutes later;

Sorry that you are unhappy with your purchase J612.
Seems like they designed the scrotum to be empty on purpose so that you can empty it out when you pee, but I don't like the design either. I don't think it would work out well this way and it compromises the general shape and feel too much. Thanks for sharing!!!

No problem, ive never put pictures of myself in my pants on the internet before but anything for science haha

I think if the silicone funnel edges were more of a taper that would help make it sit better and cut down on size/weight.

Since this is the longest and most detailed thread I think I'll add my posts to this until I get mine in the mail.


1) I was originally hoping that someone would post a review of just the 2 in 1. Surely someone has bought that. That would give more insight and help compare for folks that really just want to pack and pee and will use something else for play.  Especially since the silicone is totally different. Surely that has some impact on the compressability while in shorts and heck could be more helpful when adjusting for peeing.

Perhaps the owners should do more detailed videos.

2) I hope any future reviewers can give more information on their body type, and strategy used for peeing and whether or not they purchased this for primarily using it at the urinal vs wanting to be able to stand in the toilet stall (which is what I want. I have less interest in the urinal). I would always hate to put up a rating or outright say something isn't good when this is such a personal item. What works for my large body will not likely work for someone significantly smaller, and then how everyone's junk is situated is also important and the size of that (like the flesh around the penis) is important in using an STP. I myself, have quite a bit of flesh and fat down there where someone else may virtually have nothing significant other than their penis. We would use the device differently.

3) Since I haven't found reviews of the 2 in 1 and most of the 4 in 1 reviews are from folks that seem much smaller bodied than myself (as evidenced by folks saying the cup of the pee portion is too big or saying that they are a smaller bodied guy), I figure that the cup may actually work for me.
I'm 5'9" and 250# so, a firm silicone penis doesn't usually look like a boner on me and the STPs with the small spoons just do not work.
I've always wanted to try something with a larger receptacle and would like to see how much any body issue stuff would be reduced if I really had 1 prosthetic that could be used all of the time (but wasn't as exp as RM!!!).

So, I've been scouring their clearance section and today bought the 4 in 1 Rogue 5.5 (I'm chocolate colored and so this wait was much longer than I was happy with!!!). It was $139 today and was made for taking pictures so should have 0 issues.

While, I am not happy that their price keeps changing...I'm glad I'm not spending tooooo much for it. Like my other STP was like 50-60$, is not as large and I wouldn't use it for sex at all. So, 139$ for something that has more functionality if my body type works for it, is okay. But I would not buy it at the $189 price point or the $200 for the 6.5 (which is the size I really wanted but a sale is a sale!).

Once I get it I will give my review. I do have another 3 in one  and 2 simple packers to compare things to.