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Genital dysphoria x10

Started by Matthieu, September 20, 2014, 06:31:27 AM

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Matthieu

I've always been intrigued by the female vagina and when I learned there's actually a medical procedure to transform a penis into a vagina I've been totally enthralled by the idea and would absolutely want this done, regardless of what others think. I'm not gay and am only attracted to females and consider myself fairly masculine, so why would I rather have a vagina as opposed to my original equipment?? 

Does anyone else feel this way??  I have the utmost respect for all humans with any gender or sexual preferences as I feel these assignments and preferences are entirely personal and completely acceptable no matter what they are as they reflect that individuals wants and desires.

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Jo-is-amazing

Believe it or not, there is such a thing as a trans* Lesbian :P
as well as non-binary gender.
so the fact that you're pretty masculine might not mean a thing.
What you need to work out though is where you are, and whether heading down this path is right for you :D
I am the self proclaimed Queen of procrastination
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mrs izzy

As most of us always suggest finding a gender therapist will help you sort out your feelings and in do will set your needed path.

Not easy.
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ErinS

As already mentioned, a gender specialized therapist is a good idea.

Some might be tempted to write it off as just a kink or fetish for you(and for all I know it may very well be) but I've also long thought that kinks, fetishes, and such often exist as a way for some to work through their issues. What exactly this means and where you may need to go from there is something only you and a professional can answer. Sometimes there's things lurking in our psyche we can be shocked to find.
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Taka

and sometimes the body map is just different from the norm.
you might find it interesting to read about body integrity identity disorder.
not saying that's what you have, but it's interesting to read about how the whole body is mapped with expected functions in the brain, and how not finding the expected structures and functions can lead to great distress.

i personally don't have any problems with my vagina (the chest is annoying though), but the lack of a penis really weirds me out at times.
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Jessica Merriman

Um, you cannot just go in and get a reassignment surgery. There is a very intense protocol that has to be followed. If it is just intrigue and nothing else you will never be cleared for surgery.  :)
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Taka

it might also be severe genital dysphoria without any other typical transsexual traits.

in many cases where people have felt extreme dysphoria over a different limb, like an arm or a leg, the only cure for severe depression has been amputation. doctors won't typically amputate a perfectly healthy limb, the persons who suffer from the dysphoria all realize what a crazy thought it is, that they would be happier without the limb, but will still often try to amputate even without a doctor's help. it's extremely rare, but common enough to have a name.

one should not easily dismiss genital dysphoria as a fascination or intrigue, just because that alone doesn't qualify as gender dysphoria. it might be just the body that is wrong, and not the social gender.

i still agree that it's important to talk to a therapist and consider all kinds of possible consequences before getting serious about this, though. complications can be bad, results can be dissatisfying, the dream may be unachievable, reality may not even start to compare with fantasy. is it still worth losing the penis (and wife, possibly), even if you can't get a vagina in its place? things to discuss with a therapist. maybe there is one out there who is open to discuss a less common form of transition.
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Jessica Merriman

Quote from: Matthieu on September 20, 2014, 06:31:27 AM
I've always been intrigued by the female vagina and when I learned there's actually a medical procedure to transform a penis into a vagina I've been totally enthralled by the idea and would absolutely want this done, regardless of what others think.

Quote from: Taka on September 22, 2014, 03:40:46 AM
one should not easily dismiss genital dysphoria as a fascination or intrigue, just because that alone doesn't qualify as gender dysphoria. it might be just the body that is wrong, and not the social gender.

Just using the OPs words Taka, nothing else implied.  :)
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Taka

ah, maybe i reacted to your post because it didn't address the possibility that it isn't just intrigue.
i always feel like both or all possibilities should be considered equally.

but you're right, if it's just intrigue, nothing is likely to happen (without a whole lot of money at least, and a love of taking unnecessary risks).

what worries me is that my impression is that nothing is likely to happen even if it isn't just intrigue.
could be because i'm in a situation where i might have to forfeit my true gender identity if i am to get access to any form of transition in an affordable way, or if i get tired of waiting for any changes to happen in this country.
makes me want to tear apart and burn a whole lot of law books and directives and stuff.

makes me prone to defend the less common. please don't take it as aggression, i don't actually disagree with your post.

edit: gah! i should have written that, shouldn't i? forgetting to validate someone else's input when giving my own differing one, is bound to create misunderstandings. sorry jessica. that was definitely my fault.
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Matthieu

Thank you all for the replies...  But let me expand and further explain my once 'intrigue'.  What was original simple intrigue has slowly and progressively morphed into want/need/desire territory. It's no longer a simple intrigue, it's actually something that's so prevelant and overpowering it's disrupting my every day existence and well being. 

And yes, I do have a gender therapist appointment scheduled since I recognize this is something that absolutely must be addressed, sooner rather than later.

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suzifrommd

Quote from: Matthieu on September 22, 2014, 08:38:16 AM
Thank you all for the replies...  But let me expand and further explain my once 'intrigue'.  What was original simple intrigue has slowly and progressively morphed into want/need/desire territory. It's no longer a simple intrigue, it's actually something that's so prevelant and overpowering it's disrupting my every day existence and well being. 

And yes, I do have a gender therapist appointment scheduled since I recognize this is something that absolutely must be addressed, sooner rather than later.

This is exactly the way it was for me. I was fascinated by how it must feel to have a female bottom, and then unhappy that I'd never know what it felt like. Once I started living as a woman, and I realized I had the necessary RLE, I went for it, even though I realized that if I didn't like it, I could never go back.

I love my new body shape, but it all did start out as a "fascination".
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Taka

address it!

would be really interesting if you somehow got srs without other social or physical transition, and ended up loving it.
but i just have a serious fascination with the queer, which might have to do with myself being rather queer.

i'll be happy as long as you get happy though. you may find other answers than what you're expecting right now, and that might not be bad either.
life is wonderful like that, always has some surprise or other in store for us.
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Matthieu

Quote from: suzifrommd on September 22, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
This is exactly the way it was for me. I was fascinated by how it must feel to have a female bottom, and then unhappy that I'd never know what it felt like. Once I started living as a woman, and I realized I had the necessary RLE, I went for it, even though I realized that if I didn't like it, I could never go back.

I love my new body shape, but it all did start out as a "fascination".

Thank you for responding...so you had a similar fascination with the female bottom and completely followed it through?? So now you're full time living as a female?? This isn't exactly what I envisioned but I suppose if that's what it would take to align my mind with my bottom i might actually consider this since this feeling is that strong. 


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suzifrommd

Quote from: Matthieu on September 23, 2014, 03:36:03 AM
Thank you for responding...so you had a similar fascination with the female bottom and completely followed it through?? So now you're full time living as a female?? This isn't exactly what I envisioned but I suppose if that's what it would take to align my mind with my bottom i might actually consider this since this feeling is that strong.

Well the living as a female part was more than just getting a female bottom. That was sort of a "bonus". I'm much more comfortable in a female presentation, playing female roles, and fitting in as a female.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Taka

it should be possible to go back to living as a man if you find out that life as a woman is not for you. trying it out in order to get your bottom fixed might not be the baddest idea anyone ever got. the possibility exists that you're more trans than you think, but it's never shameful to turn back if you find out you took the wrong path.
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Matthieu

Quote from: Taka on September 23, 2014, 08:30:32 AM
it should be possible to go back to living as a man if you find out that life as a woman is not for you. trying it out in order to get your bottom fixed might not be the baddest idea anyone ever got. the possibility exists that you're more trans than you think, but it's never shameful to turn back if you find out you took the wrong path.

That is a pretty good suggestion and gameplan, although I'm about 99% certain I really do not want to ever live or present as female. But if I find out bottom surgery is something I'll need to make me right i think I would probably go full time woman just to meet the ends. I don't think I would make too much of an attractive woman, however, being 6', 195lbs of pure muscle lol.
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Taka

haha. if you love being mr muscle, then why not?
trying out hrt might give you some revelation, but it might also feel completely wrong.
only you can find out what's right for you. just rest assured that if it's right for you, then it is right. even if most people think you're crazy.

people do all kinds of potentially harmful body modifications, but for some reason, wanting to mess with anything to do with one's sex, is regarded by most as a mental disorder even after it has been stated not to be that. isn't wanting scarification or tattoos equally crazy? those are even worse than changing something that is not visible to anyone other than yourself and a partner.
but people still do it, and they're even allowed to.
makes me wonder every time i think about it.
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Matthieu

I'm going to see what my gender therapist says after a few sessions and then go from there leaving no cards off the table. At this point I'm willing to go with and try anything that will bring me closer to mental and physical homeostasis.
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