I hate makeup! First off I don't need it to pass, maybe to look prettier, but not to pass. Secondly, I hate having to take it off at the end of the day, or to work out. It's so freaking time consuming. I went on a date a couple days ago without makeup, and the guy thought I was extremely cute, he's still texting me. I believe it is more important on working on having naturally flawless skin, this way I'll look ten times greater after FFS! BUT I DON'T NEED MAKEUP! it's to oily, and just feels terrible on your skin. Does anyone else hate makeup?

Nope I love it. I can be someone totally different or slightly different or use minimum and be me. But I love makeup. Have since I was in my early early teens. Sorry Jaz. You're still young and fresh faced but wait until you are around 28 or 29 and you will eventually like too probably. It really can enhance your natural beauty.

Quote from: Jess42 on September 22, 2014, 03:57:24 PM
Nope I love it. I can be someone totally different or slightly different or use minimum and be me. But I love makeup. Have since I was in my early early teens. Sorry Jaz. You're still young and fresh faced but wait until you are around 28 or 29 and you will eventually like too probably. It really can enhance your natural beauty.

Me too.  For me, it makes all the difference between "shaven ape in a dress" and "plausibly cis".  Also, eyeliner and purple sparkly eyeshadow make my eyes look all pretty and I just feel better about myself when I see them like that.

Quote from: Jill F on September 22, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
Me too.  For me, it makes all the difference between "shaven ape in a dress" and "plausibly cis".  Also, eyeliner and purple sparkly eyeshadow make my eyes look all pretty and I just feel better about myself when I see them like that.

I love the smokey eye look. Especially with just a tiny bit of green to accent my eyes and make them pop out. Hazel's kind of dull but with a little green, they accentuate the hazels to more of a green. Not to mention eyeliner and mascara. Holy crap. It can make the difference between night and day. Not to mention all the flaws it can conceal and... Well I ain't even gonna' go there but more or less can make the difference between night and day. Or the darkness and light. But I love, love, love makeup. That is the whole thing about makeup, it just really accentuates the beauty you already have.

Quote from: Jaz650 on September 21, 2014, 11:12:23 PM
Does anyone else hate makeup?

I do.

I think it's a massive annoyance, too expensive and just a complete pain in the ass. I messed around with that crap a long time ago and discovered that it just wasn't for me. I haven't bothered with it ever since.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on September 22, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
I do.

I think it's a massive annoyance, too expensive and just a complete pain in the ass. I messed around with that crap a long time ago and discovered that it just wasn't for me. I haven't bothered with it ever since.

I know plenty of lesbians who don't own any makeup.   Hell, my straight cister and mother don't either.  I, on the other hand, am a proud lipstick lesbian.  OK, I'm bi/pan, but still very much into my hot wife.

It's a necessity for me too.  No makeup, no passing.

I can't wait until I get to a point where makeup isn't necessary, because then I'd be using it not as a disguise, but as something to add a little color and depth to an already-female face.  Makeup, when applied well, can make all the difference between looking good and looking really good.  (Sadly, all too often makeup is badly or inappropriately applied - and I'm raising my own hand and owning up to that mistake.)

But it's expensive, time-consuming, messy, and the point at which it's considered some kind of requirement for being female, rather than being an option, is the point at which it becomes a massive pain in the ass for me.

Quote from: Brenda E on September 22, 2014, 04:31:50 PM
But it's expensive, time-consuming, messy, and the point at which it's considered some kind of requirement for being female, rather than being an option, is the point at which it becomes a massive pain in the ass for me.

I probably go through not even $15 worth of makeup per month these days.  I found what cheap stuff works well on me and it takes me less than 5 minutes to put on now.   It takes me longer to brush out my hair in the morning. 

At first I was spending a lot more money experimenting with stuff that would never have worked with my coloring and ended up looking a bit too goth and not terribly "age appropriate" (LOL).  It used to take me 20 minutes or more to get it right, but now I can do it faster than my wife who has been doing it for 30+ years.

Well this is just me but you can take a cute girl, or even an average looking girl trans or cis, and put a little makeup on her and then she turns into a beauty. Sorry but I love makeup. It's almost like a psychological thing, I'm OK without it but with it, watch out. I guess it is more of a confidence thing. Not just for passing but also confidence.

I kinda like makeup myself    I don't wear a lot of it and don't wear it all the time, the only thing really important to me is that it is applied in a tasteful manner 

I wouldn't say I hate it, but I'm too lazy to put in the work 99% of the time. Now I only wear it for job interviews and other special occasions (unless lip gloss counts, b/c I get *such* terrible chapped lips otherwise).

Thankfully I've been blessed with clear smooth skin and virtually no pores (according to the woman that lasered my face), plus the laser worked really well, so I can get away with not using foundation. Most of the time I go without makeup but sometimes I put on a touch of eyeliner now that I found one that I really like. If my boyfriend and I are going out somewhere (not just grocery shopping or the gas station), I'll maybe add more eyeliner, some under-eye concealer, and lip shimmer, but that's about it.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel on September 22, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
I do.

I think it's a massive annoyance, too expensive and just a complete pain in the ass. I messed around with that crap a long time ago and discovered that it just wasn't for me. I haven't bothered with it ever since.

Do you believe you pass without it? I wore makeup to pass for nine years, only to find out I pass without it. It's all in one's head. I challenge everyone who thinks they need makeup to pass, to go out in your most feminine attire and hair. Update this thread on your experience. I want the guy I marry to know what I look like before the wedding.

Love makeup, but if you can pass and be happy without it more power to ya!

I loooooove makeup! I started wearing it before the poison of puberty hit me. I especially love the smokey/raccoon eyes look.

Why do you have challenge us to do that?  You do look pretty from your avatar pic.  But make up is  personal preference. I'd have to upload a pic of mine for you to be the judge of how I look without make up. I'll be 44 on Friday. No FFS, just HRT, sacrifice, and good genes.

But not everyone is blessed with youthful external beauty my friend.  I'm sure had I transitioned at age 20, instead of age 40 I'd look a lot better, but we do what we can, and mostly what we want.

BTW, most women compliment me on my look and make up. Guys dig me.

Quote from: Jaz650 on September 22, 2014, 09:39:06 PM
Do you believe you pass without it? I wore makeup to pass for nine years, only to find out I pass without it. It's all in one's head. I challenge everyone who thinks they need makeup to pass, to go out in your most feminine attire and hair. Update this thread on your experience. I want the guy I marry to know what I look like before the wedding.

Well, I'm always going to look andro no matter what. So, I don't bother with all of the girly crap.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=157328.0

My pic is on this page. Pay no mind to the filthy mirror.

When I first started using makeup it made my face itch all the time but after trial and error with different brands I have found some that I can wear without the itching, I love to wear it because I can hide my freckles when I want to go out and look pretty.

Quote from: Laura Squirrel link=topic,  =173842.msg1526717#msg1526717 date=1411453540
Well, I'm always going to look andro no matter what. So, I don't bother with all of the girly crap.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=157328.0

My pic is on this page. Pay no mind to the filthy mirror.

You have gorgeous hair, skin is healthy, cute glasses. Are you on HRT?

Quote from: monica93304 on September 23, 2014, 12:36:54 AM
Why do you have challenge us to do that?  You do look pretty from your avatar pic.  But make up is  personal preference. I'd have to upload a pic of mine for you to be the judge of how I look without make up. I'll be 44 on Friday. No FFS, just HRT, sacrifice, and good genes.

But not everyone is blessed with youthful external beauty my friend.  I'm sure had I transitioned at age 20, instead of age 40 I'd look a lot better, but we do what we can, and mostly what we want.

BTW, most women compliment me on my look and make up. Guys dig me.

You look incredible in your avatar pic. If makeup is doing that for you, keep using it!