Greetings

As you know I have been OD'd on E-Cyp.  Not my fault either.  My levels are between 450 and 600 or higher, they are slowly backing me down from there.  These are unsafe levels.

You need to know that I am emotionally not stable, my logic is grossly impaired, and as I result, it is unwise for me to be on forum.

I will return if conditions are healthy to do so.

Evidently the situation is serious.   I can't even tell, I am taking people's word for it.

Please solve the binary/ non binary problem.  It makes my situation worse.

Blessings.

Nails out, hair on, heart wide open

Satinjoy, with love.

Thanks for keeping us updated Hun.

Look after yourself sweetie.  This place isn't going away anytime soon. =)

You've got to help yourself before you can help others.

SJ,
Be safe and yes sometimes it a good thing to take a step back and away.

I do it when I need that mental and emotional break.

Hugs
Izzy

sootball will try to stay until you return.

conflict doesn't seem to run as deep as initially feared.

we'll be happy to see you again whether you do better or worse.
always loving, never uncaring.

Love and healing thoghts to you, Satinjoy. Bring your wonderful self back to us when you are ready. Take care of yourself <3

Wishing you healing..

Its always nicer when you are here..

SJ

Hope you get well soon, I am nwe here but I have read several of your posts and was enlightened from all of them.

Waiting to hear you again with thoughts of joy and victory.

   I spoke with Satinjoy this afternoon and she is doing much better but still has a long way to go. She asked me to extend her heartfelt thank you to all for your prayers,support and thoughtfulness . She will return  as soon as she is able to and misses you all. She also did do a post on the Forest Thread if you would care to read it.   Patty

Sorry I just heard or I would have been here sooner. Get well hun! We support you and look forward to your return!
Huggles
Ally

get well

Thank you for your well wishes.

For the sake of trans, my experience with the OD has been horrific.

I am still off the boards, not very receptive to advice other than "feel better" or "hugs", and under medical care.

I can tell you that anxiety levels on an estrogen overdose can and have been utterly devastating.  And the mind races....

Fortunately, I have done withdrawl before, 30 years ago, on alcohol.  This is a lot like that, only this is worse emotionally, the other is worse physically and with blinding craving.  That I do not have, the craving.

Anyway, given the emotional instability/volatility/triggers, it is wise for me to remain off forum.  Withdrawl can take 2 months.

Yesterday was utter hell dealing with the anxiety.  Way over the top.

So, the takeaway for you my dears, is if you are on injections, please be very, very careful.

Blessings my dears until I feel well enough and stable enough to come back.  I think it will be a long time, and I probably won't be looking at the forum feeling like this, I have to protect job and family before anything else, I focus on that, and my nerves are a mess requiring a lot of sleep. 

You live in my heart, you know.  Regardless of if I am on forum, or off.  You touched me....

Just to debunk the idea that estradiol OD is no big deal.  That is most assuredly not my experience with it, coming down from those levels has been a nightmare.

Nails out, hair down, heart wide open, living free.  Because of you my dears, because of you, I live an authentic life.

Satinjoy..... the fairy sleeps comfortably, the sootball on her pillow, a reminder that she will wake again.

See ya 

sootball gives the fairy pretty sooty eyes while she's sleeping.

talking about overdoses...
there is a reason why pregnant women have troubles controlling emotions.
what should have just been anxiety can turn into full panic. crying over absolutely nothing is not unheard of.
shutting oneself in and refusing to even talk to one's closest family, doing all kinds of illogical things, often some that are harmful to oneself.
not uncommon.

and getting down from there, even quicker the way it happens for natal women, can be just as horrific.
many experience severe depression and anxiety after giving birth. and do thing harmful to themselves or the child.
i didn't, but there was never any guarantee that i wouldn't.

Excellent observations and input Taka!

I hope you get as much rest as you can and feel better soon, Satinjoy. I've been watching this thread and hope you come back when you're feeling well!

I think Taka nailed it.  The endo just tweaked the meds again, we will see what happens now.

I'm back.... just be very careful as far as triggers go please.... there were multiple triggers coinciding with the hormone stuff.  Not very nice to have happen at all.

Love to all here.

Nails out, head up, heart wide open.      And feeling a lot, lot better.

Satinjoy

Quote from: Satinjoy on September 22, 2014, 06:43:32 AM
Greetings

As you know I have been OD'd on E-Cyp.  Not my fault either.  My levels are between 450 and 600 or higher, they are slowly backing me down from there.  These are unsafe levels.

I hope you're OK, Satinjoy. If it helps, according to wikipedia, estradiol levels in natal women can reach 1500 pmol/l during their preovulatory period, so although your levels are higher than the usual range for trans HRT, they're within the normal range women experience as part of their monthly cycle. I think the concerns about high estrogen levels being dangerous date back to a time when ethinyl estradiol was being used for trans HRT. That stuff is dangerous, however, it shouldn't be being used for trans HRT any more. As far as I'm aware, there's little if any evidence that bioidentical estradiol is harmful in the ranges that normally occur in natal women.

Quote from: HughE on September 26, 2014, 11:44:37 AM
I hope you're OK, Satinjoy. If it helps, according to wikipedia, estradiol levels in natal women can reach 1500 pmol/l during their preovulatory period, so although your levels are higher than the usual range for trans HRT, they're within the normal range women experience as part of their monthly cycle. I think the concerns about high estrogen levels being dangerous date back to a time when ethinyl estradiol was being used for trans HRT. That stuff is dangerous, however, it shouldn't be being used for trans HRT any more. As far as I'm aware, there's little if any evidence that bioidentical estradiol is harmful in the ranges that normally occur in natal women.

Yes, gave myself a life threatening case of DVT using ethinyl estradiol some time ago.

There were other mitigating factors here, another perfect storm if you will, put them all together and you have a recipe for trouble.

I am so glad Shantel lived to tell the tale.  Big part of this forest is Shan.

Thanks too Hugh, you just confirmed what the endo said to me.

Blessings.

Satinjoy

it might be worth mentioning that the thing i can't stand about pms, are the mood swings.
i hate it to death, having sudden hormone levels in all the wrong ranges.
the only comfortable time, mentally is from a couple days after bleeding starts, and until levels suddenly raise at ovulation time. half of my post puberty life has been horrible thus far.
physical pains associated with bleeding can get bad, i still haven't figured out why, it isn't consistent. might be stress induced. but i do know that i always get a sense of my digestion working backwards, and other abdominal annoyances that might not be too horrible but still make me feel like i'm about to throw up or have gottwn sudden cramps in my rectum or my intestines have contracted to block any natural activity.
still not as bad as dealing with mood swings during the two weeks long pms time. which can sometimes be longer for me, the time between periods varies from around 30 days to one week more than that.

this means that moon cycle and menstruation cycle will some times coincide in ways that either lessen discomfort, or give me hell for a few days. the worst thing i ever experience is when vleeding starts on the new moon, the days before that are seriously just pure hell. talking to people becomes a real challenge.