Quote from: Hypatia on October 01, 2007, 08:39:54 PM
Estrogen is for breast growth.

Progesterone is for nipple growth. This is how women's nipples develop: a monthly cycle of estrogen alternating with progesterone.

I started using progesterone last month. My nipples are getting bigger now. You can buy progesterone cream over the counter, but make sure it's real progesterone, avoid that fraudulent wild yam stuff which doesn't actually have any.

Posted on: October 01, 2007, 08:35:11 PM

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Quote from: Ell on September 30, 2007, 04:11:50 PMAsian women often have smaller breasts, but jynormus nipples. and they look pretty nice too.

Eat more soy?

yeah about that: someone on this site said if you take soy or other plant estogens, while on HRT, it can somehow shut down your receptors, giving you nothing. anyone else heard about that? it scares the hell out of me.

Whoa! I hope that is not true! I am a vegan, and living without soy would be really really hard!

Quote from: Ell on October 01, 2007, 08:52:32 AM
But anyway, welcome to Susans. Please think about going to the Introductions board here and introducing yourself. Tinkerbell just might give you 10 Karma points! 

Thanks Ell, I took you up on that invite to post an intro

Quote from: ketti on October 01, 2007, 11:34:31 PM
Whoa! I hope that is not true! I am a vegan, and living without soy would be really really hard!

I asked doctors about this and they said a moderate amount of soy in the diet shouldn't block your receptors from the HRT estrogen. So calm your fears and continue being vegan.

Although when I went on HRT, I quit being vegan and went back to lacto-ovo vegetarian... just in case...

Quote from: Hypatia on October 02, 2007, 10:21:52 AM
I asked doctors about this and they said a moderate amount of soy in the diet shouldn't block your receptors from the HRT estrogen. So calm your fears and continue being vegan.

Thank you! I feel much better now (although it is kind of scary not knowing where moderate ends and immoderate starts, i'll have to ask at the next appointment with my doctor)

Quote from: Wing Walker on October 01, 2007, 04:24:18 PM
When I played poker I was never afraid to "open on guts," and so it is with my breasts and nipples:  I never gave the sizes a second thought.

I have had a baseline mammogram and have been fitted for brassieres.  I never felt at all strange.  I removed my top and bra as needed and let the nurses and the salesperson do their work.  I paid them for mammograms and bars, not criticism.  Aside from that, boldness is a wonderful shield.

The first time I went for a bra fitting the woman asked me if I wanted to buy pads for hiding my nipples as they were easy to spot under my bra and top.  I politely declined.  I let them show because it pleases *me.*

I hope that this rambling has something in it that might help you.

I just recently had breast augmentation (and ffs).  One of the things I noticed after my operation was that that while my nipples have become a bit larger, they are not overly so.  But they do seem to be erect much of the time.  I think this is part of my healing as my areole have grown as well.  I guess my skin is stretching to accomodate the increased size of my breasts.  However, my nipples show through all my bras and if I don't wear bulky clothes or some sort of suit jacket my "hi-beams" as my girlfriend at work says are always seen.  And exposing myself like that at work makes me uncomfortable and embarassed.  I don't mind being looked at, but I don't want to be ogled.

I've tried putting gauze or toilet paper in my bra to help hide the little darlin's, but my nipples are very sensitive and anything coarse on my nipples makes me very uncomfortable.

I'll give the nipple pads a try and see if that makes a difference.

-Sandy (bustin' out all over...)

Quote from: KarenLyn on September 30, 2007, 03:43:54 PM
A lot of natal women have small nipples. It is not the "give away" you think.

Karen Lyn

I agree, it is not a give-away.

Posted on: October 02, 2007, 02:32:37 PM

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Quote from: ketti on October 01, 2007, 11:34:31 PM
Whoa! I hope that is not true! I am a vegan, and living without soy would be really really hard!

Actually, the opposite has been said to be true. Soy is believed to increase production of estrogen.

Quote from: melissa90299 on October 02, 2007, 02:35:50 PM

Quote from: ketti on October 01, 2007, 11:34:31 PM
Whoa! I hope that is not true! I am a vegan, and living without soy would be really really hard!

Actually, the opposite has been said to be true. Soy is believed to increase production of estrogen.

Isn't the estrogen produced by soy weaker? If so, could that estrogen bind to the receptors and prevent the stronger drug estrogens from binding?

Quote from: MichelleT on October 03, 2007, 10:05:49 AM

Quote from: melissa90299 on October 02, 2007, 02:35:50 PM

Quote from: ketti on October 01, 2007, 11:34:31 PM
Whoa! I hope that is not true! I am a vegan, and living without soy would be really really hard!

Actually, the opposite has been said to be true. Soy is believed to increase production of estrogen.

Isn't the estrogen produced by soy weaker? If so, could that estrogen bind to the receptors and prevent the stronger drug estrogens from binding?

Yes, the soy is a weaker form of E, but it's one of the more potent forms of the Phyto Es.
According to my book ( Prescription for Nutritional Healing) Phyto Es can bind to the receptors therefore blocking other forms of E to bind. Limited amounts of soy should be OK.
Just for some extra info. Phyto E is an average 20,000 times weaker than regular estrogen. Some are only 15,000 times weaker and some are as much as 50,000 times weaker, but they can compete for the receptors. Phyto Estrogens are found in many kinds of food, so I wouldn't worry to much about eating these foods. It's when you start taking supplements containing phyto E that can block receptors. The supplements are usually the stronger forms of the Phyto-Estrogens.

Quote from: Karla B on October 03, 2007, 11:01:31 AM
Yes, the soy is a weaker form of E, but it's one of the more potent forms of the Phyto Es.
According to my book ( Prescription for Nutritional Healing) Phyto Es can bind to the receptors therefore blocking other forms of E to bind. Limited amounts of soy should be OK.
Just for some extra info. Phyto E is an average 20,000 times weaker than regular estrogen. Some are only 15,000 times weaker and some are as much as 50,000 times weaker, but they can compete for the receptors. Phyto Estrogens are found in many kinds of food, so I wouldn't worry to much about eating these foods. It's when you start taking supplements containing phyto E that can block receptors. The supplements are usually the stronger forms of the Phyto-Estrogens.

Thank you for the great explanation!

Yeah, lay off the soy isoflavone pills, and you should be fine.

<sittin here munchin on my tofu...>

Quote from: tarasita on October 02, 2007, 08:42:32 AM
Thanks Ell, I took you up on that invite to post an intro

You're welcome! (cool avatar, by the way)

why bother with expensive surgery? peoples nipples all vary, natal women dont get surgery to correct 'boy nipples' thier just nipples. thier functional afterall Love yourself for you, and TRUST ME, nobody is going to see your tits and go OMG MAN...
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QuoteI just recently had breast augmentation (and ffs).  One of the things I noticed after my operation was that that while my nipples have become a bit larger, they are not overly so.  But they do seem to be erect much of the time.  I think this is part of my healing as my areole have grown as well.  I guess my skin is stretching to accomodate the increased size of my breasts.  However, my nipples show through all my bras and if I don't wear bulky clothes or some sort of suit jacket my "hi-beams" as my girlfriend at work says are always seen.  And exposing myself like that at work makes me uncomfortable and embarassed.  I don't mind being looked at, but I don't want to be ogled.

I've tried putting gauze or toilet paper in my bra to help hide the little darlin's, but my nipples are very sensitive and anything coarse on my nipples makes me very uncomfortable.

I'll give the nipple pads a try and see if that makes a difference.

-Sandy (bustin' out all over...)

Hi, Sandy, and congrats on the successful surgery!  Enjoy it for all you can!

As I said about nipple pads, I turned them down. 

My nipples have been extremely sensitive to stimulation since I was a tween-ager.  I knew then that my body was wired differently. 

When I began HRT I met with my second ex and she was so freakin' jealous of my nipples being hard that she was ready to kill me!  She told me that hers never hard like mine were.  What can I say?  I lucked-out?

Nipple pads are cut to look like little "flowers" and are disposable.  If it was my decision and i didn't like my nipples showing I'd go to a good lingerie or corset shop and get fitted for a bra with its own padding to allow your nipples room to be as hard as they want and show minimally under your clothes.  That way you won't be putting undue pressure on them.

I suppose that my attitude has something to do with why I don't give a hoot who sees whatever they see.  I did this for me and if someone likes it or doesn't like it, I fully expect to sleep tonight.  And tomorrow night.

Stay well and keep that smile on!

Wing Walker

Vacum devices intended to enlarge your nipples all work quite well, a good starter is to squeeze the nipple very hard (mildly painfull) and pull outward to your own endurance. Hold this position as long as possible, do this several times a day.  It works best with any vacum device though.

Soy is only a problem in large amounts. Not because it shuts down receptors but because it is in fact a form of estrogen called soy lecithin. It has a very similar structure to human estrogens but it is roughly 1000x weaker than human estrogen. Basically it will bond to your receptors and just take up space that could be used by your natural hormones. It usually takes around 6 months for artificial plant based estrogens to get out of your system. Also soy does not increase the production of estrogens. I've been on Medroxyprogesterone for 2 years now and my nipples have been slowly getting larger breast augmentation helped make my areola larger and darker as well.

Good lord...last thing I need is bigger nipples! I have pretty much no areole but my nipples are very long and get quite pokie when cold, they have always been like this with no HRT help at all and my natural breast shape and size is like no other male I saw while growing up...of course I got teased when I was younger but I love them now! I would however like to get a BA someday to balance things out a bit.

Quote from: Michelle G on May 16, 2013, 02:12:07 AM
...they have always been like this with no HRT help at ...

That's pretty amazing, Michelle. Nature treated you well. I wouldn't rush into BA, if I were you. You're doing fine in the boob department, I think. I'd work one whatever other things I felt needed attention and save that for last. While I see the occasional very good BA work, it's a risky thing that, I think often leaves people with disappointing results.

I would love to have larger nipples, as I get a lot of satisfaction from mine during happy time. I keep them fairly perky using a breast pump I've had for years and I'm thinking of trying one of the dedicated devices like the Noogleberry, which has a nipple cup attachment available. I'm a believer in suction methods, but they do take time and self-discipline. I've never tried a snake bite kit, but in my part of the world we need those handy for their intended use.

~ Lyric ~

My breast and nipple growth have been abysmal.  A cup is not cutting it and no nipple growth either. Luckily I always had large areolas, but I just want some actual nipple growth.  My hormones have been recently adjusted upwards so if nothing over the next year then I see a breast augmentation in my future.

I have had magnificent results making my nipples larger; they are currently 1" long when fully erect and ove 1/2" long when not. I started with typical male nipples nothing special. I began by using a product called Supple Nips which is really nothing more that a little suction cup that goes over the nipple an keeps continuous suction on it pulling it out. An no, I do not work for the company that makes them nor do I receive any compensation from anyone for writing this. I simply ran across this thread and though I could help. I think there are other similar products available on the internet but you will need to do the research.

I started with the smallest ones they make and over the course of a couple years outgrew the largest ones they make and my nipples are right at 3/4" wide and 1" long. After I outgrew these I switched to using a breast pump on a regular basis to maintain and this is working really well.

This has not really affected my areola which I would love make larger so I am still investigating. A footnote, I am on estrogen and progesterone but I not believe these are a major contributor because of the timing of my nipple development.

How this helps someone

Wendy