Susan's Place Logo

News:

Please be sure to review The Site terms of service, and rules to live by

Main Menu

How many actually make it?

Started by JLT1, October 05, 2014, 11:01:09 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

kelly_aus

Quote from: Juliett on October 06, 2014, 07:38:33 PM
I read somewhere that the % of people who have genuine regret about pursuing transition is in the single digits. I believe that our overall success rate is quite high.

The common thought is that post-op regret runs a single digit %. Transition regret? I suspect that might be much higher - how many detransition?
  •  

kathyk

I'm not sure how to respond.  So let me just say there's no shame in having to stop.  I know some girls have ended the journey and begun again at a more emotionally stable time.  I'd much rather have our sisters find some peace is a living decision, and not have to make a distresed choice for the ending alternative.  I know this isn't exactly what you asked, but it's what I feel.

As for me ... from the start I've said "I'm never going to stop, or turn back."

K






  •  

Joanna Dark

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 06, 2014, 07:41:33 PM
The common thought is that post-op regret runs a single digit %. Transition regret? I suspect that might be much higher - how many detransition?

Ditto. You can quantify SRS, since they keep track, but no one keeps track, or even can keep track, of hormonal transition and subsequent detranstion. A rudimentary reading of this or any trans forum suggests it is higher than single digits. There are prolly many who start, and stop months later, making excuses or whatever for their good luck to stop--before it's too late. Change is scary. It makes sense many would stop. But who knows?
  •  

Ltl89

One thing to note is that people are often more vocal during the bad times than the good times.  It's easier (or more tempting) to talk about the difficulties and fears of transition than it is to talk about the good stuff.  I can't say I have succesfully transitioned (still have much work to do) or that I don't still have difficulties (I certainly do), but things are getting better as I move forward and am confident that I will be where I want to be one day.  As such, I don't really post as much or feel the need to in the same volume that I once did.  I imagine there are many that are similar in their posting habits.  So, even if people disapear and the negative side is more prevalent, it doesn't have to mean that many don't come out okay on the other side of things.  From what I see, they kind of just go on living there lives happily and that's that.  Can't wait for that myself.
  •  

Brenda E

Quote from: Joanna Dark on October 06, 2014, 08:26:21 AMI think a lot of people, just like they come and go off the forums, comes and go off HRT.

. . .

Maybe I'm wrong but just from being on the forums for a longish time, and the turnover rate has to be 95 percent. Almost no one on the forums now was here when I came. Maybe 1 perecent.

This is probably a pretty good way of getting some insight into the original question.  I've seen it too; aside from a good number of regulars here, there's a huge turnover.  People stick around for a month, maybe a little more, make a few posts and then disappear.

Now, do we consider those kinds of initial investigations and toe-dipping exercises as actually starting transition and then quitting?  For many, just finding out the realities of the process might be enough to either make them realize that they aren't transgender after all, or that they don't want to transition.  Both would be successful outcomes: the goal surely is to find an identity one is comfortable with?

Out of those who commit to transitioning and start taking hormones, and whose end goal is presenting as the opposite to their birth gender, I think the success rate is modest.  Once the decision is made, the closet is left, and there's little room for backtracking (socially, psychologically and medically), the only way to go is forward.
  •  

JLT1

I believe the success rate is less more like 35%.  I have read that close to 30% succeed at suicide.  If half the remaining drop out, it's 35%.  I hope that I am wrong.

A job and money.  That came to me from this topc.  Support is good, passing is good but the job and money seem to outweigh everything else.

I defined a successful transition as one where a person "settles into themselves".  I'll stick with that one.  It is the "place" where I am trying to get.  It is like sitting beside a fire after working all day in the bitter cold, it is sitting in that stuffed chair that fits just perfectly, it is being inside my physical body and being home.  And for me, it is peace. 

I'm there sometimes.  Sometimes, I am not.  For me, I need SRS.  I can't say why but I do.  It's not for everyone but it is for me.  The journey is different for all of us. 

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
  •  

stephaniec

Quote from: JLT1 on October 06, 2014, 08:31:25 PM
I believe the success rate is less more like 35%.  I have read that close to 30% succeed at suicide.  If half the remaining drop out, it's 35%.  I hope that I am wrong.

A job and money.  That came to me from this topc.  Support is good, passing is good but the job and money seem to outweigh everything else.

I defined a successful transition as one where a person "settles into themselves".  I'll stick with that one.  It is the "place" where I am trying to get.  It is like sitting beside a fire after working all day in the bitter cold, it is sitting in that stuffed chair that fits just perfectly, it is being inside my physical body and being home.  And for me, it is peace. 

I'm there sometimes.  Sometimes, I am not.  For me, I need SRS.  I can't say why but I do.  It's not for everyone but it is for me.  The journey is different for all of us. 

Hugs,

Jen
the comfy chair seems about right
  •  

Ataraxia

Somthing that I feel bears mentioning is, there isn't really such a thing as a "failure" when it comes to transition, since it's never too late. Even if someone finds it too difficult or burdensome at one point in their life, that doesn't mean they'll never give it another try. Sometimes people just need time to mature. Sometimes people just go into it thinking it will be easier than it actually is, and after the reality hits them they're more prepared on the second go.

Either way, it's never too late to make yourself happy and improve your life for the better. I think that fact makes it pretty much impossible to talk about a success rate of any sort.
  •  

Violet Bloom

Quote from: riversong on October 06, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
Somthing that I feel bears mentioning is, there isn't really such a thing as a "failure" when it comes to transition, since it's never too late. Even if someone finds it too difficult or burdensome at one point in their life, that doesn't mean they'll never give it another try. Sometimes people just need time to mature. Sometimes people just go into it thinking it will be easier than it actually is, and after the reality hits them they're more prepared on the second go.

Either way, it's never too late to make yourself happy and improve your life for the better. I think that fact makes it pretty much impossible to talk about a success rate of any sort.

  Agreed.  One thing I realized about my own situation is that I hadn't reached the right level of personal growth to start transition earlier than I did (at age 35).  Even if I had concluded earlier that I was trans and needed to go that route I don't think I could have been successful.  It's unfortunate that I wasn't able to sort this out much earlier and had the chance to go through my young adulthood as my gender of choice, but I know it couldn't have turned out any other way.  I think there would have been a point in time where I might actually have been mortified if presented with the idea that I needed to live as a woman.  In the end I reached the right conclusion at the right time for me and I don't fret much over the wasted past.

  •  

jname

Quote from: JLT1 on October 06, 2014, 08:31:25 PM
I believe the success rate is less more like 35%.  I have read that close to 30% succeed at suicide.  If half the remaining drop out, it's 35%.  I hope that I am wrong.

A job and money.  That came to me from this topc.  Support is good, passing is good but the job and money seem to outweigh everything else.

I defined a successful transition as one where a person "settles into themselves".  I'll stick with that one.  It is the "place" where I am trying to get.  It is like sitting beside a fire after working all day in the bitter cold, it is sitting in that stuffed chair that fits just perfectly, it is being inside my physical body and being home.  And for me, it is peace. 

I'm there sometimes.  Sometimes, I am not.  For me, I need SRS.  I can't say why but I do.  It's not for everyone but it is for me.  The journey is different for all of us. 

Hugs,

Jen

Being able to 'settle into oneself' is a lot more than gender. How many cis gendered people can say that? Gender is just one part of what makes us individuals at least from how we choose to present and express ourselves.

Is it just SRS which is getting you down or are there other issues on your mind as well?
  •  

helen2010

A good question but ultimately rhetorical.  Does it mean 'make it to the end of the planned journey', 'make it to a better place' or 'make a difference to your life.'  Folk change, destinations change, priorities change and success measures change.  When embarking on a journey it is the learning, the growth, the experience, the enjoyment, the peace, the self acceptance which  seems to me to be most important.  Rushing to a destination may be risky and in the end sub optimal.  Who knows other than the person who travels whether they have had success or 'made it'. 

Given that this is subjective and that this is a support site where many pass through without major challenges I suspect that the 'success' figure is extremely high.  One thing is clear, those that don't take the first step will not find success or 'make' progress with their lives, and that appears to be a waste of the precious opportunity that a human life offers.

Safe travels

Aisla
  •  

Foxglove

Hi, Everybody!

I've been following this thread without comment so far, but at this point I've decided to throw in my 2c worth.  My remarks aren't directed at any one individual or any one viewpoint, but address this question generally.

My feeling is that when this issue is raised, there's a risk of it becoming a biased question.  That is, we regard a successful transition as a "full transition" that allows the person in question to live happily ever after.

My feeling is that we shouldn't look at it this way.  The goal should be finding a way to live as happily as possible, and it doesn't necessarily imply fully transitioning.  We all know this.  We all know that we're all individuals with different needs, and  we each need to find our own individual path to happiness.

I generally find the whole discussion of "transgender regret" unsatisfactory, mainly because it's usually presented as an all-or-nothing affair: either you totally regret transitioning or you don't regret it in the least.

This is simplistic.  It's a rare person who finds pure and unalloyed happiness after transitioning.  This doesn't imply that they regret having transitioned.  It simply means that you never get everything in life.

Consider this analogy: not long ago my son was considering a job offer.  The job he was working at the time was making him extremely unhappy, so unhappy that he actually collapsed at work one day and had to be taken to the hospital.  Obviously, he needed another job.  The problem was that he couldn't be sure that the offer he was considering would be any better.

Now he did accept the offer and, sad to say, it did actually turn out to be worse.  It was so bad that he eventually expressed regret at having accepted it.  But I pointed out to him that in my view he had made the right decision.  His first job was so bad that he had no choice but to change.  It's just that he couldn't possibly foresee whether the second would be better or worse.  In life there are simply too many variables.  You can't possibly accurately weigh them all.  You make the best decision you can and hope for the best.

And that's what he did.  It's just that he was extremely disappointed with the result.  I think we need to draw a distinction between disappointment and regret.  It can happen that you'll be very disappointed with the consequences of a correct decision.  That's simply the way life is.

This is the case with transitioning: you can be quite clear in your mind that you need to do it and still be disappointed with the results.  Those who have transitioned can discover that they're actually less happy afterwards than before—often for reasons that are entirely outside their control: people are harassing them, they find a lack of acceptance from their families, friends, colleagues, etc.

This doesn't mean that their decision was wrong: it simply means that, as so often happens in life, they're disappointed with factors that they couldn't possibly assess beforehand.

Rather than regard "regret" as an all-or-nothing matter, we should see it as nuanced, perhaps ask ourselves the question, "As regards gender, how satisfied am I currently with my life in general?  On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy am I at present?"  There's always going to be some sort of disappointment, but that doesn't mean that on the whole you won't be satisfied with where you are.

As soon as I came out of the closet and began living full time I started facing difficulties that I'd never had to face before.  The fact is that transwomen have certain problems that ciswomen don't have.  But does that mean that I regret having come out?  Not at all.  I'm much, much happier now than I was before.  Happiness often comes with a price attached.  You simply have to decide whether the price is worth it.  If it's not, then you might not be finding happiness.

And consider: do cispeople never have any regrets or disappointments?  Of course they do.  You can regret the career choice you made.  You can regret having bought the car you did.  You can regret having married the person you did.  Whenever people are making any kind of decision, it's inevitable that there's going to be a certain level of disappointment.

For me, these points are extremely important for two reasons: (1) We need to avoid putting undue pressure on ourselves.  We need to decide what we mean by "making it".  The definition is different for each one of us.

If we could all go back to the moment of our conception and be given a choice, how many of us would choose to be trans female rather than cis female?  Probably none of us.  Which means that none of us is really going to "make it".  None of us is ever going to get where we'd really like to be.  That's what being trans implies: unavoidably there's going to be some unhappiness in your life that cispeople don't have to face.

So we need to be realistic.  We need to seek happiness on our own terms.  Right now, in terms of gender, on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd rate my satisfaction in life at an 8.  Now 8 is pretty good, and it's going to be hard to improve upon.  It may be that for me this is as good as it gets.

So I need to think carefully about imposing on myself the goal of full transition.  I'm an "all-or-nothing person": I recognize that if I can't be cis female, I'm never going to be truly happy in life—and I can't be cis female.  So if I go further with my transition, I might be putting myself through a lot of time, trouble, expense and pain and find out at the end of it I'm no happier than I am now.

We shouldn't put pressure on ourselves by setting goals that won't be conducive to our happiness.  Fully transitioning isn't necessarily "making it".

(2) Second reason: if we posit a full transition as the goal for each and every one of us, we're playing into the hands of our bitterest (and most ignorant and vindictive) of our enemies.  Our enemies have the idea that the goal for every transperson is fully transitioning.  Thus when they see that not all of us do that, or that many of us who do have various regrets and disappointments, in their view it invalidates ->-bleeped-<- altogether.

They love stories about "transgender regret" and "detransitioning".  "X regretted his transition.  Therefore nobody needs to transition."  Or "Y detransitioned.  Therefore nobody needs to transition."

They're wrong because they don't have a correct view of the situation—and we shouldn't contribute to their incorrect view.  We know that not everybody needs to fully transition and that among those who do there will inevitably be some disappointment.  This doesn't prove that nobody needs to transition.

Also, we shouldn't be surprised when somebody detransitions.  Transitioning is a step-by-step process, and it's often hard to know when you've taken enough steps.  That's the position I'm in now: I'm quite pleased with the steps I've taken so far, but would I be better off by taking the next one?  I'm not at all sure.

Often in life there's only one way to be sure: you try it and see how it works out.  If it doesn't work out, then you know you've gone too far and you need to back off.  If certain transpeople find themselves in this position, it should occasion no surprise.  The goal is not necessarily to travel the entire road, but only to travel as far as you need to.  Finding your spot along that road can be difficult, and at the end of the day there may be nothing for it but to put it to test.  Going one step too far doesn't invalidate the steps you've already taken nor the steps that somebody else has taken.

At any rate, those are my views, whatever they're worth, on this question.
  •  

Alaena_okc

i noticed that there is that word that keeps popping up - "Suicide"  - i know i have had that thought many a time, luckily the fear of killing myself was stronger than the emotional pain, and it always seems to happen when money problems occur, when i cant find a lover, and frustration of not being a complete women gets to me...

im sure if we are honest with our selves, we have all had those moments of thought...

unfortunately, some of our sisters and brothers have crossed the line of suicide and succeeded, like the 18 year women in our peer support group. i cried for months for her and tried over and over in my mind as to why she did it - she was one of the few that was very passable and very beautiful, she could of owned the world with her looks...

im sure there are other factors involved that cause us to cross the line - with that said, please oh please take it very seriously like im sure we all do...

i wont mention here name, but there was no sign displayed indicating that she was in trouble, and gave every hope that she would be one of the success stories...

to this day i still dont understand why, i just know i miss her...

sorry to be a downer, but this is important, love you all :)   
XOXO Huggs :)
  •  

JulieBlair

Quote from: Foxglove on October 07, 2014, 07:32:54 AM
It's just that he couldn't possibly foresee whether the second would be better or worse.  In life there are simply too many variables.  You can't possibly accurately weigh them all.  You make the best decision you can and hope for the best.

And that's what he did.  It's just that he was extremely disappointed with the result.  I think we need to draw a distinction between disappointment and regret.  It can happen that you'll be very disappointed with the consequences of a correct decision.  That's simply the way life is.

This is the case with transitioning: you can be quite clear in your mind that you need to do it and still be disappointed with the results.  Those who have transitioned can discover that they're actually less happy afterwards than before—often for reasons that are entirely outside their control: people are harassing them, they find a lack of acceptance from their families, friends, colleagues, etc.

This doesn't mean that their decision was wrong: it simply means that, as so often happens in life, they're disappointed with factors that they couldn't possibly assess beforehand.

Rather than regard "regret" as an all-or-nothing matter, we should see it as nuanced, perhaps ask ourselves the question, "As regards gender, how satisfied am I currently with my life in general?  On a scale of 1 to 10, how happy am I at present?"  There's always going to be some sort of disappointment, but that doesn't mean that on the whole you won't be satisfied with where you are.

As soon as I came out of the closet and began living full time I started facing difficulties that I'd never had to face before.  The fact is that transwomen have certain problems that ciswomen don't have.  But does that mean that I regret having come out?  Not at all.  I'm much, much happier now than I was before.  Happiness often comes with a price attached.  You simply have to decide whether the price is worth it.  If it's not, then you might not be finding happiness.

And consider: do cispeople never have any regrets or disappointments?  Of course they do.  You can regret the career choice you made.  You can regret having bought the car you did.  You can regret having married the person you did.  Whenever people are making any kind of decision, it's inevitable that there's going to be a certain level of disappointment.

For me, these points are extremely important for two reasons: (1) We need to avoid putting undue pressure on ourselves.  We need to decide what we mean by "making it".  The definition is different for each one of us.

If we could all go back to the moment of our conception and be given a choice, how many of us would choose to be trans female rather than cis female?  Probably none of us.  Which means that none of us is really going to "make it".  None of us is ever going to get where we'd really like to be.  That's what being trans implies: unavoidably there's going to be some unhappiness in your life that cispeople don't have to face.

So we need to be realistic.  We need to seek happiness on our own terms.  Right now, in terms of gender, on a scale of 1 to 10, I'd rate my satisfaction in life at an 8.  Now 8 is pretty good, and it's going to be hard to improve upon.  It may be that for me this is as good as it gets.

So I need to think carefully about imposing on myself the goal of full transition.  I'm an "all-or-nothing person": I recognize that if I can't be cis female, I'm never going to be truly happy in life—and I can't be cis female.  So if I go further with my transition, I might be putting myself through a lot of time, trouble, expense and pain and find out at the end of it I'm no happier than I am now.

We shouldn't put pressure on ourselves by setting goals that won't be conducive to our happiness.  Fully transitioning isn't necessarily "making it".

(2) Second reason: if we posit a full transition as the goal for each and every one of us, we're playing into the hands of our bitterest (and most ignorant and vindictive) of our enemies.  Our enemies have the idea that the goal for every transperson is fully transitioning.  Thus when they see that not all of us do that, or that many of us who do have various regrets and disappointments, in their view it invalidates ->-bleeped-<- altogether.

They love stories about "transgender regret" and "detransitioning".  "X regretted his transition.  Therefore nobody needs to transition."  Or "Y detransitioned.  Therefore nobody needs to transition."

They're wrong because they don't have a correct view of the situation—and we shouldn't contribute to their incorrect view.  We know that not everybody needs to fully transition and that among those who do there will inevitably be some disappointment.  This doesn't prove that nobody needs to transition.

Also, we shouldn't be surprised when somebody detransitions.  Transitioning is a step-by-step process, and it's often hard to know when you've taken enough steps.  That's the position I'm in now: I'm quite pleased with the steps I've taken so far, but would I be better off by taking the next one?  I'm not at all sure.

Often in life there's only one way to be sure: you try it and see how it works out.  If it doesn't work out, then you know you've gone too far and you need to back off.  If certain transpeople find themselves in this position, it should occasion no surprise.  The goal is not necessarily to travel the entire road, but only to travel as far as you need to.  Finding your spot along that road can be difficult, and at the end of the day there may be nothing for it but to put it to test.  Going one step too far doesn't invalidate the steps you've already taken nor the steps that somebody else has taken.

An excellent line of reasoning.  To transition into something new is necessarily a process.  And one filled with false starts, anxiety, and second guessing.  I wish I had read Foxglove's post three years ago when I embarked on this journey.  I might have been less anxious, and more accepting.  I have experienced euphoria, despair, acceptance, rejection, desired life, desired death, wanted desperately to connect, to run away, to be prettier, to be more understanding.  Pretty much puberty all over again.  Today my life is in turmoil again, and the reality of what I have done is heavy on me.  I understand why some die here.

While it is true that my "last job" was pushing me to oblivion, living as a woman in a new body has not resolved all my issues and fears.  Most of them haven't really changed either, they just put on a skirt and a cute top.  My perspective has changed, as has my gender identity, it is much more fluid than I imagined it would be.  As I became more feminine, I became increasingly reconciled to the masculine in me as well.  That surprised me, I thought that the dude was dead, turns out he was morphing into something new too.

So has my idea of what it means to be transitioned.  I enjoy the writing of the non-binary authors.  Their perspective seems to me to be healthy.  Change what you must, but it is not necessary to be one thing or another, it is fine to be both and neither.  I think this is true.  For me that means that my body will become that of a woman, my soul will remain both yin and yang, hopefully in harmony, hopefully complete.

It is the completeness of being that defines success for me.  I will probably never be able to completely set aside the "what ifs" but I think I'm leaving the "If only" world behind.  I think that is the definition of "making it" is for this trans baby.

Peace,
Julie
I am my own best friend and my own worst enemy.  :D
Full Time 18 June 2014
Esprit can be found at http://espritconf.com/
  •  

carrie359

Wow,
I think those of us who make it out of all the trans folks out there its low.. many never come out.. and live unhappy lives... its a life sentence if you have this in my opinion.  I have not changed since I was small.. and can't believe I finally gave in to transition.
What a thread.. if I had more time would read every word of it.. not that it is making me feel very good.. kinda depressing!
Anyway since basically if you are still alive you are about 50 percent of the ones who made it to this point.. at least thats what I have read about the suicide rate..

I am going full time end of this month after only being on hormones for about 10 months.  I have had therapy every two weeks sometimes every week.
So far I have never been happier.. sometimes I just fall apart...totally..
I am however losing the most amazing totally gorgeous on inside and outside perfect wife.. she has movie star looks and is unselfish and amazing.. I consider her perfect.
That's what I am giving up to just be a woman.. I wish to heck I could stop  but I can't.
I may never really ever be happy.. I understand that... but I might and only time will tell.  I gave up feeling like a freak as a guy to finally having a body I love.
But the loses are huge... so making it.. yep I will make it for sure.... but it just depends on how you define that.
Wish to hell I could stop.. tried twice.. and made it maybe two days... each time....
I will need therapy for a long time to come.. seriously.. it helps.
I love being me now.. I was kick ass as a dude with my business and I plan to be the same as a woman..
It takes a lot of courage to do what we do... a very small percent of trans people even attempt this......
I am so happy for the young kids though who find out early and get a good start when young..   
Ugh....I am going to shut up now...I don't really like this thread  :)
Carrie
  •  

sad panda

Count me in with the failurezzz..The rate is pretty low if you define success as living like what a cis girl would consider vaguely normal. It does happen though I just can see why it's rare.
  •  

Alaena_okc

im sure that the HRT makes us very emotional and unstable most of the time - i know when i was on my HRT program i would sometimes cry for no reason and then turn around feel as happy as a girl can get...

it is depressing carrie, and yet it is even worse when i was constantly hiding what i am, right now i can almost say im comfortable with who and what i am - but i cant help but feel if i was a complete women, how much better i would feel or is it just another pipe dream and im just fooling myself.

all i know is i have have to try...

Huggs to All...
XOXO Huggs :)
  •  

Shantel

Over my 20 something year of transitioning I de-transitioned and took a two year hiatus and couldn't stand it and returned after modifying my own expectations. Like I have often said before that once you're on HRT you're headed down a steep hill with no brakes and there's no getting off without having a wreck. At post orchie it was a done deal, no turning back! I made it to a place where I'm now quite content and I think "Making It" can best be defined by each individual that reaches that certain plateau wherein lies their comfort zone.
  •  

JLT1

Some mornings, after I get ready for work and am in my car starting to back, out I see myself in the mirror and I cry.  The tears are not tears of sadness but are of joy: I am more me than I have ever been.   My mind is not racing wild, it is calm and controlled.  I am, almost, at peace.  I am almost there but I am more there than I have ever been.
 
Maybe I'll never totally get there or maybe I'll go a step too far, I don't know.  But I do know that I have experienced something truly wonderful and something I never thought I would: I have found me.

Life is far from perfect.  I still have problems and I even get depressed.  But now, I start each day from a far better place than I have ever known.   

To me, this is another definition of success: it does not include gender or surgery or passing or anything else.  It is merely being mind and body matched and because we all are different, I suspect it is different for us all. 

I just want to help everyone get there.  I just want to finish this part of my life's journey correctly.

Hugs,
Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
  •  

LizMarie

A couple comments.

First, I'm not aware of any actual studies on detransitioners, but I've read some comments by some therapists who think the number is around 5% or so.

Second, GRS regret has run below 1% and has been studied ever since WPATH established what some people bemoan as "gatekeeper" requirements. Prior to that, GRS regret was reported to run about 7% from what I've read. (If someone has more complete sourcing and data on these, I would appreciate it.)

Third, suicide attempt rates among transgender people before transition is 41%. The national suicide attempt rate is down around 1.5%. The suicide attempt rate of transgender people after transition is 4.5%. That's a pretty convincing number there, showing the effectiveness of transition overall.

As for myself, 31 months ago I had no idea how I could get to where I am right now, this instant, legally Cara Elizabeth R***** and legally female. I'm out at work, accepted, and even positively supported, I have new friends who have taught me the real meaning of family, and I learned some harsh lessons about how blood is definitely not thicker than water.

Transition is not easy. I suspect the failures come mainly in two categories - those who treated it too simplistically, and those who found too much emotional condemnation externally to bear. There are probably lots of other reasons too but my personal guess is those two reasons are pretty large ones.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
  •