OK so I am bi and was listening to THC on youtube, Turn it Up and it got me thinking. How may MTF that identify as bi have been to a Strip Club just to drink a beer or two?

I was in FT Wayne Indiana one night and went to a strip club just to drink a few drinks. Clearly I wasn't bi that night. Jealous or envious maybe but definitely not bi. Just watching that video and wondering if anyone else experienced something like this. I was tired, drove my butt off and just wanted a couple of drinks. I won't go into details about when I left the club. But just wondering if any other non binary MTFs that identify sexually as bi ever had this experience? The dancers thought I was gay, a couple of other drivers thought I was as pretty as two of the dancers so... That I won't go into. Just curious.

Hey Jess I am also non binary and bisexual but don't find you strange in the least.  In fact you sound like a good person to go out and have fun with.  I don't care for strip clubs tho as the atmosphere is often charged and hungry shall we say?  I only went to one in my life when my buddies were trying to man me up.  I felt terribly unmanly and don't like to objectify women in that manner.  No morality play or judgement intended.  You know being bi is more about the individual attraction than what's between their legs but some folks can definitely get our motors running.  Saying that I don't know that I ever felt not bi just because an individual is smoking hot.  I feel girly with everyone and was a disappointment in the past when women thought my male presentation was more than that.  This kinda sounds like what some folks would say about buying porn to read the articles?  You really intrigue me with your level of confidence but then i don't get called pretty and happy that you do. 

My libido has changed considerably since transition started and it feels better to me but that too has not changed my orientation if even for the hotties that are all around us.

Quote from: Tessa James on October 10, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
Hey Jess I am also non binary and bisexual but don't find you strange in the least.  In fact you sound like a good person to go out and have fun with.  I don't care for strip clubs tho as the atmosphere is often charged and hungry shall we say?  I only went to one in my life when my buddies were trying to man me up.  I felt terribly unmanly and don't like to objectify women in that manner.  No morality play or judgement intended.  You know being bi is more about the individual attraction than what's between their legs but some folks can definitely get our motors running.  Saying that I don't know that I ever felt not bi just because an individual is smoking hot.  I feel girly with everyone and was a disappointment in the past when women thought my male presentation was more than that.  This kinda sounds like what some folks would say about buying porn to read the articles?  You really intrigue me with your level of confidence but then i don't get called pretty and happy that you do. 

My libido has changed considerably since transition started and it feels better to me but that too has not changed my orientation if even for the hotties that are all around us.

That was probably about 10 years ago. I was watching that video and it just brought my mind to that one instance. I was on the point of exhaustion and went from SoCal to Ft Wayne in two days and made three deliveries that day to motorhome dealerships. Well FT Wayne was the last drop that day. I wanted a couple of drinks and the strip club was the only place and I never brought alcohol into the truck unless it was in me. But one tried and tried and then she brought a friend over and started making out. I really don't know what they thought to be honest. I mean they couldn't even strip fully. But on the way back to the truck two drivers yelled at me and talked all kinds of crap. Flattering crap but crap nonetheless. I think they were just a little too drunk and strippers work, it's a job. Beer goggles Tess, that's all. Plus me not buying the strippers game and with long hair. I think they were a little confused and drank way too much.

Two of my favorite people talking about strip club disasters, and I'm reading it at midnight my time no less.  I have been to maybe two or three clubs over the decades, and never, ever, thought there was anything sexy about them.  The women were earning a living, not much more, and most of the girls didn't seem to like being there at all.

When my daughter began dancing at eighteen I got to know some of her friends, if not well, at least enough that they trusted me a little.  A lot of those kids were just damaged and hurt children.  All of them are tougher mentally than I am.  Many were pretty strung out.  I'm glad I have never had to make a living as a sex worker.  I think it is just hard and mostly unpleasant work.  Some of those children Lisa danced with twenty-five years ago are dead.  Some of them I wanted to take into my arms and just hold and keep safe.  A lot of them have grown into very cool women.  Most of them thought I was alternately hot or queer or both.

I'm bisexual most of the time, gender fluid most of the time, but I never have gotten turned on by exotic dancers men or women.  I have a hard time relating to those venues as other than mutually exploitative  On the other hand I still get a little restless at the ballet or maybe oddly, a drag show.  Those men and women are what I imagine when I think of hot. 

Oh yeah, both of you too

Julie

Jess

I thought from the topic that this was going to be a little racy!  However you sound pretty normal.  As a non binary, I have never really enjoyed strip or similar shows.  I always felt a little uncomfortable that the girls were putting themselves through this.  Perhaps a little jealous of their bodies and their flexibility but erotic, not really. 

Aisla

my only encounter with a strip  club many years ago when there were still nude bars off rush street in Chicago was when I was taking a class at a Jesuit University in downtown Chicago at night and after class decided to walk down to Rush street to have a drink. It was a class on the New Testament , so I was carrying a bible. I saw this nude bar and went in and the dancers standing at the door complimented me and said that they really liked the book.

I have never been to a strip club, but I give a mean lap dance. 

Quote from: Jill F on October 13, 2014, 02:41:03 AM
I have never been to a strip club, but I give a mean lap dance. 

Now, this sounds more promising!

Never been to a strip club, but I have driven a truck very long distances and been kinda out of it with tiredness lol. I used to go between Assonet, MA and Newport News, VA and then go out in my car after I got back to VA, and it was like everything was hazy even without adding beer! I am so glad I won't be having to worry about backing up a 53' Trailer again lol

**Edit: Never been to a strip club for the strippers, I have been there to drop friends off for work, and to pick people up from work.

Quote from: Aisla on October 13, 2014, 02:43:49 AM
Now, this sounds more promising!

I agree, care to elaborate?
J

Quote from: Hikari on October 13, 2014, 02:47:04 AM
Never been to a strip club, but I have driven a truck very long distances and been kinda out of it with tiredness lol. I used to go between Assonet, MA and Newport News, VA and then go out in my car after I got back to VA, and it was like everything was hazy even without adding beer! I am so glad I won't be having to worry about backing up a 53' Trailer again lol

**Edit: Never been to a strip club for the strippers, I have been there to drop friends off for work, and to pick people up from work.

Oh yeah. I kind of miss the driving though. With pulling specialized and going into casinos, exposition centers, malls and even a couple of times residential areas. The residential areas were really interesting. I made some people mad because they had to rent a smaller truck and bring their stuff to me in a bigger parking lot. Oh well, my truck my rules and I knew exactly where that truck could go, what crowns I could go over such as RR crossings with belly boxes and so on. That I miss but all the other stuff like picking up at point A at a dock and delivering at point B at a dock just wasn't interesting. Besides I had plenty o time pulling specialized that I could shower every morning wash clothes and take a little more time than normal freight. But I used to run Midwest and the South to the West coast and every now and then the East coast as a favor.

But that night I was tired. Drank a few beers, not even enough to get too tipsy and slept for 15 hours straight.

Julie and Aisla. Yeah I guess it is pretty normal. I mean really guys or girls go to a strip club for what? Just to look basically. Those girls and guys are working and most of the time have no interest in 99.9 percent of the customers. I have on the other hand been to quite a few strip clubs (all about image) with friends and it's always the same old thing, "Oh man, I think she likes me." I always told them that it was their jobs to like them until the money stopped. They acted like their feelings were hurt or I was lying to them.

I definitely agree with Jill. That is way more fun for that special someone.

It is good to know that I am reasonably normal. Although that is a debatable subject. Thanx all.

if i went in, it would probably be for the beer.
never been to such a place though, they aren't too common in norway.

i am probably bi btw. i love women, and it seem i still like men too. but i'm not really sure anymore about that.
or maybe i'm actually pan. being attracted to the personality rather than the sex/gender might explain why it does nothing for me to see a person of either sex or gender undress, even if they do it in a supposedly sexy way.

Taka,

Bi - Pan whatever.  You are most definitely wonderful.  That is the bottom line.  Intelligence matched with compassion and a willingness to be out there for people both on line and in your community.  You are the real deal my friend.  Thank you,

Julie