I always here people hating on ftms or mtfs and it all seems hopeless in the end we will not be taken seriously and we won't be normal and won't have normal lives we will always be transsexuals we will never be cis so what is the point in trying, I feel like we could have all been cis but turned into these people that will have to take hormones for the rest of our lives.I dont get how people aren't depressed about this.

I am takin seriously by all my friends they all see me as 100% dude whether its people I known since the 6th grade people I have just met, I am a damn good looking dude who has sonewhat of a normal life just like everyother guy. I can still talk to girls and still get them and they see me as me because theres really not a feminine bone in me so its easy to be seen as who I want. Sure I will never be a bio male but I am not always gonna be trans once I have transitioned I am and have always been pure man, I will eventually identify as cis I know T will do miracles on me because I am told on a daily baisis that I am fine.

I am not a trans* any more I am female and live a normal life.

It's only what you put into you life is what you will get back


You have to live for yourself over others.

I had to transition to get here.

But everyone's path is there's to walk.

Firstly man I was in the same place a few years ago. I felt the same way on and off from 14-18 depending on my level of depression. I'm now in college, stealth, besides the girl I'm hooking up with. I pretty much live the "cis life" I live with a bunch of guys and I'm normal for the first time ever. If you fight for the good things you can get them. If you want to talk pm me and I'll give you my number.

what do you define as normal though? because to me, i live a normal life. i think a lot of us believe we do. we might have some obstacles to get to that "normal" life but who doesn't? i go to school, i have relationships, friends, i have a career in mind that i want. what can a cis person do that i can't? nothing really. sure, being born the gender i identify as would have been great but it isn't the end of the world. lots of cis gender people also take hormones, can't have kids, etc. honestly it doesn't feel like we are "hopeless" because yes, people hate on us but people also hate on cis gender women, etc. if someone hates me for being me, that's their own problem, not mine.

We have defense mechanisms that keep such things like impending death at bay. Or else we would all be depressed about it. I'm not depressed about it because depression gets nothing done, I'll just sit there thinking about all the failures before I've even started. Nothing worth doing is easy and you have to work for it and taking hormones isn't the only thing this would apply. Life is hard for everyone and you just have to play with the cards you were given.

I've actually had a lot of luck with people taking me seriously. Sure, there are a few people here and there, but most people are pretty good about it (even if a couple do make mistakes once in awhile).
How would one define a normal life? While being trans currently feels significant to me right now due to dysphoria and being in the middle of transitioning, it's actually pretty small compared to the rest of the things in my life. I'm not just trans. I'm a university student, a parent, a boyfriend, a friend, and a future mad scientist. Alright, so maybe my life isn't normal (not just due to being trans), but I do enjoy it.
I didn't turn into anything I wasn't already. I accepted who I really am and I feel much better for it.
I know plenty of people who have to take medication for the rest of their lives. While I wish I made enough of my own testosterone, it's not that big a deal.

I'm not depressed because I am who I am and not who I was.

I'm taken seriously by everyone who matters to me, and that's more than enough for me. Where I expected to lose people, I discovered parts of them I didn't know were there.
I don't need to be cis to be happy, personally. If I can make myself comfortable in my skin, that's all that matters. Maybe we got the short end of the gender stick, and that sucks pretty hard, but I'm finding things to make me happy. There's always something, friend, and we just have to persevere through the crap to get to the good stuff.
After all, what good is the good stuff if we have nothing to compare it to?

Believe it or not there are cis people who have hormone defects and have to take Shots to go through their right puberty. And I see myself a cis guy with a hormone defect. The point of transition is being who you are.
you can't force yourself to be male/female when you know your truly not.
I understand where your coming from because before I came out, I thought the same way. But again I can't force myself to be a girl when I'm really not.
as for being taken serious, like anyone else cis or trans, Some people will take you serious and some won't.
that's just how some idiots are... But it's not our fault nor our problem, and when I came out to my friends and some neighbors they actually respected me even more.

Sometimes I get depressed that I'll never make my own T, but some men my age (and even younger) have low T and need to supplement. I guess the only real difference is the amount. I also think about other people with hormone issues, such as diabetics who need insulin. So when I do get depressed, it's mostly about the whole trans package. For example, I get a lot more depressed about bottom surgery options, and when I add other issues such as not making my own T, the whole mess turns into a great big ball of general trans dysphoria, of which the T is only a small part.

I mostly don't think much about the hormones because the alternative is to NOT inject. For me, that just isn't going to work.

The other stuff--well, I have often felt like a freak, and I do still have issues, but I feel much less that way than I did before I started transition. I actually feel a lot more normal now.

And as for other people . . . I'm not really "out" to people who don't already know about my past, so newcomers take me seriously as a human being, and the old acquaintances . . . take me seriously as a human being. (I'm not counting family because the jury is still out.) It's much better than being called "it" and "that" by absolute strangers.

I would guess it depends on where you are from. I'm from Holland and people are very open minded here. Acceptance has so far never been an issue and people always take me seriously. But I can understand that other parts of the world aren't that easy going, so I understand your point.

But know that hormones and if you go down that route, surgery, are amazing things. They really are transforming. For the outside world you will 'just' be another man. The label trans is something that you carry with you yourself, inside of you. And you decide if that label will bother you or not.

Also, as much as I would have loved to be born in the right body, I must admit the experience and hardships of being trans is shaping me as a person. It isn't easy, but it is an unique experience that toughens me up, and teaches me about what really matters in life. So chin up, dude. You will be taken seriously if you take yourself seriously.

Every diabetic in the world taking insulin is on hormones for life. No different for me, just a different hormone.

Quote from: Dandy Dunker on October 13, 2014, 05:50:57 PM
I always here people hating on ftms or mtfs and it all seems hopeless in the end we will not be taken seriously and we won't be normal and won't have normal lives we will always be transsexuals we will never be cis so what is the point in trying, I feel like we could have all been cis but turned into these people that will have to take hormones for the rest of our lives.I dont get how people aren't depressed about this.

Well, what's the point of the terminally ill taking medication to ease their suffering if we're all "just going to die anyway"?  Or the war veteran with no legs getting prosthetic legs so he can walk again - because, ya know, no one's going to take him seriously as a disabled person and everything.  Does that sound wrong to you?  Well that's because it is.

It's called an improvement in the quality of life. 

As someone else here said, define normal.  Plenty of us live as men and our pasts are never visible unless we choose to disclose them.  Some of us do choose to disclose them and are still accepted for who we are.  The world is going to have haters no matter if you're trans, disabled, hispanic, Jewish, and the list goes on and on.  Why let them win?

people need to eat for their entire life...

most people need hormone supplements in countries where winter gets cold. vitamin d deficiency is a seriously funny cause of severe depression in people who don't get enough sunlight and don't eat enough fish. one pill a day with this hormone can be enough to get happiness back in one's life.

is testosterone all that much different?

No one knows my medical history, so I get taken seriously.  On the rare occasion I'm around people who knew me before all bar one, excluding family, has either taken me seriously or at least treated me with respect and correct pronouns and name.

Yeah once I begin taking hormones I'm going to be on them for the rest of my life, but I've just got a hormone imbalance.  I'm hoping I will be on a type of slow release known as Nebido in the UK, which means I'll be having injections every 10-13 weeks, so it'll barely infringe on my life at all.

Sure, I'll always be trans, but I'll always be male as well. One day I'll pass perfectly and look my age and will be able to control who knows about my transition or not. One day my transition will become a part of my past and won't be something that I'll have to worry about anymore. One day I'll be able to feel content with my body because I'll have medically transitioned. I bother transitioning for that one day. I live for that one day.