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What adhesive would you recommend?

Started by Ethedon, October 06, 2014, 02:03:26 PM

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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Tyler90210 on October 15, 2014, 05:22:53 PM

And as for sex yes I use it without a harness.  It holds well.  Not perfectly.  Sometimes it feels like it's slipping but it's really not.  If I were to wear it for a day and then sleep in and then have sex in the morning it might slip off then.  But I'm sure if I used the tape kit that wouldn't be a problem.  I remember my LJ had a hold like cement.  It was crazy.  I felt like I could have worn that for days with showering and sex and everything.  FYI though my body tends to hold glue VERY well.  Like my skin makeup makes a tighter seal then the average person's.  Hope I helped!



Ok, so to my knowledge, you are the first person on this website who has said that they have an erect RM model that remains adhered during penetrative sex (no harness).  That is pretty huge.  What adhesive do you use?
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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SWNID

The hollister adhesive worked ok for me, but eventually I was the tired to using any and just tucked the tab in my waistband of my underwears
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Ethedon

I'm not familiar with any of LJ's products. How exactly do you use the tape kit? Do they have their "own" adhesive to purchase?
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Tyler90210

Quote from: Brett on October 15, 2014, 07:38:19 PM
Ok, so to my knowledge, you are the first person on this website who has said that they have an erect RM model that remains adhered during penetrative sex (no harness).  That is pretty huge.  What adhesive do you use?

Really I'm the first? Lol I feel special now lol.  No but seriously I use Factor II BT-460.  It holds a lot better then the Hollister adhesive from what I've heard.  And it also seems to adhere better then the RM one too. 

But the hold isn't perfect.  Like I said it sometimes feels like it's slipping and maybe it does a bit but it doesn't come off.  I also enjoy my partners riding me and that might help it stay on idk.  I think some of it has to do with the fact that glue always really sticks to me.  Even band aids seem too hold tighter then for the average person.
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Tyler90210

Quote from: Ethedon on October 15, 2014, 09:04:19 PM
I'm not familiar with any of LJ's products. How exactly do you use the tape kit? Do they have their "own" adhesive to purchase?

You have the option of buying a stand alone tape kit.  It's $75 which IMO is way over priced.  I bought it once as an extra for my LJ before I got the RM and I've since lost it.  :eusa_wall:  :icon_anger: :icon_anger: :icon_cry2:

It came with a few pieces of tape which if I remember correctly is a thin piece of plastic that is similar to that plastic packaging that you need to cut to open.  That's the best way I can explain it.  The pieces of tape are much larger than the tab and you would need to cut it yourself to fit the tab.

They also give you some glue to attach it to the tab.  That glue is permanent and not meat to go on your skin at all.  I don't remember what's in the glue or even if they listed it on the tube.

Personally I feel the price is riduclous.  But it's worth it for what you get. That's one reason why I hope RM comes out with their own.  Hopefully it'll be cheaper and more fairly priced.  Also if it came from them you'd know it work perfectly with their prosthetic.
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Bimmer Guy

Thanks, Tyler!

Quote from: SWNID on October 15, 2014, 08:00:49 PM
The hollister adhesive worked ok for me, but eventually I was the tired to using any and just tucked the tab in my waistband of my underwears



Just to clarify....  you are talking about the product adhering when packing, you are not referring to sex with an erect model, like Tyler.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Aiden In Progress

I've heard good things about BT-460 from Factor II. I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to. I currently use Hollister, but I'm not happy with it. I hate the spray and it doesn't hold well for me.
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Teacherology

Quote from: Tyler90210 on October 16, 2014, 12:05:49 AM
You have the option of buying a stand alone tape kit.  It's $75 which IMO is way over priced.  I bought it once as an extra for my LJ before I got the RM and I've since lost it.  :eusa_wall:  :icon_anger: :icon_anger: :icon_cry2:

It came with a few pieces of tape which if I remember correctly is a thin piece of plastic that is similar to that plastic packaging that you need to cut to open.  That's the best way I can explain it.  The pieces of tape are much larger than the tab and you would need to cut it yourself to fit the tab.

They also give you some glue to attach it to the tab.  That glue is permanent and not meat to go on your skin at all.  I don't remember what's in the glue or even if they listed it on the tube.

Personally I feel the price is riduclous.  But it's worth it for what you get. That's one reason why I hope RM comes out with their own.  Hopefully it'll be cheaper and more fairly priced.  Also if it came from them you'd know it work perfectly with their prosthetic.

That is a pity that you have lost it. They are priced on the high side for the 8 pieces of tape kit you get for 75usdollars(but it does work (I recieved mine yesterday, I ordered on 25 september 2014). I was hoping it would be a high end double sided tape kit so that I did not have to put extra glue on it (For the days I don't want to spend time on glueing or can't because of skin problems). But it wasn't..
It is plastic so you have to put medical adhesive on it.

It also is not blue colored like their videos on the tube. I was a bit worried when I watched those vids. Mine is translucent, one tape is 10 cm by 4 cm. You can cut it to size with scissors. From one tape you can cut roughly 4 pieces (Lolajake sized packers) or 1 RM.  I agree with Tyler that it looks like the plastic packaging you have to cut , but thinner.
The glue that you attach the tape liner with is a quick drying silicone glue, that evaporates and then become harder in texture. The glue is not removeable, it becomes part of your prosthetic.
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Teacherology

Quote from: Aiden In Progress on October 16, 2014, 10:03:14 AM
I've heard good things about BT-460 from Factor II. I haven't tried it yet, but I plan to. I currently use Hollister, but I'm not happy with it. I hate the spray and it doesn't hold well for me.

I also heard good things about the BT-460 adhesive from Factor II. Only the price is setting me off. The adhesive is not that expensive but they only ship with UPS and FEDEX. It will costs me 86usd shipping(UPS or 131usd FEDEX) only to Europe (and then I still have to add the price of the adhesive). And that was the cheapest shipping option they offered...
It may be a lot less expensive for the US guys though  :)
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Ethedon

I may try the factor II. I don't like the fact the LJ adhesive is permanent.
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Tyler90210

Quote from: Ethedon on October 16, 2014, 11:13:20 AM
I may try the factor II. I don't like the fact the LJ adhesive is permanent.

The factor II by itself on your prosthetic or do you mean using the Factor II with the tape kit as the glue that attaches the tape to the prosthetic and also the prosthetic to you?  Because the Factor II might work as the adhesive for tape kit.  I'd imagine that the hold of the tape to the prosthetic wouldn't last as long though. 
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Tyler90210

Quote from: Teacherology on October 16, 2014, 10:14:55 AM
I also heard good things about the BT-460 adhesive from Factor II. Only the price is setting me off. The adhesive is not that expensive but they only ship with UPS and FEDEX. It will costs me 86usd shipping(UPS or 131usd FEDEX) only to Europe (and then I still have to add the price of the adhesive). And that was the cheapest shipping option they offered...
It may be a lot less expensive for the US guys though  :)

I found one other place that sells BT-460 and they're based in the UK.

http://www.technovent.com/solventbasedadhesives.html  :)
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Teacherology

Quote from: Tyler90210 on October 17, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
I found one other place that sells BT-460 and they're based in the UK.

http://www.technovent.com/solventbasedadhesives.html  :)

Thanks! The only thing is that they never replied on my two emails last year (intending to buy BT460). The online webstore requires an email enquiry sent before they ship overseas. I just send them an email again. I also contacted a german site called Cosmesil that sells them and also never got a respond.
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