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New Stylish Flesh Endy STP Review

Started by Noah G., October 11, 2014, 05:21:48 PM

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Noah G.

This is for the new design (which, as I said in Maleth's thread, I can't compare to the previous design). I figured it best to make a stand-alone review of my own rather than crash his thread.

Mine arrived last Friday (3 October) fortunately while I was outside as I had to sign for it and was the only one home -- I figured I would mention that because I haven't seen any mention before, or can't remember any mention before, of people having to sign and wanted to give a heads up to that possibility. It took three weeks and actually spent the longest time in limbo, so to speak: 5 days in the Russian post (13-18 Sept.), 3 days in USPS (1-3 Oct.), so 12 days waiting for it to show up on the USPS site. So...I've had it now a little more than a week.

Anyway, so I sign, accept the mail, bring it in and sort it and immediately go and open the envelope. Sorry, no snazzy video of that. It was all very nicely packaged though: the envelope was a bubble wrapped/cushioned one, everything was wrapped neatly, a business card was slipped into the plastic wrapped around the harness, the Endy was tied securely in a bag with powder -- it was all very well done. I actually opened them in the reverse order that I imagine most people would and unwrapped the harness first to take a good look at that.

The harness is very nicely made and very cleverly designed as well, I think. Here again I can't compare to the previous design, and in fact I can't compare to many designs, but I like this harness. I do actually like that they include support for the testicles and while I confessed that I may need to adjust to them being in an actual pouch (given being used to packing directly against my own body) I found while actually wearing it that that wasn't the case at all: it took me no time whatsoever to get used to wearing the Endy and the harness. The pouch actually has elastic at the top, so the STP/packer is very securely held between the pouch, the straps which further hold the device, and the elastic o-ring. I also like the way the leg straps are attached to the pouch – rather than sewn directly to the pouch itself they're fed through a small loop created at the bottom. Minor detail: I also like the button used on the one strap (not just a plain button), but that may be an odd thing that I would take notice of or think about.

I just wish I had bought a second harness for while the one's in the wash.

Now, the Endy itself. I bought it in swarthy because on my screen it looked perfect and the caramel still looked too close to my Reel Magik packer, which is way too light toned for me. When it arrived it was quite a bit darker than expected but, personally, that's not a big deal for me. I'd much prefer too dark than too light to be honest. The spoon design reminds me a bit of the Peecock but smaller (and closeable), and size-wise the Endy is very similar to the Reel Magik basic packer that I have – I mean very similar. Almost the exact same proportionally except that the RM is longer from the top of the packer to the bottom of the scrotum/testicles; the RM hangs a little lower in that respect, not quite as wide, but otherwise they're pretty evenly matched. The shafts are the same lengths, about the same girth, and while I haven't weighed them to compare exactly in that regard there's no easily noticeable difference in weight to me. Given that I like the size of the RM packer I'm pretty satisfied with the size of the Endy.

A little more on the spoon. It seems to be a solid piece of silicone (as in the spoon and the tube running down the shaft are all one piece) and it's as well done as the rest of the Endy: it's all smooth and uniform, the clasp is nice and solid, and there's no protrusion or anything odd-looking as far as the STP part at the head of the device. I feel like I remember some people mentioning other companies using glue in the past and wanted to note that the spoon and the Endy are sealed together using clear silicone – this was what impressed me, having a little bit of experience with the type of silicone it seems was used, because it's not a thick layer and it's not messy or left feeling undone: it's a nice, neat, thin layer.

Of course, being made of cyberskin opposed to a basic silicone packer the Endy is much softer to the touch and more pliable – a bit more realistic in that respect – compared to the RM Basic. I think it hangs rather nicely from the harness myself. Overall, needless to say, I'm really rather liking the Endy thus far. It's similarly priced to the Peecock but a considerably better made product, or at the least better designed, and it packs much better for me.

That said, I knew I would have a learning curve with the spoon design (being smaller than what I'm used to) and with using a harness with an STP and that's proven true. My first attempt was not a complete failure, but I can't say it was entirely successful either – underestimating how full my bladder was at the time was probably largely to blame, but for now I've gone back to STP-ing 101 until I get a better feel for the device and more confidence using it. Attempts thus far have been more successful, though I haven't yet tried with the harness again. What I think might take the most practice is actually closing the STP discretely after using it...I imagine there's either a trick to it that I haven't figured out or else it's just a matter of practice.

I don't have any pics at this point, but I can take and add some both of the Endy as well as comparing it side-by-side to the RM packer I have. I can probably get those up in the next day or so.
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Remiie

Thanks for the review! I would love to see some pictures of it whenever you get them up :)
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Noah G.

Hey all, I know I promised photos earlier this week, I'm just posting to let everyone know that I haven't forgotten and I'm still planning on sharing those photos. In fact, I already have them taken, cropped, and everything -- the ones I plan on posting are even in their own folder on my computer -- but due to time issues and a number of technical difficulties I just haven't managed to post them. Just yesterday I managed to finally upload them to my computer, I just have to upload them to a host site now...unfortunately one of my technical issues is my internet (it sucks, there's no way around that). Even if I manage to get them all onto the site tonight I won't be able to post them here in this thread but the good news is I'll be dog-sitting for family tomorrow after work and their internet should be better than ours, so I'll be able to share those pics at long last!

To make up for the delay I have an update.

Gaspar and I discussed the difficulties as far as closing the clasp on the model that I have and solutions to that. He already has a new design worked up that he'll be using for new orders and sending out. I got to see it on Skype and it looks to be a much easier design to get closed but still appears to close tightly (which is good: the spoon closes in such a way that any urine left in the spoon doesn't leak back out that way, something that is an issue I feel with the PeeCock I have -- it's uncomfortable and unhygienic having that against yourself and/or your clothes). He'll be updating the pictures on the site at some point to show the new clasp design.

Honestly, especially for the price (which I think you can hardly beat), the clasp I think is the only thing with this Endy that I feel could be improved upon. Which is why, in addition to ordering another harness, I'm going to go ahead and order an Endy with the new clasp design as well. I'll do a further comparison in this thread between the two clasps when it arrives (hopefully in shorter time than it's taking to post these pictures, haha).
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Noah G. on October 18, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
Hey all, I know I promised photos earlier this week, I'm just posting to let everyone know that I haven't forgotten and I'm still planning on sharing those photos. In fact, I already have them taken, cropped, and everything -- the ones I plan on posting are even in their own folder on my computer -- but due to time issues and a number of technical difficulties I just haven't managed to post them. Just yesterday I managed to finally upload them to my computer, I just have to upload them to a host site now...unfortunately one of my technical issues is my internet (it sucks, there's no way around that). Even if I manage to get them all onto the site tonight I won't be able to post them here in this thread but the good news is I'll be dog-sitting for family tomorrow after work and their internet should be better than ours, so I'll be able to share those pics at long last!

To make up for the delay I have an update.

Gaspar and I discussed the difficulties as far as closing the clasp on the model that I have and solutions to that. He already has a new design worked up that he'll be using for new orders and sending out. I got to see it on Skype and it looks to be a much easier design to get closed but still appears to close tightly (which is good: the spoon closes in such a way that any urine left in the spoon doesn't leak back out that way, something that is an issue I feel with the PeeCock I have -- it's uncomfortable and unhygienic having that against yourself and/or your clothes). He'll be updating the pictures on the site at some point to show the new clasp design.

Honestly, especially for the price (which I think you can hardly beat), the clasp I think is the only thing with this Endy that I feel could be improved upon. Which is why, in addition to ordering another harness, I'm going to go ahead and order an Endy with the new clasp design as well. I'll do a further comparison in this thread between the two clasps when it arrives (hopefully in shorter time than it's taking to post these pictures, haha).

Hi, Noah.  Do you know Gaspar's reason for changing the original spoon in the first place?  The original works perfectly, the only thing was that it was a bit thick, so it didn't want to stay folded over and would attempt to slide out from under the button.  I actually was able to work it out to where it wasn't an issue.  I really thought he was just going to make the thick spoon a bit thinner.

Others have had problems with the new clasp too, one person's actually split.  Maybe you should hold off on ordering the new one until others review it/Gaspar has more time with it?  It doesn't seem like there was time for him to test the new product before he started selling it.  He didn't even have pictures of the new one up and was already sending it out when people thought they were ordering the original design.  Just a thought, mate!
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Noah G.

Hey, Brett -- no, I'm not sure his reason for changing the spoon itself as much as he did: he hasn't mentioned anything about that and I haven't asked. I sort of figured maybe it had something to do with a consensus of input he was receiving but that was just a theory on my part because I honestly don't have any actual idea. It's possible he may have wanted to make it more anatomical? Again, just ideas on my part though.

Normally I would probably hold off until there's been other reviews -- usually I look for reviews before deciding to get anything like this -- but having seen the new clasp design and having watched him demonstrate it a bit I feel confident enough in ordering another. The main issue with the clasp seemed to be the width of the loop and the shape and/or length of the "hook" (for lack of a better term), both of which Gaspar seemed to have addressed from what I could see.
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aleon515

I believe Gaspar may be on here and reading the reviews? I seem to recall his early posts to the group.

--Jay
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Bimmer Guy

Quote from: Noah G. on October 18, 2014, 10:03:27 PM
Hey, Brett -- no, I'm not sure his reason for changing the spoon itself as much as he did: he hasn't mentioned anything about that and I haven't asked. I sort of figured maybe it had something to do with a consensus of input he was receiving but that was just a theory on my part because I honestly don't have any actual idea. It's possible he may have wanted to make it more anatomical? Again, just ideas on my part though.

Normally I would probably hold off until there's been other reviews -- usually I look for reviews before deciding to get anything like this -- but having seen the new clasp design and having watched him demonstrate it a bit I feel confident enough in ordering another. The main issue with the clasp seemed to be the width of the loop and the shape and/or length of the "hook" (for lack of a better term), both of which Gaspar seemed to have addressed from what I could see.

Good you got a good look at it.  He is a very ingenious guy, so hopefully this next one will be a winner.  I agree the packer itself is fantastic.  Is it in the mail yet?

I would like to see your pictures, as the pictures another reviewer posted of his swarthy made it seem not very dark.  I actually considered getting that color.  I especially like how the veins look on the swarthy.
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Remiie

My email from Gasper says "You will be sent a new model clasps. Spoon previous, anatomical and comfortable. And, I have developed a new clasp. Clasp easily unbuttoned, buttoned and firmly holds the spoon." So I think I may be receiving the new model you're talking about. It hasn't made it out of Russia just yet but its at the international post office so it should be heading over soon.

When it arrives I'll take some pictures and tell you what I think of it!
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Noah G.

All right, first responses and then I'll post some pictures of the Endy itself (finally got them to upload). Then I'll put up another post with photos comparing the Endy to the RM basic packer I have (because it makes sense to me to break them up for whatever reason -- for the sake of some perceived neatness perhaps).

Jay: Gaspar does read the reviews on here to see what people think about his products and see where he can improve them -- he has told me before that he wants to make people happy and given how quickly he redesigned the clasp he certainly seems genuine in that sentiment. He encourages honesty about any negatives or flaws.

Brett: He really is clever with his designs. It was only Friday that I got to see the new clasp design so nothing is in the mail for me yet but I can let you know when it's on its way. As for the color, I believe I saw the same pics and mine definitely seems darker than his was -- not really sure why, perhaps a fluke, but I'm still not bothered at all by how dark it is and still feel I'd rather too dark than too light (though I admit I still wish I could get one the color that the swarthy looks on my screen: it'd be absolutely perfect).

Remiie: Gaspar informed me that all current orders/new shipments will be receiving the new clasp design so your thinking is correct. If it seems to spend a lot of time "in limbo" (as I call it) after leaving Russia don't stress! As I said in my first post above mine spent longer between countries than it did in either country's postal system. Looking forward to your thoughts when yours arrives!

And now, without further ado...

















Apologies that they're not the greatest -- my only functional camera for this task is my phone.
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Noah G.

Now for the comparison shots...

















Now, I tried to be as comprehensive as I could with these pics but if there's anything anyone wants a clearer shot of feel free to let me know and I'll be happy to oblige.
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Bimmer Guy

Noah,

Great pictures.  Thank you so much.  I hope that you enjoy the new design and I look forward to pictures and hearing about it.  Does the current model feel uncomfortable against you?  The large nub the spoon makes seems like it would keep the STP from settling in against the body the way it should.  It's a lot of extra material too.

Did you drop down to a lighter color on the new one?
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Nygeel

It seems like it sits well. Does the foreskin move?
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Remiie

Wow! That packer looks even more incredible there than I thought it would! I see what you mean about the colour there which gives me a little hope with the one I've ordered. Like what Brett said how does it feel to wear it against you? It does look a little chunky.
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Noah G.

Brett: No problem, and thanks about the pictures, haha, this is my first time doing a review this extensive so I'm glad the care I took as far as getting good pics was well worth the effort. Once I receive the new design I'll add more pics and possibly a video as well (ideally) to better compare the two designs. As for how the folded spoon feels against the body, personally, I notice it initially but in the same way I notice any packer when I first put it on and by the time I finish getting dressed I don't notice the extra material. It's not uncomfortable or bothersome for me and I don't notice any additional pressure resulting from the spoon.

I did decide to go with a lighter color (which would be the caramel) for the new one so we'll see how well that matches, so to speak.

Nygeel: I had to think a little on just how to answer because the skin around the head, being cyberskin, is nice and soft and pliable but the skin doesn't move like, say, a sleeve. If that makes sense? It doesn't move separate of the head and/or shaft I suppose is a better way to word that.

I'm not sure whether he's considered or has ideas on how to make a moveable foreskin but it could be worth contacting him about the possibility. It could well raise the price of the product a bit but, hey, for moveable foreskin I think that's reasonable. If it's worked out perhaps it could be offered as an option or something.

Remiie: Yea, I think for the price the detail and such is really great. Price-wise it's comparable to the PeeCock, but otherwise the only way the two are really comparable is the basic shape of the spoon. Regarding the feel it truly is comfortable to wear. The spoon is silicone so it's firmer than the packer part but it's not hard. The packer portion is very comparable to what I'm already used to at this point as well, so the spoon only adds a little bit more bulkiness for me that I don't really notice.

It's possible that the harness helps with making the spoon less apparent when wearing it -- I haven't tried wearing the Endy without the harness to test that though.
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Nygeel

Honestly, this is the only "uncut" STP I've seen around. I would think a retractable foreskin would make it a lot more fragile.
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Bimmer Guy

Noah, i think you will be pleased with the caramel color. From your picture, it looks as though our skin tone is practically identical. I definitely think that the caramel is the best color of the lot for me. It also has a redish tone to it which somehow makes it look more realistic. As i said in my thread long ago, the blue veins stand out in a not so realistic way due to the light color, however, for some reason I really like them and would miss them if they werent there

Really looking forward to Gaspar's next "creation"! 
Top Surgery: 10/10/13 (Garramone)
Testosterone: 9/9/14
Hysto: 10/1/15
Stage 1 Meta: 3/2/16 (including UL, Vaginectomy, Scrotoplasty), (Crane, CA)
Stage 2 Meta: 11/11/16 Testicular implants, phallus and scrotum repositioning, v-nectomy revision.  Additional: Lipo on sides of chest. (Crane, TX)
Fistula Repair 12/21/17 (UPenn Hospital,unsuccessful)
Fistula Repair 6/7/18 (Nikolavsky, successful)
Revision: 1/11/19 Replacement of eroded testicle,  mons resection, cosmetic work on scrotum (Crane, TX)



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Noah G.

Nygeel: That's a good point about increased fragility. I got to thinking about it more this morning after reading your response (and while not tired, which always helps) and along with that increased fragility another issue with moveable foreskin is the material currently being used for packers/STPs -- pliable as they may (or in some cases, may not) be, they lack the elasticity that I think would make the moveable foreskin really work. At least, as far as I've seen.

It almost seems as though the best material to accomplish a good, realistic or semi-realistic, moveable foreskin would be more like a fabric...I have a Mansculpture ManZip binder and the design is such that the outermost layer of fabric moves smoothly and easily over the layer beneath that is actually doing the binding but, of course, after it's moved it returns to its original position. Something like that seems it would be most ideal, though it doesn't exactly solve the matter of fragility in and of itself. Furthermore, as far as I'm aware of there isn't a fabric that can satisfactorily mimic human skin, which is of course a problem.

Just a little conscious thought/rambling going on there.

Brett: I'm really glad you chimed in about the caramel color. On my screen the picture that came up for swarthy had a sort of red tone to it (ruddy was the best I could think to describe it) and, as I said, I thought it looked perfect -- if the caramel is more like that then I think you're right and I will be pleased with the color. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, and I'm looking forward to it, too!
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Nygeel

I think I might go for the yaromir. It's $82 US vs the endy at $160 US. Same size with the exception of the balls.
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dirkpee

I got the Yaromir and i'm pretty happy with it. I made a review on my tumblr sideblog. I don't know if I can post a link so I'll c/p it here.

Quoteafter my tranzwear stp ripped from a while of normal, almost daily use, i decided to try stylish flesh's yaromir. they're based in russia and make nice uncut stp devices for a pretty reasonable price.
review under cut

shipping/packaging:
it took just under a month from payment to arrival (russia to uk), and considering how absolutely abysmal the russian postage system is, i'd say thats pretty good. just dont panic if it takes a little while to get to you.
the packaging was pretty discreet, but if youre living with people who dont like you ordering internationally, its blatantly from russia.
inside there was a business card for the company and the stp was in a little plastic bag, pre-powdered.
9.5/10
packer/stp:
it looks really good, considering how little i paid for it. the colour is a little too pink for my skin when wet as im horrendously pale, but it looks much closer powdered. its quite squishy.
the balls are pretty hefty. a bit too large for my tastes, and they make the whole packer a bit back-heavy, so if your harness isnt jock style you might have problems. the shaft is nicely detailed and has veins running along it, and the end of the foreskin looks really nice too.
the stp device is harder than the rest of it (including the inner tube), and is kept out of the way with a little hook and loop on the yaromir, and it keeps it out of the way surprisingly well. i cant even feel it. it's going to take a LOT of practice to get it done up and undone quickly.
i got this pretty much straight after i woke up and decided to try it out straight away. i hopped in the shower and just let it all free, and it almost didnt leak. there was a little flow-back near the end, but not only was it the first piss of the day, but i wasnt controlling it either. given my track record with stps that dont cover everything, thats real impressive.
~oooo scary genital talk~
its sort of like a medicine spoon, but covers a larger area, so if you know roughly where your urethra is, place the funnel over it between the labia majora and you're likely gonna be fine.
~oooo scary genital talk over~
10/10
overall:
this is a really really good stp, especially if youre in the market for an uncut one. it might be slow to arrive, and the colouring might be off, but i'd say its totally worth it.
9.8/10

ftm-tan.tumblr.com/post/100309940076 also has pictures.
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KaiBear

Any tips on how to pack with the big spoon Endy and the Stylish Flesh harnesses? I can't figure it out having only evr used the Peecock in the past!
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