She said nothing about who is allowed and made it clear it was a personal opinion. Opinion does not need to be shared by a professional to be valid.
Belief is also personal.


With that, this topic is locked.

I second locking this topic.

Post's about deception in general come very close to violating TOS anyway.

Quote from: onescaredquestion on October 22, 2014, 11:01:45 PM

Quote from: stephaniec on October 20, 2014, 06:34:57 AM
I'm sorry if I offend with this point of view, but for me it's a major ethical consideration. If you can't accept the consequences of transitioning don't. you always have another path you can a take , your birth gender. life can be a bitch.

You offend me more than any trans phobic I've ever come across. I'll leave it at that. If that's what's being ethical, I'd rather be as unethical as I possibly can.
When you've done what I've done and lived my life (never), then proclaim yourself fit to speak for me. Otherwise you just come off like any cultist preacher.

I tried to say that politely, I'm sorry I failed. Your words hurt me.

You may not like what she said, but she's 100% correct. "If you can't accept the consequences of transitioning don't. you always have another path you can a take, your birth gender."

Now let me hurt you some more.

Quote from: onescaredquestion on October 23, 2014, 01:27:12 AM

Quote from: LordKAT on October 23, 2014, 01:16:04 AM
Offense is often taken when it wasn't intended. Remember we all have opinions and often differ in those opinions.

He outright said who is and isn't ALLOWED to transition, and his opinion isn't echoed by any professional as a criteria for transitioning. You can argue it away all you like, but it's offensive, trans-, no, every kind of phobic,and authoritarian. Not to mention disgusting. No offense meant? I don't believe it.

You intentionally misgendered her and that is never acceptable. See you in a week.  When you return, before you consider posting read
Standard Terms and Definitions on Susan's Place, which includes a section on proper pronouns; and the other topics in the
Site Policies and stuff to remember forum.

This thread has walked the line all along but would fall under this stated policy.

Quote from: Susan on October 18, 2009, 02:59:24 AMI will not tolerate anyone posting on this forum about tricking or otherwise intentionally deceiving people into committing acts that with informed consent they would not have participated in. Actions of that nature are highly immoral. Topics of this nature feed the hatred of those who would attack the transgender community. It is used as justification by Murders for the "gay panic" defenses. A violation of this rule will from this moment forth result in a permban, as people who engage in these types of actions are not welcome in this community.

Be very glad we have not enforced it.